Voting on the Steam forum?

[Ni-Neith]

Is it necessary to create such a function on the forum?

Sometimes an ambiguous issue is discussed and it is not entirely clear on whose side the advantage is, who wins.

The forum has multi-page topics.

[76561199502155650]

only Paid for user accounts vote.

Meaning free accounts such as mine are not allowed to vote, it is only the paid for bot accounts that have increased over the years to control the review system and narratives.

this reason explains that steam game voting was fraudulently being conducted.

Forum polls would be the same users who actually contribute discussion wouldn't be allowed to vote, it would be controlled by the gaggle of bots that already sway bad reviews and or control the general popularity contest of games.

[Ni-Neith]

Messaggio originale di brian9824:

If all your friends jumped off a cliff would you do it too?
Just because others do it, does not mean everyone has to.

Ok!
If there is such a unanimous opinion here, I will not insist on an alternative opinion.

[Brian9824]

Messaggio originale di PC director:

Messaggio originale di brian9824:

If all your friends jumped off a cliff would you do it too?
Just because others do it, does not mean everyone has to.

Ok!
If there is such a unanimous opinion here, I will not insist on an alternative opinion.

You broke quoting as I did not say that

[Ni-Neith]

Messaggio originale di brian9824:

Messaggio originale di PC director:

Ok!
If there is such a unanimous opinion here, I will not insist on an alternative opinion.

You broke quoting as I did not say that

Sorry if I made a mistake in editing the post.

[Start_Running]

Messaggio originale di HikariLight:

Messaggio originale di PC director:

But admit that this is a useful feature.
There are polls on almost all forums.

If all your friends jumped off a cliff would you do it too?
Just because others do it, does not mean everyone has to.

Given rtheb amount of people hurt and injured doing Viral Youtibe and TikTok CHallenge...yeah the answer to that question would probably depress you...

Messaggio originale di Unicorn - Rainbow Unit:

only Paid for user accounts vote.

Meaning free accounts such as mine are not allowed to vote, it is only the paid for bot accounts that have increased over the years to control the review system and narratives.

this reason explains that steam game voting was fraudulently being conducted.

Forum polls would be the same users who actually contribute discussion wouldn't be allowed to vote, it would be controlled by the gaggle of bots that already sway bad reviews and or control the general popularity contest of games.

Greenlight? Oh its not that the Votes were fraudulent m8. Its that basically it was very easy to bribe groups of gamers into voting on stuff. The Average gamer will sell themselves for less than the 60 year old hooker who works out of the alley behind Arby's.


And paid or not. WHat does piopularity contribute to an actual discussion.. nothing.

[76561199502155650]

yeah i can believe that some in game item would sway voting for real players, but there is still a bot population of accounts that simply paid 5 dollars, and or even buying the games on the bot accounts to review them.

The actual level of the deceit is mind blowing and seems somewhat expensive, which leads me to believe that only steam itself would actually be doing it in the form of 1000's of bots.

after all its steams platform, they could generate keys for games for any account they want. which is one of the reasons i believe so many fake steam user accounts float around on steam.

its just your typical steam user isn't buying 1000's of games, but steam generating game keys for those accounts is consistent with the level of bot manipulation that goes on in steam.

anyway i told steam support i would try to not get into this crap, its not my responsibility to whistle blow at steam.

it just simply falls down to the moral ethics of both the platform and its users.

[Zarineth]

Messaggio originale di Unicorn - Rainbow Unit:

yeah i can believe that some in game item would sway voting for real players, but there is still a bot population of accounts that simply paid 5 dollars, and or even buying the games on the bot accounts to review them.

The actual level of the deceit is mind blowing and seems somewhat expensive, which leads me to believe that only steam itself would actually be doing it in the form of 1000's of bots.

after all its steams platform, they could generate keys for games for any account they want. which is one of the reasons i believe so many fake steam user accounts float around on steam.

its just your typical steam user isn't buying 1000's of games, but steam generating game keys for those accounts is consistent with the level of bot manipulation that goes on in steam.

You keep repeating this and I have to yet see proof for any of your claims. It's like you are perfectly aware, that what you are saying is bs.

[Brian9824]

Messaggio originale di Zarineth:

Messaggio originale di Unicorn - Rainbow Unit:

yeah i can believe that some in game item would sway voting for real players, but there is still a bot population of accounts that simply paid 5 dollars, and or even buying the games on the bot accounts to review them.

The actual level of the deceit is mind blowing and seems somewhat expensive, which leads me to believe that only steam itself would actually be doing it in the form of 1000's of bots.

after all its steams platform, they could generate keys for games for any account they want. which is one of the reasons i believe so many fake steam user accounts float around on steam.

its just your typical steam user isn't buying 1000's of games, but steam generating game keys for those accounts is consistent with the level of bot manipulation that goes on in steam.

