New User Counter next to thread reply count to show actual users posting on topics

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Due to the population issues with steam forums being extremely low, it would be great to see a New Tooltip next to replys, that shows exactly how many individual user accounts are commenting on any thread.

This will resolve clarity issues on the number of actual users participating on a thread vs repeat messages from the same user to increase threadCount.

[Start_Running]

Tanoomba님이 먼저 게시:

Please don't stop the Posting님이 먼저 게시:

why are you people all so scared of user count on the forum?

Nobody's scared of it. It's just an irrelevant number.

At best it's a measure of one off posts. which give no actual indication of the discussion itself. And a lot of those would likely be people who still believe they need to post to get that badge.

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yes that is exactly what we need a break down of user accounts an the number of times they posted in each respective thread. why has steam not got on this, i feel they intensionally hide the number due to the extremely low population factor of the forum.

we are all about statisitcs and so is steam this is one of the most important influencer statistics there is, which is how many real users are responding to forum threads.

Please get on this right away steam, create content within your forums that show meaningfulness to its user base and those interested in helping the forum to grow.

[Tito Shivan]

But you don't believe Steam's stats anyway. Why this one would be relevant?

Start_Running님이 먼저 게시:

And this is supposed to accomplis...what?

I guess him not being shown in the counter.

Psymon²님이 먼저 게시:

good idea.
seeing the ratio of users to comments would be a nice statistic, kinda shows whether it's lots of people chiming in, or jew a few going at each other endlessly, from just a glance.

A nº of posts / nº of unique posters ratio?

I'm quite sure such a stat would be swiftly disliked by the ones initially most in favour of it.

Imagine going to a miles long 'Steam dropping W7 Support' and see that ratio plunge (as most of the posts are from a small number of accounts) making the 'validity' of a thread with thousands replies vanishes in the face of those claiming 'they're legion'.

All the 'This thread is important because thousands of posts' having their validation vanish by realising 90% of those 'thousands of posts' is just himself replying to every other comment in the thread.

[Aachen]

Please don't stop the Posting님이 먼저 게시:

…. we are all about statisitcs and so is steam this is one of the most important influencer statistics there is, which is how many real users are responding to forum threads ….

Where do any …. influencers …. discuss the vitality of number-of-users-posting-on-a-forum?

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SlowMango님이 먼저 게시:

Please don't stop the Posting님이 먼저 게시:

the irony is that your still trying to be relievant and even tried to add yourself a award which puts the patheticness of your own actions into clear perspective.

what needs to happen is steam needs to show user count along side thread count so the whole system can see just how dead an isolated and depopulated the steam forum really is.

even potentially adding a tooltip over to highlight the higher active user accounts on a thread an giving the number of replys by the highest posting account

a great example would be

this thread since i created it i have replyed prob 5 or 6 times outta 33 posts, with less then 15 individual users on the thread, its saturday night as well and steam forums are so dead its almost scary.

why steam needs to do this is cause nobody takes steam seriously any more, users are fleeing the system, and people who seem to be indentured to steam are grumpy an left with a sour taste as they quickly see nobody is around to communicate with functionality.

i see all of you guys in every thread its getting old an boring, steam hub is clearly dead in the water with less active population then i even imagined.

Steam needs to prove it has users, from my view point it looks like steam is just lying about its users and the steam forum reflects the real user base and its extremely low

Didn't give any awards.

Users aren't "fleeing the system". A great majority of users have no use for the forums. Even bigger amount don't even care to use them.

Having a "new poster" stat is completely useless.

Many people may infact use the forums, but simply not bother to post. I mean if you find a post that already addresses an issue you can freely read and enjoy the discourse without participating in it.

