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[vanishedchief2021]

Treat the steam deck as a console not a PC.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Originally posted by vanishedchief2021:

So if these things already exist and games are being developed for the steam deck why don't we get told what games are coming to steam deck.

Because they're also coming to the Steam platform for PC as well, I'm betting.

[Haruspex]

Originally posted by vanishedchief2021:

If valve treated the steam deck more like a console it will get better support.

How so, and support by whom?

Customers?
Console gamers expecting a console-gaming experience will immediately be baffled by extensive graphics options. How many console gamers even know what anisotropic filtering, DLSS, vsync, and antialiasing options even do? Most console gamers I've seen trying out PC gaming just crank all those options up not knowing what they even do because they want the "best" experience, only to be disappointed by the poor performance. On console, they don't give you these options.

Developers and Publishers?
They benefit already by having their game run on the Steam Deck and other Linux PCs with absolutely no further effort on their part. Sure, it's nice for us when they do put in that little bit of extra effort, but these are PC developers targeting PC as a platform. To them, the Steam Deck is just another one of endless possible hardware and software configurations PC gamers might be using. If it works on Deck, great. If not, well Deck users aren't really the target audience. 90-something percent of PC gamers are on Windows and that's mainly what they're concerned about.

So who is the Steam Deck even for? It's for PC gamers who would like to take their Steam library with them on the go, or even just to other areas of the house like the couch or bed. It's also for adventurous console gamers intrigued by PC with an open mind who aren't afraid of having to do a little configuring to get a good experience.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by vanishedchief2021:

So if these things already exist and games are being developed for the steam deck why don't we get told what games are coming to steam deck.

Because it's only up to the developers whether they optimize it for the Deck. There is no 'released for the Deck'. There's released for PC that runs well on the Deck.

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by vanishedchief2021:

So if these things already exist and games are being developed for the steam deck why don't we get told what games are coming to steam deck.

You have been told about that in your previous thread(s). Perhaps actually read the responses people give you in such threads.

[vanishedchief2021]

Originally posted by SlowMango:

Originally posted by vanishedchief2021:

So if these things already exist and games are being developed for the steam deck why don't we get told what games are coming to steam deck.

Because it's only up to the developers whether they optimize it for the Deck. There is no 'released for the Deck'. There's released for PC that runs well on the Deck.

Note for people who brought the steam deck but don't own a PC don't bother because you get no information or anything telling you what's coming out or not

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by vanishedchief2021:

So if these things already exist and games are being developed for the steam deck why don't we get told what games are coming to steam deck.

Ah see. You're thinking of the deck as a console as opposed to a portable pc.
Basically any PC game is potentially a deck game. Or more accurately. Any game that can run through Proton... is a potential deck game, and to know that they need to test with the final released game. But you're free to try games that aren't verified on the deck as well.,

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by vanishedchief2021:

Originally posted by SlowMango:

Because it's only up to the developers whether they optimize it for the Deck. There is no 'released for the Deck'. There's released for PC that runs well on the Deck.

Note for people who brought the steam deck but don't own a PC don't bother because you get no information or anything telling you what's coming out or not

Again, that's up to the developer.

If they want to advertise how their game will run on the Deck, they can do so. If they don't want to, they can do that too.

Steam won't force them to or do so on their behalf.

[vanishedchief2021]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Originally posted by vanishedchief2021:

So if these things already exist and games are being developed for the steam deck why don't we get told what games are coming to steam deck.

Ah see. You're thinking of the deck as a console as opposed to a portable pc.
Basically any PC game is potentially a deck game. Or more accurately. Any game that can run through Proton... is a potential deck game, and to know that they need to test with the final released game. But you're free to try games that aren't verified on the deck as well.,

That's where the problem is. And if you said they are using these dav kits why do they need to go through this process with proton unless you are lying

[Thermal Lance]

Originally posted by vanishedchief2021:

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Ah see. You're thinking of the deck as a console as opposed to a portable pc.
Basically any PC game is potentially a deck game. Or more accurately. Any game that can run through Proton... is a potential deck game, and to know that they need to test with the final released game. But you're free to try games that aren't verified on the deck as well.,

That's where the problem is. And if you said they are using these dav kits why do they need to go through this process with proton unless you are lying

Because those a PC game and the deck is running linux. It needs proton to run Windows games. It's a "compatibility layer" to keep it simple.

[vanishedchief2021]

Originally posted by SlowMango:

Originally posted by vanishedchief2021:

Note for people who brought the steam deck but don't own a PC don't bother because you get no information or anything telling you what's coming out or not

Again, that's up to the developer.

If they want to advertise how their game will run on the Deck, they can do so. If they don't want to, they can do that too.

Steam won't force them to or do so on their behalf.

You just told me they use these dev kits

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by vanishedchief2021:

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Ah see. You're thinking of the deck as a console as opposed to a portable pc.
Basically any PC game is potentially a deck game. Or more accurately. Any game that can run through Proton... is a potential deck game, and to know that they need to test with the final released game. But you're free to try games that aren't verified on the deck as well.,

That's where the problem is. And if you said they are using these dav kits why do they need to go through this process with proton unless you are lying

No one stated they are all using them. They have the option to if they want. They also have the option of developing the game for Linux from the start as well.

[vanishedchief2021]

I don't think any of you know what you are talking about.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by vanishedchief2021:

I don't think any of you know what you are talking about.

You didn't know there was a dev kit for the Deck and thought it needed to be considered a console to have one. You didn't understand that it's up to the publishers and developers to advertise their product working on the Deck. You didn't understand that considering the Deck a console wouldn't mean it would get more support.

People here are very aware of what they are talking about.

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by vanishedchief2021:

I don't think any of you know what you are talking about.

I think you're just trolling.

[Haruspex]

Originally posted by vanishedchief2021:

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Ah see. You're thinking of the deck as a console as opposed to a portable pc.
Basically any PC game is potentially a deck game. Or more accurately. Any game that can run through Proton... is a potential deck game, and to know that they need to test with the final released game. But you're free to try games that aren't verified on the deck as well.,

That's where the problem is. And if you said they are using these dav kits why do they need to go through this process with proton unless you are lying

There's no difference between the dev kits and a regular Steam Deck. They were on offer before the Steam Deck even released so devs could ensure their game ran well, but now that the Deck is out any regular Steam Deck is a dev kit, effectively.

From the Steam Deck Dev Kit page.

Functionally, these units are identical to the Steam Decks that will be shipping to customers later this year.