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76561199488973502 2023 年 4 月 23 日上午 7:39

Lazy moderation detailed example of suspicious moderator activity

it appears that moderators are just lazy and unable to do jobs correctly
this type of consistant

"thread was quite old" is not really a realistic or professional reason as can be seen this moderator is abusing it to the extent to lock topics which appears to not suit there needs, all of this is also being done at 4:am, so it seems like this moderator wakes up or comes home from a night of partying and then locks thread without purpose.

the time stamp is the most important , as its early in the morning we have to consider that this person is either impaired in judgment, or typically engaging in violation of steam policy to simply control authority over others.

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76561199488973502 2023 年 4 月 23 日上午 8:13

im applogizing for my feelings, because i should be in better control, not that what the moderator did was right, because as a moderator they should also be in control of what they do.

i felt outrage over the bad activity review of said for moderator, i felt it was not befitting action for a moderator to take, that all the threads on the list should be reopened and that moderator should be reviewed, i even reported the moderator in question i won't use names.

this is a ongoing issue into the degrading disrespect that moderators are having for forum users, there is nothing wrong with reactivity on a older thread, many are still viable topic discussions.

what is wrong is the way that moderators are handling it and even choosing to get involved , which they shouldn't be wasting time to lock threads in the first place, they should be focusing on the ongoing account scams and dangerous forum information that leads people to trade compromised accounts.

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cSg|mc-Hotsauce 2023 年 4 月 23 日上午 8:15

引用自 Rainbow Unicorn Magic：
it was old but it was recently reactivated and it had activity in the past week so it was no longer old , it was new content, there seems to be some misconception about content age, if moderation did its job correctly the thread would be locked after 30 days of no activity, active discussion.

lemme explain if a thread has new content on it, it is now active discussion, so steam moderation is guilty of not locking threads after they have been inactive, and only once the thread is discussed about do they use this to come back an lock the thread that doesn't suit there moderation whims.

im sorry but locking a active thread no matter its age only shows the poor quality of moderation activity.

This is irrelevant to your complaint about the time of day it was locked. You did say it was the most important part.

引用自 Rainbow Unicorn Magic：
it appears that moderators are just lazy and unable to do jobs correctly
this type of consistant

"thread was quite old" is not really a realistic or professional reason as can be seen this moderator is abusing it to the extent to lock topics which appears to not suit there needs, all of this is also being done at 4:am, so it seems like this moderator wakes up or comes home from a night of partying and then locks thread without purpose.

the time stamp is the most important , as its early in the morning we have to consider that this person is either impaired in judgment, or typically engaging in violation of steam policy to simply control authority over others.

I'm not surprised at all you didn't know timezones were a thing though.

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Aachen 2023 年 4 月 23 日上午 8:16

Which they do, when you make non-spurious reports.

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Tanoomba 2023 年 4 月 23 日上午 9:13

I would imagine many of these threads get closed because people post something irrelevant or non-constructive to try to get the thread more attention. If the posts don't follow community guidelines, we wouldn't see them as they would be deleted at the same time the thread is closed.

In any case, this is hardly a travesty and is not indicative of poor moderation.

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DarkCrystalMethod 2023 年 4 月 23 日上午 9:29

Our pal just struck again.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/440/discussions/0/1621726179578498162/?tscn=1682267292

最后由 DarkCrystalMethod 编辑于; 2023 年 4 月 23 日上午 9:38

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Boblin the Goblin 2023 年 4 月 23 日上午 9:53

引用自 Rainbow Unicorn Magic：
i was simply shocked when i reviewed this moderators post history.

nothing but "thread was old" locks

as you can imagine it suprised me and seemed suspicious , nothing more, i am sorry if i felt some outrage over this "moderators apprently abuse of thread lock"

however maybe its just a automated moderator that skims the forum. cause i can't imagine they would pay someone to do this type of work

That's literally standard for their post history.

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BJWyler 2023 年 4 月 23 日上午 9:53

All I see is moderation doing the job they are paid to do. When a thread or post is reported, they act on that report according the the rules of the forum that have been given to them. At least they are earning the paycheck.