You keep repeating this and I have to yet see proof for any of your claims. It's like you are perfectly aware, that what you are saying is bs.

It makes one wonder if companies like EPIC are engaged in creating alt accounts to post negative things on their competitor sites as a way to try to engage in clandestine attacks on them.

Or i'm doing to many corporate espionage missions in Starfield....

[76561199502155650]

it isn't my responsibility to prove anything, simply providing context and means to possibility that it happens, it should be up to steam to prove they don't do it and don't allow it, which by reviewing it you can see it clearly happens and it is clearly being done.

why should a typical free user care, we all already know i love how you all quickly chime in with proof when you already know what i am saying is consistent with platform manipulation that only steam could control.


yeah sorry i don't work for any organization, i am just a free player that wanted a cheap steam deck sold at my local store? makes you wonder at what level do real people actually exist on steam, when steams so quick to attack the real people in favor of narrative.

if we where are gonna vote, maybe steam should actually only let its real users vote and not its fictitious accounts that populate the whole system.

[Start_Running]

Messaggio originale di Unicorn - Rainbow Unit:

it isn't my responsibility to prove anything, simply providing context and means to possibility that it happens,

YEah but not m8. If you're making an assertion you need to provide evidence as to its veracity, otherwise you're basically lying..

Messaggio originale di Unicorn - Rainbow Unit:

it should be up to steam to prove they don't do it and don't allow it, which by reviewing it you can see it clearly happens and it is clearly being done.

They don't allow it, since it does violate many rules and dev/pubs have been yeeted from the platform for trying to use such tactics. SO no it's not allowed. That much is clear to see.

Messaggio originale di Unicorn - Rainbow Unit:

Why should a typical free user care,

You're clearly not a typical free user m8. Free users don't generally go around spamming the forums with conspiracy theories. They're playing thier games.

Messaggio originale di Unicorn - Rainbow Unit:

if we where are gonna vote, maybe steam should actually only let its real users vote and not its fictitious accounts that populate the whole system.

And we all know you'd never acknowledge any vorte result that did not go in your favor as being made by 'real users' so Voting is by your own metric, pointless.

[76561199502155650]

Voting in itself is not a fair form of decision making, its plays favortism and forces people to choose a side. also since it can be manipulated by both sides it can never be truthful or accurate,

it falls down to which side can manipulate the votes better. I do believe that steam would quickly try to stop a developer from manipulating the reviews or votes in there favor without spending money on steam.

At the same time i expect steam to manipulate the votes in the favor of there own profit and paid adverts to such developers.

I suppose i am not a "typical" free user, but i am a free user.

I guess i just have years of experience with seeing a world trying to force a narrative down peoples throats. Its easy to see when you look closely at a situation or topic.

Steam if no different, when you first look at steam its a game store, when you dive into it its a data collection, when you get under the hood of steam you realize its a intrusive software that causes over all kinds of performance issues. Steam is also a P2P file transfer system. so there is really no way for a user to know what files steam is putting on or taking off a computer system.

much like malware however they call it Steamware.

[UrbanMech]

Messaggio originale di Unicorn - Rainbow Unit:

Steam if no different, when you first look at steam its a game store, when you dive into it its a data collection, when you get under the hood of steam you realize its a intrusive software that causes over all kinds of performance issues. Steam is also a P2P file transfer system. so there is really no way for a user to know what files steam is putting on or taking off a computer system.

much like malware however they call it Steamware.

What are you going on about?

Might as well just stick to old games that are on CDs then.

Also Steam doesn't sell the information they collect. It's only for there own store. They don't have marketing partners that they share with either.


Assuming you disabled G**** Analytics which is going away in the future completely. But that's not even Valve. Thats just Valve using ♥♥♥♥♥♥ software that does collection by itself.

[Ni-Neith]

Messaggio originale di Start_Running:

Messaggio originale di HikariLight:

If all your friends jumped off a cliff would you do it too?
Just because others do it, does not mean everyone has to.

Given rtheb amount of people hurt and injured doing Viral Youtibe and TikTok CHallenge...yeah the answer to that question would probably depress you...

To be honest, I'm not an emotional person at all. And for something on the forum to depress me - this is generally from the category of fantasy.

[The Commendatore]

Not necessary.

[Knee]

Messaggio originale di PC director:

Messaggio originale di Start_Running:

Given rtheb amount of people hurt and injured doing Viral Youtibe and TikTok CHallenge...yeah the answer to that question would probably depress you...

To be honest, I'm not an emotional person at all. And for something on the forum to depress me - this is generally from the category of fantasy.

I think a poll, to see if the forums are a depressing place, is in order.