Keep an older version of Steam running on Windows 7.

[Noble SAM]

I suggest Steam to keep one version of Steam for Windows 7 too.

I'm not changing to cancer like Windows 10. Its a privacy disaster. I don't want to accept the Windows 10 agreement.

Choices?

[rawWwRrr]

Publicado originalmente por fataleb40:

Publicado originalmente por nullable:

Oh no! Anything but that.

You're free to use Windows 7, and you're free to deal with the consequences of that choice. Namely software and services will be dropping support and you'll be stuck on old versions or without access.

And why Steam do not refund the money? If they refuse the service they have to return the money. They do not.
Scam, loud and clear.

They are not refusing service. You can own games on Steam despite not having the ability to actually run them. Steam is providing the service of your account and maintaining the licenses tied to that account. It's your responsibility to ensure you have a compatible computer for that service, as you have always been.

[HE❌EN]

Publicado originalmente por fataleb40:

Publicado originalmente por nullable:

Oh no! Anything but that.

You're free to use Windows 7, and you're free to deal with the consequences of that choice. Namely software and services will be dropping support and you'll be stuck on old versions or without access.

And why Steam do not refund the money? If they refuse the service they have to return the money. They do not.
Scam, loud and clear.

You have a rather distorted concept of right and wrong.

[realartfo]

Refusing to use Steam's services doesn't make you a scam victim. If you don't want to install a new version of Windows just use steam's proton tool to run older games on Linux (for free no less). Alternatively you can whine about valve not catering to your self-destructive decision to run an EOL OS and demand refunds because Valve doesn't want anything to do with the security nightmare that is Windows 7. Honestly I think it reflects negatively on Valve's ethics if they encourage people to run an EOL operating system because of the security implications.

[Start_Running]

Publicado originalmente por Real:

Refusing to use Steam's services doesn't make you a scam victim. If you don't want to install a new version of Windows just use steam's proton tool to run older games on Linux (for free no less). Alternatively you can whine about valve not catering to your self-destructive decision to run an EOL OS and demand refunds because Valve doesn't want anything to do with the security nightmare that is Windows 7. Honestly I think it reflects negatively on Valve's ethics if they encourage people to run an EOL operating system because of the security implications.

It's not even that Valve has anything against W7 specifically. Its just that W7 will lack the certificates needed tio access the servers going forward.

if you could find a way to patch in the certificates and stuff into W7 then well you'll be good as gravy. Might even get some cash from Valve to lets them include the patch in their Steam installer.

But alas that does not seem to be the case to happen so..

[JK_Original]

Windows 7 is still a thing?

[lsdninja]

The billion threads all along these same lines on here give it away? 🤣

[Crazy Tiger]

Publicado originalmente por fataleb40:

Publicado originalmente por nullable:

Oh no! Anything but that.

You're free to use Windows 7, and you're free to deal with the consequences of that choice. Namely software and services will be dropping support and you'll be stuck on old versions or without access.

And why Steam do not refund the money? If they refuse the service they have to return the money. They do not.
Scam, loud and clear.

They're not refusing the service, they're offering the service in the same way they always did, against the same terms in the SSA.
You agreed that this could happen in the future. By refusing to use a supported OS after Jan 1st 2024, it's you who is refusing to fulfil the terms of the service.

You're not owed a refund for your own decision to not honor the terms, obviously.

But you're free to go to your local consumer agency and file a complaint, of course.

[[N]ebsun]

They really should just make a bare Steam module that runs only the minimum required for DRM stuff, downloading / installing / uninstalling games.
Not only for older OS's - but in general, some users don't want / need / use a large portion of Steam, so a minimum Steam version would be a good idea.

[Nige]

Publicado originalmente por Ralf Ferdius:

Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:

You know. The same thing was said when the XP dropping happened.
I wonder if you will actually be able to name any such games

The Sims 2

The Sims 2 worked fine on Windows 10 and also works fine on Windows 11

[Start_Running]

Publicado originalmente por Nebsun:

They really should just make a bare Steam module that runs only the minimum required for DRM stuff, downloading / installing / uninstalling games.

