The new inventory API limit is too strict and makes trading difficult

[Dom]

"You've made too many requests recently. Please wait and try your request again later."

I've encountered this limit for a few times now, and this is honestly something that only bots should have to encounter, not regular human traders who just wish to swap items.

Many people do more than just few trades per day and thus have to load inventories more frequently, I don't know if Valve expected that there aren't people who do so in games such as TF2 or CSGO.

Please reconsider this, it's ridiculous.

(And before people suggest that changing IP bypasses this, I know that, I won't do it.)

[eram]

how many is more than just a few per day?

how many trade are you doing in 24 hours to hit a limit?

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dom:

The new inventory API limit is too strict and makes trading difficult

"You've made too many requests recently. Please wait and try your request again later."

I've encountered this limit for a few times now, and this is honestly something that only bots should have to encounter, not regular human traders who just wish to swap items.

Many people do more than just few trades per day and thus have to load inventories more frequently, I don't know if Valve expected that there aren't people who do so in games such as TF2 or CSGO.

Please reconsider this, it's ridiculous.

(And before people suggest that changing IP bypasses this, I know that, I won't do it.)

Shared IPs and browser extensions also impact the rate limit.

This is not going to be reduced in the foreseeable future.

[Dom]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von eram:

how many is more than just a few per day?

how many trade are you doing in 24 hours to hit a limit?

Admittedly, one day I did a lot (and perhaps that may justify some kind of cooldown too) but I think today I loaded my inventory just a couple of times and then got hit with the limit. I didn't even trade today.

These kind of limits should combat bots, not regular users. I have never used any bots.

[eram]

how many approx?

5?
50?
500?

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dom:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von eram:

how many is more than just a few per day?

how many trade are you doing in 24 hours to hit a limit?

Admittedly, one day I did a lot (and perhaps that may justify some kind of cooldown too) but I think today I loaded my inventory just a couple of times and then got hit with the limit. I didn't even trade today.

These kind of limits should combat bots, not regular users. I have never used any bots.

The rate limit is not discriminatory. It's all or nothing.

[Dom]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von eram:

how many approx?

5?
50?
500?

I doubt it was over 100, might've been around 50 during that day.

But that was earlier. Today I didn't trade at all, yet got hit with it, again. I loaded my inventory a couple of times throughout the day. That should not happen.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dom:

Admittedly, one day I did a lot (and perhaps that may justify some kind of cooldown too) but I think today I loaded my inventory just a couple of times and then got hit with the limit. I didn't even trade today.

These kind of limits should combat bots, not regular users. I have never used any bots.

The rate limit is not discriminatory. It's all or nothing.

:summercat2023::summercat2023:

I'm not saying it's discriminatory. If everyone is put under the same restriction, sure, it's fair.
But I have a feeling that this is anti-bot measure (since trading bots are very common in these games), not for regular user activity.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dom:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

The rate limit is not discriminatory. It's all or nothing.

I'm not saying it's discriminatory. If everyone is put under the same restriction, sure, it's fair.
But I have a feeling that this is anti-bot measure (since trading bots are very common in these games), not for regular user activity.

You want it to be discriminatory though. It won't be.

[Dom]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dom:

I'm not saying it's discriminatory. If everyone is put under the same restriction, sure, it's fair.
But I have a feeling that this is anti-bot measure (since trading bots are very common in these games), not for regular user activity.

You want it to be discriminatory though. It won't be.

:summercat2023:

It's not discriminatory if anti-bot measures target bots. Bots are not people, so I don't think you can actively discriminate against them.

[rawWwRrr]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dom:

But I have a feeling that this is anti-bot measure (since trading bots are very common in these games), not for regular user activity.

Of course it's an anti-bot measure. And most of the time, a regular user should not encounter the restriction it causes. But every once in a while it does and there's not much you can do about it but wait it out.

[Dom]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von rawWwRrr:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dom:

But I have a feeling that this is anti-bot measure (since trading bots are very common in these games), not for regular user activity.

Of course it's an anti-bot measure. And most of the time, a regular user should not encounter the restriction it causes. But every once in a while it does and there's not much you can do about it but wait it out.

That's true.
Although this shall be criticism because if I get bot-restricted for loading my inventory few times in one day, and not doing a single trade that day, then I think it's too far.

[eram]

simply stay below the trade limit for the day, im assuming its 24 hours and you seem to think it could be around 50 trades per day.

[rawWwRrr]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dom:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von rawWwRrr:

Of course it's an anti-bot measure. And most of the time, a regular user should not encounter the restriction it causes. But every once in a while it does and there's not much you can do about it but wait it out.

That's true.
Although this shall be criticism because if I get bot-restricted for loading my inventory few times in one day, and not doing a single trade that day, then I think it's too far.

Define "few". I'm checking my inventory a few times in a day and not encountering a restriction. It's got to be more than just a "few". Either that or you have an inventory plugin that is hammering away on the inventory.

[Dom]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von rawWwRrr:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dom:

That's true.
Although this shall be criticism because if I get bot-restricted for loading my inventory few times in one day, and not doing a single trade that day, then I think it's too far.

Define "few". I'm checking my inventory a few times in a day and not encountering a restriction. It's got to be more than just a "few". Either that or you have an inventory plugin that is hammering away on the inventory.

Literally few. I don't have any inventory plugin(s), nor did I trade today at all.

[nullable]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dom:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

You want it to be discriminatory though. It won't be.

:summercat2023:

It's not discriminatory if anti-bot measures target bots. Bots are not people, so I don't think you can actively discriminate against them.

Discriminate might not mean what you think it means given the context Hotsauce was using it and how you're arguing against it. You should really double check the dictionary for some alternate definitions.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/discriminate

The current restriction affects all user accounts equally, and regardless of what you attribute it being put into place for it affects all user accounts equally. You want the restriction to make a distinction, IE discriminate, between bots and people, and that doesn't seem likely to occur.

The system has limits, those limits may change in the future. But for now you're going to have to learn to live within them.

[Knut]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von rawWwRrr:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dom:

That's true.
Although this shall be criticism because if I get bot-restricted for loading my inventory few times in one day, and not doing a single trade that day, then I think it's too far.

Define "few". I'm checking my inventory a few times in a day and not encountering a restriction. It's got to be more than just a "few". Either that or you have an inventory plugin that is hammering away on the inventory.

Should the amount of trades or inventory refreshes done in a day really matter though? I get that Steam has a big bot problem and it's slowly killing their servers but surely smacking dead anyones ip who request access one to many times isn't the right solution and it's not like you can't access it for 5 minutes, For me it's a week atleast.

I mean holy shiz how about google? They must recieve billions of requests every day and as far as i know there's no issue there. And although i hate Captcha and i'm pretty sure they have it on browser why isn't that doing any good. There must be a better way to handle this issue. Half this year i haven't been able to access my inventory or the market. Steam is just a money grubby co*k who can't spend more than 5 dollars on servers and Valve reinvests their earnings to Gabens McDonalds. Rant over