In terms of locking necros, that's a more nebulous topic since there is no clearly defined rule set for that. I think there should be. Personally I think every thread that has not seen a reply for 6 months or more should be auto locked.

But at the end of the day, I have had no serious issue with the moderation on the Steam forums for the years I have been following and active on them. They are no better, nor worse, than most of the global forums out there right now.

If people have issues with the rules, or moderation's enforcement of them, well... perhaps finding another forum more to their liking is in order. The vast majority of users here don't seem to have an issue, except for having to deal with those who have proven incapable of operating within the predefined ruleset.

最后由 BJWyler 编辑于; 2023 年 4 月 23 日上午 11:36

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infinitetech 2023 年 4 月 23 日下午 2:22

i will throw in two cents that locking a forum purely due to age is NEVER a good policy, having come from ye olden days of original msg boards and the like i know for a fact that old topics often come up again, some people need answers long after the common date, and people go quiet for a while and come back to being unable to reply.

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Aachen 2023 年 4 月 23 日下午 2:30

Reposts happen even when preëxisting topics aren’t locked.

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davidb11 2023 年 4 月 23 日下午 2:37

引用自 infinitetech：
i will throw in two cents that locking a forum purely due to age is NEVER a good policy, having come from ye olden days of original msg boards and the like i know for a fact that old topics often come up again, some people need answers long after the common date, and people go quiet for a while and come back to being unable to reply.

Locking old threads makes sense if they are bumped for no real reason.
Best to make a new thread than bump something old as dirt, or even a few years, or a year.

This really isn't a big issue.
I don't see why people think it is.

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Tanoomba 2023 年 4 月 23 日下午 4:00

引用自 davidb11：
I don't see why people think it is.

It rhymes with "shmentitlement".

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RiO 2023 年 4 月 23 日下午 11:46

引用自 davidb11：
引用自 infinitetech：
i will throw in two cents that locking a forum purely due to age is NEVER a good policy, having come from ye olden days of original msg boards and the like i know for a fact that old topics often come up again, some people need answers long after the common date, and people go quiet for a while and come back to being unable to reply.

Locking old threads makes sense if they are bumped for no real reason.
Best to make a new thread than bump something old as dirt, or even a few years, or a year.

This really isn't a big issue.
I don't see why people think it is.

No. What would make sense is Valve investing in proper moderation tooling so that moderators can remove bump-spam; off-topic replies; etc. and reset the last-updated date on a thread so it can go 'back to sleep' in its old spot until someone finds it again and adds a reply that's actually relevant.

The Steam community's own forum guidelines are internally conflicting on the matter as well:
You're not supposed to necro an old thread. But you're also not supposed to start new threads without searching if there's already a thread related to the topic. And you're not supposed to restart a thread that was locked by a moderator.

So to apply a bit of reductio ad absurdum:
Every one conceivable topic can get to be discussed once. And when interest wanes, and the thread has dropped down into the tail-end: tough. Bring it back at your own peril for being branded for breaking the rules?

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Tito Shivan 2023 年 4 月 24 日上午 1:34

引用自 RiO：
No. What would make sense is Valve investing in proper moderation tooling so that moderators can remove bump-spam; off-topic replies; etc. and reset the last-updated date on a thread so it can go 'back to sleep' in its old spot until someone finds it again and adds a reply that's actually relevant.

This is something we community mods already suggested time ago. Another suggestion was

引用自 RiO：
The Steam community's own forum guidelines are internally conflicting on the matter as well:
You're not supposed to necro an old thread. But you're also not supposed to start new threads without searching if there's already a thread related to the topic. And you're not supposed to restart a thread that was locked by a moderator.

There's really not that much conflict in regard necroing and searching. 'Necroing' isn't (or wasn't) frowned upon as long as the reply was on-topic. It's (was) the 'Bump' spam post the one that got the banhammer.

(We can discuss again actual mods little regard for context and its effect in locking bumped old threads even when the discussion is relevant.)

There could be better wording on the 'not repost locked or deleted content' rule. It usually was aimed to users who keep reposting their threads after deletion/locking, not really to 'there was a previous locked thread on this'

Again the importance of context in regards the application of rules.

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