And that would require the security certificates, protocols and APIS which are tied to the OS.
Ironicall all the other stuff you'd leave out...well wouldn't
Funny how that works isn't it?


So your barebvones client without the 'fluff;' would still require w10.
On the other hand a client that just has all the fluff you don't like.. would be able to run just fine on W7.

And if you don't use a large portion of steam. 'Small Mode' its a thing. Never mind that you do have control over what parts of steam you use. The this only expend resources when actively engaged with.

[Nige]

Windows 11 is worse. Less support and more garbage. Most games seems not support it too.

Both seems to cannot longer run older games, the one made for discs. [/quote]

Publicado originalmente por doggle:

Publicado originalmente por Serendipity:

You have no idea what cancer is, I hope you never will.

If you think win10 is not the technological definition of cancer, YOU don't understand what it is. One of the worst most bloated OS of all time. I have an experimental Win7 build and I will not be switching anytime soon.

By comparing and OS to cancer, you are behaving like a spoiled child and deeply insulting all those of is whose lives have been blighted by a serious disease. Do you have any understanding at all as how idiotic you come across? First world problems blown out of all proportion by imbecilic children.
And, btw, I migrated over 100 games from Windows 7 to Windows 10 and the same list of games to Windows 11. They all work properly and most work better than they previously did.
Please try and keep some kind of perspective.

[Nige]

Publicado originalmente por Ralf Ferdius:

Publicado originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

Why do people keep repeating that incorrect stuff?

How do you get to this, @Crazy Tiger?

Publicado originalmente por BJWyler:

All but one game I own I can run on Windows 10 - either natively or via a VM or DOSbox. I had more issues going to Windows 7 from XP.

This is the way the tech industry has been since its inception. Your myopic personal views of Windows 10 are completely irrelevant and not of any concern to Microsoft nor Valve. You can stay on Windows 7 as long as you want, but there will be consequences for that decision. If you don't like those consequences, then perhaps you better rethink your decision.

Do you try to install some older games from their discs?
Will you buy them again via a digital store?

Installing an older game without deep diving in your (new) PC.
Need of installing other software to let you play those games?
Do they run without many crashes?
Do they run in full screen?

They do not have the exotic resolutions and features what Windows 10 or 11 expect to have, who both have man stuff and bad changes inside them you do not need.

Several older games will run better on Windows 7. As in beginning hat seems for Windows XP and back using Windows 98 to run them.

Which games have you experienced on Windows 10 and Windows 11?
I have over 100 games which worked on Windows 7 and Windows 10 and Windows 11.
Most of them work better on Windows 11. That’s my personal experience.

With regard to games on discs, what has that to do with Steam? Steam has never sold games on discs. Games on discs don’t work because games of disc are obsolete technology. Also, you’re complaining about Windows 10 being spyware or some such, but you don’t know that the DRM on discs was hugely more invasive than any OS.

[Nige]

Publicado originalmente por Ralf Ferdius:

No, I want not.

What will you do when you’re current hardware dies?

[Nige]

Publicado originalmente por lsdninja:

The billion threads all along these same lines on here give it away? 🤣

LOL 0.06% of Steam users are using Windows 7.

[Nige]

Publicado originalmente por EDƎN:

People here don't realize some people can be using older laptops which runs old games fine but struggles on W10. I myself have a pretty good PC but my small laptop which is mostly used for old and indie games becomes complete garbage once W10 is installed. And no, Linux runs bad on this thing too, not to mention all sorts of compatibility problems and hardware issues (My laptop gets really hot probably because the driver can't use the fan properly)
Removing W7 support is imminent because of Chrome stuff, I get it. Still, we should probably get something like Steam Lite client which just installs and runs games, no need for a browser stuff.
Basically, without W7 support these people lose the ability to play games which always ran completely fine.

What will you do when your Windows 7 hardware stops working?