安装 Steam
登录
|
语言
繁體中文（繁体中文）
日本語（日语）
한국어（韩语）
ไทย（泰语）
български（保加利亚语）
Čeština（捷克语）
Dansk（丹麦语）
Deutsch（德语）
English（英语）
Español-España（西班牙语 - 西班牙）
Español - Latinoamérica（西班牙语 - 拉丁美洲）
Ελληνικά（希腊语）
Français（法语）
Italiano（意大利语）
Bahasa Indonesia（印度尼西亚语）
Magyar（匈牙利语）
Nederlands（荷兰语）
Norsk（挪威语）
Polski（波兰语）
Português（葡萄牙语 - 葡萄牙）
Português-Brasil（葡萄牙语 - 巴西）
Română（罗马尼亚语）
Русский（俄语）
Suomi（芬兰语）
Svenska（瑞典语）
Türkçe（土耳其语）
Tiếng Việt（越南语）
Українська（乌克兰语）
报告翻译问题
此主题已被锁定 
讨论规则及指引
举报此帖
Because that's just spreading misinformation.
what for misinformation this misinformation is givin non legal way I won't listen about ways what is illigal or violated the terms
It's not illegal or a violation to the terms to buy (neither activate) a key or get a gift of a restricted game.
Except a few special cases which can't be activated even with VPN.
Yes, and it's about the special cases that are not permitted in Germany And further, it's not about the keys here, which is why I won't go into it any further
BTW, you have already provided Valve with your name and address for the invoices. So is ID really a big deal to you? Probably only if you have something to hide.
It seems you have the wrong idea about it. You should rather compare it to a visit to a disco or something. A bouncer outside asks for your ID, you show it to him, he lets you in. That doesn't sound that complicated, does it? Nobody will verify anything or store your personal data. They will just unlock the account for the restricted area and that's it.
For gifts you need someone you can trust very well because you have to send them the money first. You found one, fine, but not everyone has a person like that. And you wouldn't just send 60€ to a complete stranger, would you?
In addition, this person must be in the same currency region. Gifts from the USA, for instance, are no longer possible. From Asia or South America this has never been possible anyway. So in this specific case, the donor must preferably be somewhere in the EU.
And as for the keys. You want an example. Here comes one - "Dying Light". The second part is available on Steam for whatever reason.
In order to activate a key, you have to buy it first, right? And of course you should buy it from an official reseller and not on the gray market with unknown origin.
So let's visit one of the famous resellers - HumbleBundle. You visit the website, type in the name of the game and guess what? Nothing comes. No problem. You use Google & Co. and find the page with the game there. But what comes when you click the link? Right! "The game is not available for purchase in your country".
OK. You visit another famous reseller - Fanatical. The same procedure. The same result - "Will not activate in Germany" with no "Purchase" button.
And so on. You can't even buy a key legally. And even if you manage to get a key, there is absolutely no guarantee that it will work, because the situation often changes. Both Dying Light Enhanced Edition (Sub ID: 88801) and Dying Light Definitive Edition (Sub ID: 633707) have recent restrictions - "This package can NOT be activated or purchased in specified countries: ...", and Germany is also on that list. Maybe it worked in the past, but now it's definitely uncertain. And that means risk.
German users can't even visit the Community Hub of such games anymore, which was possible just a short time ago. And as you mentioned yourself, there are still games that can't be gifted or activated with keys at all. So what about them? Just do without them even though it's legal to have them?
Anyway, your suggestions with gifts and keys are not as easy as you think. And they're not for everyone either. There's just too much risk involved. The solution with a simple one-time age verification will certainly cause a lot less headache and stress.
I don't think it's easy, I KNOW it's easy... never had a problem so far to get the games I want. ¯\_
Then this thread is not for you.
But we're not talking about non-restricted games.
It's a public forum and no echo-chamber so you leave it to me in which topic I participate, no
No. No one will EVER get my ID to access a website. A few months ago I tried to buy a $25 piece of plastic for my car and because I was using a VPN they demanded a copy of my ID. I told them to go F themselves if they are so worried about fraud on a $25 piece of plastic.
The fact that you think this is normal and OK explains why you think every other invasive and grasping law your country comes up with is reasonable. Those are not reasonable laws. It seems that Germans simply enjoy being micromanaged and told what to do.
You know what happens here in the US when states pass these stupid laws?
Companies stop serving those states.
Examples: Utah and West Virginia have both been dropped by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Now people in those states cant use the site at all. Problem solved, children protected and adults get no wank material.
It all comes down to how important your market is to the business and if they can live without you. Im willing to bet that Valve can live without Germany and its stupid laws. Would they prefer to take your money? Of course...but your country is getting close to making it NOT WORTH serving you any longer because you push ridiculous and cumbersome precedents.
Most of us have access to digital IDs, and there are several apps and services that are supported by the government. It literally takes a single NFC scan on a phone to get it done. All you have to do is tap into that.
You've built an entire, separate infrastructure just for Chinese users, and you're telling me you can't give German users a simple age check?
Come on...
https://usk.de/en/home/obligations-for-content-providers/
Even on the basic level, every single game needs to be registered with the USK labeling (which is probably not free). That's a lot of games that would need to be registered.
And even there, submitting your game to be registered does not automatically make it approved, they can reject games...
And then if steam provides even a single image, of something adult, to a minor, as the distributor, they can be fined up to 500,000 euros.
Legally, they are obligated to do so. And I think that's correct. Minors should be protected.
That said, it would be much easier to just not sell adult content to people from Germany
...which is apparently the direction they went: https://www.theouterhaven.net/2020/12/steam-region-blocks-adult-only-games-in-germany/
Definitely seems like Germany wrote a law that can't realistically be complied with for an international company, such as steam. It may even be intentionally so, as steam's profits really don't benefit Germany in the slightest.
Germany is a democracy, right? Vote to change it, if you think it's a problem. Honestly, seems like a good law for Germany. Sounds like they're looking out for you.