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steam really doesn't have any influencers except you guys trying to influence that steam isn't broken or steam has a population when clearly anyone who looks into it and investigates into it, can see the facts.

and the w7 support drop is the perfect example thank you for bringing it up, with 4000 postings, i am sure it has less then 500 users, so this type of indept user declaration is needed to show exactly that there aren't that many people who are interested in the forums in general, and that larger topics are just continued small groups of users posting frequently to create thread count.

i know its a good idea, others know its a good idea, you guys seem scared an steam is most likely terrified because it means the forums are extremely under populated and that points into more question that the steam user statistics are also being inflated to make the platform look larger and more active then it really is.

that is part of the problem after all, if you can't trust steam to be truthful why would you buy games from them.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

Please don't stop the Posting님이 먼저 게시:

yes i can back up my claim of low forum population, the second that steam beings to show us the real number of users within threads we will all see the population issues, even with extremely large threads with over 1000 replys we will quickly see that represented number of users are well under 500 differnt accounts.

this thread currently have 15 comments, but only 8 differnt users are active on the thread, this should give you the kinda indication that steam forum is about 50% lower then thread count numbers.

You can add me to that total making it 9.

[Tito Shivan]

This thread makes a good example of how useless are numbers when you don't know how to use them.

Please don't stop the Posting님이 먼저 게시:

that is part of the problem after all, if you can't trust steam to be truthful why would you buy games from them.

It's you the one not buying games from Steam, not the others.

[Start_Running]

Tito Shivan님이 먼저 게시:

This thread makes a good example of how useless are numbers when you don't know how to use them.

Please don't stop the Posting님이 먼저 게시:

that is part of the problem after all, if you can't trust steam to be truthful why would you buy games from them.

It's you the one not buying games from Steam, not the others.

I think that's the point.
It's not what the numbers actually mean but what sort of inarrative theat can be spun from the numbers.

When the posts favour them: "See I'm right all these people agree with me"
When the numbers favour those opposed to their narrative: "The Trolls, fanboys, shills, and bots are trying to gang up on me."

[Tito Shivan]

Start_Running님이 먼저 게시:

I think that's the point.
It's not what the numbers actually mean but what sort of inarrative theat can be spun from the numbers.

"You can prove anything with data" they say.

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proving that steam hasn't done it yet either means steam didn't think of the idea, which i doubt

or steam is hiding the numbers cause the numbers are so bad, either way its out in the open now steam has no choice but to acknowledge it or try to continue to hide it.

hiding it is bad for business cause eventually it all comes to light, just imagine if in the event steam does become exposed to having a fake population of gaming on its platform that they knowing engaged in creating it would be a very large anti trust lawsuit agains them because they are using fake numbers to promote software sales on games.

this is extremely dishonest to users, it is better that steam gives real and accurate numbers all across its platform, including the forum to provide the best clarity and user declaration they can possibly give , in the event the platform population does come under investigation, it might actually safe them some legal issues because they declared the population truthfully to the users.

[Anxiety]

Dead Internet theory vibes here.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Please don't stop the Posting님이 먼저 게시:

proving that steam hasn't done it yet either means steam didn't think of the idea, which i doubt

or steam is hiding the numbers cause the numbers are so bad, either way its out in the open now steam has no choice but to acknowledge it or try to continue to hide it.

hiding it is bad for business cause eventually it all comes to light, just imagine if in the event steam does become exposed to having a fake population of gaming on its platform that they knowing engaged in creating it would be a very large anti trust lawsuit agains them because they are using fake numbers to promote software sales on games.

this is extremely dishonest to users, it is better that steam gives real and accurate numbers all across its platform, including the forum to provide the best clarity and user declaration they can possibly give , in the event the platform population does come under investigation, it might actually safe them some legal issues because they declared the population truthfully to the users.

Or there's literally no point.

It isn't some grand conspiracy that they are hiding their numbers.

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so it is a grand conspriacy now? that makes sense, i like when users try to denie things its sorta like big governement, you know when they denie it , there is more truth in the matter then when they just simply iggnore it.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Please don't stop the Posting님이 먼저 게시:

so it is a grand conspriacy now? that makes sense, i like when users try to denie things its sorta like big governement, you know when they denie it , there is more truth in the matter then when they just simply iggnore it.

Uh huh.

That isn't how it works.