habbymeal 2022 年 12 月 20 日 下午 2:55
Tell me if my computer meets base requirements for a game
I don't have a gaming computer. I have had multiple experiences where I think a game looks cool and I buy it, only to realize that my computer doesn't meet the base specs to play it, so i have to return it. I think it would be cool if Steam had a way for me to input my computer's specs (like CPU, GPU, and RAM) and have it tell me if I meet the base requirements for a game I am looking at. It would also be cool if I could filter my store searches based on what my computer can run. That way, Steam gets more purchases from me that I don't have to return, and I have an easier time buying!
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50km/hPeak@hotmilfs.♥♥♥ 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 3:32 
Support
Steam should have a place where you can only ser games that you're pc runs and supports cuz im rocking a old pc and its hard to find games that work on it
FOXDUDE69 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 3:38 
引用自 Nx Machina
The reason there is no "will it run on MY device" is liability - the fact that someone is legally responsible for something

Disclaimers negate this argument.
Wolf Knight 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 4:03 
not going to happen. microsoft tried to do what you are suggesting and they gave up on it. computers have too many parts that can exist in too many combinations.

there are risks involved

1. if steam says a game will run and it doesnt, that is false advertising and lands then in legal trouble

2. if steam says a game wont run and it does, then they just costed a game developer a sale and a possible lawsuit from that developer/publisher
Brian9824 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 4:15 
引用自 SHOTGUN KING
引用自 Nx Machina
The reason there is no "will it run on MY device" is liability - the fact that someone is legally responsible for something

Disclaimers negate this argument.

Not really, disclaimers aren't a magic do whatever you want clause. You can't make a business and have a disclaimer that says "oh you might buy our product and it won't work"

It creates a legal burden on Steam as if they advertise a game as working and it doesn't work that can be a textbook case of false advertisement which is illegal, and a disclaimer cannot protect a company from illegal activities.

Of course that's just one example of a potential lawsuit. It's alot of issues with very little benefit, not to mention as repeatedly pointed out most developers don't provide enough info on their requirements for steam to reliably make a determination
Nx Machina 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 4:19 
引用自 SHOTGUN KING
Disclaimers negate this argument.

Incorrect FD as Valve, CDPR nor Epic will not post a disclaimer for "3rd party games" after all they do not own the copyright etc to said games nor even have a say in the Eula, nor will commit to a "3rd party game" running on "your" PC. On the other hand they can have a disclaimer for their own games BUT neither Vale, CDPR or Epic provide a "will it run on my PC tool" for 3rd party games nor their own.

What is Liability?

Liability is something you are responsible for, whether as an individual or an organisation.

What is a Website Disclaimer?

A disclaimer is a notice which is placed on your website in an "effort to limit your liability" for the outcome of the use of your site.

While a disclaimer certainly "can’t rule out the possibility of legal action" taking place at some point in the future, it can go a long way toward protecting your best interests, "BUT" even if you make every effort to confirm the accuracy of the information you have placed on your site, it is always possible that some of the information on your pages may be inaccurate.

If a website user can prove that this incorrect information has harmed them in some way, you can potentially be found liable in court.

Lets not forget FD you are browsing the Steam store as a website even via the client.
最後修改者:Nx Machina; 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 4:45
Start_Running 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 4:27 
引用自 SHOTGUN KING
引用自 Nx Machina
The reason there is no "will it run on MY device" is liability - the fact that someone is legally responsible for something

Disclaimers negate this argument.
That only addresses the rather miniscule liability to the buyer. The real issue is the liability to the publishers. Basically. Once Valve starts even making a suggestion that x game will or won't run on a system they affect the publisher's sales and all the publisher has to do ia show that the system has been inaccurate at least once. and you're talking a label tampering lawsuit right there. Their liability to the consumer is limited to the purchase price of the game. Their liability tyo the publisher in the case of proven label tampering can be in the thousands to hundreds of thousands. PER publisher. PER game.

This is why literally No store does this sort of thing or even affiliates with sites that do.
Even Microsoft couldn't get such a thing to work with reasonable success rates. And when you add to the fact that publishers would be highly incentivised to game the system.
Pscht 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 4:31 
Users should be forced to search the forums before/instead of making the nth thread about something.
Yzal 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 4:36 
引用自 50km/hPeak@hotmilfs.♥♥♥
Steam should have a place where you can only ser games that you're pc runs and supports cuz im rocking a old pc and its hard to find games that work on it
People can have multiple PCs you knows. Or they can willingly buy games that they can't currently play because they're about to upgrade and the game happened to be on sale.

We don't need arbitrary limits just because a few people want to pc game but can't be bothered to learn the basics.
最後修改者:Yzal; 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 4:36
HikariLight 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 5:14 
引用自 50km/hPeak@hotmilfs.♥♥♥
Steam should have a place where you can only ser games that you're pc runs and supports cuz im rocking a old pc and its hard to find games that work on it
This is why towards the bottom of the games store page it has the minimum and recommend system requirements. It is up to the customer to ensure their system meets those requirements before purchase.
Supafly 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 5:19 
Can you answer what does a games minimum and recommended requirements actually mean? By that I mean does minimum/recommended mean

