Family sharing rework.

[KayLogger]

Family sharing rework.

Family sharing is one of the best things about Steam, along with remote play together.
However, it is a very unfeasible system to use. That's why I wanted to send some suggestions.

in 1st place the focus of sharing games is to create ties and share experiences with people close to you, that game that left an impact on you, that story that enchanted you, that boss that pissed you off. It's always fun to create memories with friends and family, even when they're far apart.
But most people who have financial conditions to "Compare and Share" a game, will hardly stay out of steam, they are always playing something or looking for something new to play.
And THAT is the biggest flaw of this system.

So instead of sharing the "FULL Library" and forcing the owner to be Off and not being able to play, let the family member play.
The System should be changed to share 1~5 games at most, already aiming for unforeseen futures such as "External rent"
_ You can share up to 5 games at a time in TOTAL.
_ These games are temporarily unavailable from your account, as if you were actually lending that video game tape to your friend.
_You can share with up to a maximum of 2 people simultaneously or that is 5 people 1 game with each. (but I trust more in 2 ~ 3) at most to prevent people from starting to rent games as I said above
_The game is unavailable until the familiar "returns" or you demand a forced return.
_You can continue using your account normally without demerits or punishments, only the shared Games will be unavailable.

I thought about it a lot because there are many games that I would like my friends to play, or at least test, And between " Piracy, and Refund Policy " , I would prefer that they could just borrow the game, test it and if they liked it, we would buy it and played.
But I'm always on Steam so I can't keep logging out of my account to let my friend test the game for 3~5 hours.

I ask you to look carefully and think carefully because this is the ONLY complaint I have about Steam, as I consider it to be the best gaming platform today.

Ps: I remembered that I have another complaint hehehe (laughs), the lvl system is precarious, the only way to level up is by cards that need to be bought with MONEY from other people? needs a review too

[Zarineth]

People will just start to lend games for money. Bad idea.

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KayLogger の投稿を引用：

Family sharing rework.

Family sharing is one of the best things about Steam, along with remote play together.
However, it is a very unfeasible system to use. That's why I wanted to send some suggestions.

in 1st place the focus of sharing games is to create ties and share experiences with people close to you, that game that left an impact on you, that story that enchanted you, that boss that pissed you off. It's always fun to create memories with friends and family, even when they're far apart.
But most people who have financial conditions to "Compare and Share" a game, will hardly stay out of steam, they are always playing something or looking for something new to play.
And THAT is the biggest flaw of this system.

Working as intended. Family Sharing isn't really meant to help you buy fewer games. The limits allow you some utility, and mainly enables you to share games without sharing your account, which is what people will do left to their own devices no matter how much their told not to and account sharing is a terrible idea. But Family Sharing is essentially a safe way to share your account, that's really it.

If a game is so great that a friend has to play it, gift it to them. Games go on sale all the time. If that's not worth it to you, you and your friend(s) will have to go without.

Valve isn't going to change the system so cheapskates, and poor people, and people who don't actually value a product can play more games for free.

KayLogger の投稿を引用：

So instead of sharing the "FULL Library" and forcing the owner to be Off and not being able to play, let the family member play.
The System should be changed to share 1~5 games at most, already aiming for unforeseen futures such as "External rent"
_ You can share up to 5 games at a time in TOTAL.

Sounds like that would address some inconvenience you have. But what's the benefit for Valve and for publishers exactly? Users seem to forget publishers and developers are customers too and giving users ways to spend less money hurt that other group of customers. Why are they going to do that?

A system has to provide some benefit or mitigate harm to all the parties involved. Family sharing does that. Arbitrarily limited free-for-all sharing won't.

KayLogger の投稿を引用：

_ These games are temporarily unavailable from your account, as if you were actually lending that video game tape to your friend.
_You can share with up to a maximum of 2 people simultaneously or that is 5 people 1 game with each. (but I trust more in 2 ~ 3) at most to prevent people from starting to rent games as I said above
_The game is unavailable until the familiar "returns" or you demand a forced return.
_You can continue using your account normally without demerits or punishments, only the shared Games will be unavailable.

Not gonna happen. The system needs to work for all parties. And that's not to say I wouldn't mind it. I could borrow games from the wife's library and vice versa. But ultimately if I really want to play them, playing her game without limits is just a potential lost sale.

If something isn't worth paying for, it's not worth playing. At least that's how a lot of developers/publishers are gonna feel.

Not to mention family sharing is opt in, so such a undesirable system is going to cause a lot of games to opt out of family sharing, which kinda undercuts your goals too.

KayLogger の投稿を引用：

I thought about it a lot because there are many games that I would like my friends to play, or at least test, And between " Piracy, and Refund Policy " , I would prefer that they could just borrow the game, test it and if they liked it, we would buy it and played.
But I'm always on Steam so I can't keep logging out of my account to let my friend test the game for 3~5 hours.

Well keep thinking, seems like there's lots of variables you haven't considered yet.

KayLogger の投稿を引用：

I ask you to look carefully and think carefully because this is the ONLY complaint I have about Steam, as I consider it to be the best gaming platform today.

Well since your complaint is Steam doesn't let you exploit Valve or developers/publishers for your own benefit, I think they'll find a way to live with that.

KayLogger の投稿を引用：

Ps: I remembered that I have another complaint hehehe (laughs), the lvl system is precarious, the only way to level up is by cards that need to be bought with MONEY from other people? needs a review too

Some systems are for paying customers... also you can trade cards, although I understand how that's probably time consuming and whatnot. Regardless, not being willing to spend money isn't an argument for a system to change for your convenience, well not a good argument.

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KayLogger の投稿を引用：

Ps: I remembered that I have another complaint hehehe (laughs), the lvl system is precarious, the only way to level up is by cards that need to be bought with MONEY from other people? needs a review too

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[Brian9824]

Yeah that would be massively abused. Friend A buys Starfield, Friend B buys Baldurs gate 3, and instead of them buying both they just take turns. Then they loan it to friend C, D, E, ZZZ, etc when they are done playing their games. Developers don't like the system with physical games as people buy 1 copy and share among groups all the time. One of the reasons they like digital is they can stop that.

Developers have the option of opting out of family sharing, they agreed to the current system because all the limitations were enough to convince them, start removing them and none of the developers will agree anymore and family sharing will just completely die.