Sysgen Jul 23, 2023 @ 12:40pm
Bundle Sale Date Ending Suggestion
Found 2 games in a bundle in which the bundle is on sale but not the games outside the bundle.

When a game is on sale you see the sale end date on the product page however the bundle (page) sale has no end date for the sale.

I would like to see an end date for the bundle sale.

https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/29532/Through_the_Darkest_Worlds/
Last edited by Sysgen; Jul 23, 2023 @ 12:42pm
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rawWwRrr Jul 23, 2023 @ 12:42pm 
It's not a sale price but a discount for buying the bundle. The discounts are not meant to have expirations.
Crazy Tiger Jul 23, 2023 @ 12:44pm 
Yup, as said it's just a bundle discount and not a special sale or anything.
Sysgen Jul 23, 2023 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
It's not a sale price but a discount for buying the bundle. The discounts are not meant to have expirations.


Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
Yup, as said it's just a bundle discount and not a special sale or anything.

If permanent, still nice to know that it's a permanent bundle discount or it has an end date..
Last edited by Sysgen; Jul 23, 2023 @ 12:48pm
nullable Jul 23, 2023 @ 12:52pm 
Not having an end date, and the bundles to my mind make it clear enough the discount is because of the bundling, not because of a sale. Not a lot of people express confusion about this that I've seen.

This might just be a case where you need to be told something that's obvious for most people, and say, "oh, yes, I see" and go on a little wiser. You having some confusion may not necessarily be a problem the system needs to resolve in every case.
Sysgen Jul 23, 2023 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by nullable:
Not having an end date, and the bundles to my mind make it clear enough the discount is because of the bundling, not because of a sale. Not a lot of people express confusion about this that I've seen.

This might just be a case where you need to be told something that's obvious for most people, and say, "oh, yes, I see" and go on a little wiser. You having some confusion may not necessarily be a problem the system needs to resolve in every case.

No need to assume anything. For one I am well versed in Steam mechanics. I brought this to forum attention as a suggestion because of the highly unusual price difference between the aggregate product cost sole separately and the bundle cost without owning any of the bundled products.
Last edited by Sysgen; Jul 23, 2023 @ 1:03pm
rawWwRrr Jul 23, 2023 @ 1:14pm 
Originally posted by Sysgen:
Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
It's not a sale price but a discount for buying the bundle. The discounts are not meant to have expirations.


Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
Yup, as said it's just a bundle discount and not a special sale or anything.

If permanent, still nice to know that it's a permanent bundle discount or it has an end date..
There is no end date in which to formally announce one way or the other. It's like when a company gives a discount for buying in bulk. The discount just is.
Sysgen Jul 23, 2023 @ 1:17pm 
Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Originally posted by Sysgen:

If permanent, still nice to know that it's a permanent bundle discount or it has an end date..
There is no end date in which to formally announce one way or the other. It's like when a company gives a discount for buying in bulk. The discount just is.

An end date or a state of permanent discount would communicate information to the customer. Said my peace, offered my suggestion, All be well my friends.
nullable Jul 23, 2023 @ 1:23pm 
Originally posted by Sysgen:
No need to assume anything. For one I am well versed in Steam mechanics. I brought this to forum attention as a suggestion because of the highly unusual price difference between the aggregate product cost sole separately and the bundle cost without owning any of the bundled products.

If you're well versed in Steam mechanics then the price shouldn't have confused you so much.

The games aren't on sale, and the if the developers wants the bundle to be an extreme discount, that's their choice. They can change it as they see fit. There's no particular end date to display or other information about the bundle to display.

Again, your confusion may not warrant a change to the system. If you have additional questions about the bundle or the price, those would be for the developers to address. The game's forums might be a resource as well.

Originally posted by Sysgen:

An end date or a state of permanent discount would communicate information to the customer. Said my peace, offered my suggestion, All be well my friends.


No price is permanent. Prices can change, and that also goes for bundles. If they told you it was permanent and then later changed it you'd have words to say about that, no?

So the current price is the price, and there's no particular end date to display, or other information.
Last edited by nullable; Jul 23, 2023 @ 1:24pm
rawWwRrr Jul 23, 2023 @ 1:34pm 
Originally posted by Sysgen:
Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
There is no end date in which to formally announce one way or the other. It's like when a company gives a discount for buying in bulk. The discount just is.

An end date or a state of permanent discount would communicate information to the customer. Said my peace, offered my suggestion, All be well my friends.
It already is a permanent discount.
Enginerd Jul 23, 2023 @ 1:47pm 
Originally posted by Sysgen:
Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
It's not a sale price but a discount for buying the bundle. The discounts are not meant to have expirations.


Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
Yup, as said it's just a bundle discount and not a special sale or anything.

If permanent, still nice to know that it's a permanent bundle discount or it has an end date..
AGREED

it should say if this is a permanent bundle deal OR if its a sale / expiration.. not a huge deal but can be confusing at times especially when your sorting through a game with a TON of DLC
Sysgen Jul 23, 2023 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by nullable:
Originally posted by Sysgen:
No need to assume anything. For one I am well versed in Steam mechanics. I brought this to forum attention as a suggestion because of the highly unusual price difference between the aggregate product cost sole separately and the bundle cost without owning any of the bundled products.

If you're well versed in Steam mechanics then the price shouldn't have confused you so much.

The games aren't on sale, and the if the developers wants the bundle to be an extreme discount, that's their choice. They can change it as they see fit. There's no particular end date to display or other information about the bundle to display.

Again, your confusion may not warrant a change to the system. If you have additional questions about the bundle or the price, those would be for the developers to address. The game's forums might be a resource as well.

Originally posted by Sysgen:

An end date or a state of permanent discount would communicate information to the customer. Said my peace, offered my suggestion, All be well my friends.


No price is permanent. Prices can change, and that also goes for bundles. If they told you it was permanent and then later changed it you'd have words to say about that, no?

So the current price is the price, and there's no particular end date to display, or other information.


Gracias. Thank you for making my case for an ending date.

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Originally posted by Sysgen:

An end date or a state of permanent discount would communicate information to the customer. Said my peace, offered my suggestion, All be well my friends.
It already is a permanent discount.

@nullable disagrees with you.
Last edited by Sysgen; Jul 23, 2023 @ 3:28pm
rawWwRrr Jul 23, 2023 @ 4:16pm 
Originally posted by Sysgen:
Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
It already is a permanent discount.

@nullable disagrees with you.
And what you're asking for is pedantic. The discount is as permanent as any price is. None of them are set in stone into perpetuity. Yet, you want the bundle discounts to be treated as though they are temporary sale discounts. They are not. They don't need to have expiration dates because they are not meant to fluctuate and change like a sale discount does. Just like that latest and greatest AAA game that just releases at a $69.99 price tag is not always going to be $69.99. Eventually it will drop in price. However, the $69.99 of that game is the permanent price... until a publisher decides they want to lower it. The same applies to the bundle discounts. This is not a difficult concept to grasp.

Edit: Maybe "permanent" is too strong a word to use in this case. "Set price" is probably more appropriate. In either case, the price and the discount is chosen by the publisher and is set to only change when they deem it appropriate to change. Therefore, there is no future end date. It is simply the price, or bundle discount, that is considered current.
Last edited by rawWwRrr; Jul 23, 2023 @ 4:22pm
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Jul 23, 2023 @ 4:19pm 
Bundle prices are permanent if there is no sale date on them, until the dev/pub changes the price for the bundle itself.

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Callahan420 Jul 23, 2023 @ 8:22pm 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Bundle prices are permanent if there is no sale date on them, until the dev/pub changes the price for the bundle itself.

Devs can change the discount on a bundle at any time so they are not permanent. Case in point is the Yakuza remastered bundle. Was $15 with the bundle discount and now it is $40. None of the games were on sale at the time of he bundle discount.

https://store.steampowered.com/18730/Yakuza_Remastered_Collection/
Sysgen Jul 23, 2023 @ 10:56pm 
Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Originally posted by Sysgen:

@nullable disagrees with you.
And what you're asking for is pedantic. The discount is as permanent as any price is. None of them are set in stone into perpetuity. Yet, you want the bundle discounts to be treated as though they are temporary sale discounts. They are not. They don't need to have expiration dates because they are not meant to fluctuate and change like a sale discount does. Just like that latest and greatest AAA game that just releases at a $69.99 price tag is not always going to be $69.99. Eventually it will drop in price. However, the $69.99 of that game is the permanent price... until a publisher decides they want to lower it. The same applies to the bundle discounts. This is not a difficult concept to grasp.

Edit: Maybe "permanent" is too strong a word to use in this case. "Set price" is probably more appropriate. In either case, the price and the discount is chosen by the publisher and is set to only change when they deem it appropriate to change. Therefore, there is no future end date. It is simply the price, or bundle discount, that is considered current.

Exactly and you further make the case for my suggestion. Let me divulge to you what is didactic. A bundle discount is a sale especially since the developer can change it at any time. It may not look like sale, smell like sale but yes it is a sale and since when is more information for the customer bad?
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