It loads
640 x 480 low settings 30 fps with dips to 12fps
640 x 480 low settings 30 fps stable
640 x 480 low settings 60 fps with dips to 31fps
640 x 480 low settings 60 fps stable
720p low settings 30 fps with dips to 12fps
720p low settings 30 fps stable
720p low settings 60 fps with dips to 31fps
720p low settings 60 fps stable
1080p low settings 30 fps with dips to 12fps
1080p low settings 30 fps stable
1080p low settings 60 fps with dips to 31fps
1080p low settings 60 fps stable
640 x 480 medium settings 30 fps with dips to 12fps
640 x 480 medium settings 30 fps stable
640 x 480 medium settings 60 fps with dips to 31fps
640 x 480 medium settings 60 fps stable
720p medium settings 30 fps with dips to 12fps
720p medium settings 30 fps stable
720p medium settings 60 fps with dips to 31fps
720p medium settings 60 fps stable
1080p medium settings 30 fps with dips to 12fps
1080p medium settings 30 fps stable
1080p medium settings 60 fps with dips to 31fps
1080p medium settings 60 fps stable
640 x 480 high settings 30 fps with dips to 12fps
640 x 480 high settings 30 fps stable
640 x 480 high settings 60 fps with dips to 31fps
640 x 480 high settings 60 fps stable
720p high settings 30 fps with dips to 12fps
720p high settings 30 fps stable
720p high settings 60 fps with dips to 31fps
720p high settings 60 fps stable
1080p high settings 30 fps with dips to 12fps
1080p high settings 30 fps stable
1080p high settings 60 fps with dips to 31fps
1080p high settings 60 fps stable
640 x 480 highest settings 30 fps with dips to 12fps
640 x 480 highest settings 30 fps stable
640 x 480 highest settings 60 fps with dips to 31fps
640 x 480 highest settings 60 fps stable
720p highest settings 30 fps with dips to 12fps
720p highest settings 30 fps stable
720p highest settings 60 fps with dips to 31fps
720p highest settings 60 fps stable
1080p highest settings 30 fps with dips to 12fps
1080p highest settings 30 fps stable
1080p highest settings 60 fps with dips to 31fps
1080p highest settings 60 fps stable

Then include types of sync'ing, DLSS/AMDs version (FSR?) and any thing not referenced

Game devs and publishers can't even stick to the same criteria for their OWN games. Dev ABC releases game 1 and minimum means
640 x 480 low settings 30 fps with dips to 12fps

but game 2 means
720p medium settings 30 fps stable

How can Steam even consider creating something when devs and pubs can't stick to the same criteria of what they mean? Even if Devs\Pubsstuck to the same thing for their own products you'd still need to get EVERY Dev/Pub to stick to the same criteria.
Nx Machina 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 5:33 
引用自 Start_Running
引用自 Nx Machina

It was explained in post #33 but if you want the shortened version:

A disclaimer is a notice which is placed on your website in an "effort to limit your liability" for the outcome of the use of your site.
Yup. And there's a limit to what you can disclaim away. . YOu cannot disclaim away things that are due to gross negligence, incompetence, or malicious behaviour.

Thanks for quoting. Was on mobile deleted in error.
FOXDUDE69 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 5:33 
引用自 brian9824
Clearly you don't know, otherwise you'd know it doesn't absolve a company of deceptive practices.

Nothing deceptive about the suggestion. This is a benign idea meant to help the more casual crowd. Disclaimers are meant precisely for things like these, lol.

Liability is only an issue here in someone's imagination.
Nx Machina 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 5:37 
引用自 SHOTGUN KING
Liability is only an issue here in someone's imagination.

Incorrect as was previously explained on post #33.

The two most important:

1) A disclaimer is a notice which is placed on your website in an "effort to limit your LIABILITY" for the outcome of the use of your site.

2) If a website user can prove that this incorrect information has harmed them in some way, you can potentially be found "LIABLE" in court.
最後修改者:Nx Machina; 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 5:53
Mad Scientist 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 5:43 
The problem with casual crowds is they don't understand the potential impact of any one given part, the settings, or other issues.

You'd need a competent and hardware-thorough individual that could make such a tool look for anything detrimental to performance, including running&background apps, which inevitable part of said casual crowd would complain of being overly intrusive/"spying" on the user. Hardware performance expectations are one thing, the power available to them is another, as is system bios settings & OS settings.

People think that just some hardware being listed magically would mean a "canirunit" style tool would have accuracy. Some games also have specific detrimental performance hits based upon users configuration, running tasks & background tasks which change it from tolerable to intolerable, crash prone, and BSOD prone. This, is the sort of stuff why Valve most likely wants nothing to do with a tool thus far.

Casual crowds already use and are familiar with search engines, either they figure that out or they cause their own issues by failing to look before leaping. Anyone can put cpu, gpu and game name in YT for general estimates of performance but those may easily not align with the reality of aforementioned things that can wildly affect performance.

Never replace competent techs experiences with wishful thinking.
Brian9824 2022 年 12 月 22 日 上午 5:54 
引用自 SHOTGUN KING
引用自 brian9824
Clearly you don't know, otherwise you'd know it doesn't absolve a company of deceptive practices.

Nothing deceptive about the suggestion. This is a benign idea meant to help the more casual crowd. Disclaimers are meant precisely for things like these, lol.

Liability is only an issue here in someone's imagination.

You've clearly never operated a business before. If Steam displays that a game will run they assume liability, they can't just put a disclaimer saying their info might not be right, they have to have taken reasonable steps to ensure its accurate
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