Block reviews for people that played game only during free weekend?

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Aver 2016年8月6日 13時59分

Maybe it's a good idea to block writing reviews for people that didn't buy a game, but played it only during the free weekend? I see that Mordheim had very positive reviews in the past, but recent reviews are negative. Most of the people that wrote bad reviews recently, had stated that they have played it during the Free Weekend and their reasons sound like they don't like those types of games anyways: "too slow, too hard...". Thanks to the Free Weekend, Mordheim's rating will drop drastically, because of the people that don't like those types of games, tried it just because it was free.

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Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder 2016年8月6日 14時38分

Aver の投稿を引用：
Maybe it's a good idea to block writing reviews for people that didn't buy a game, but played it only during the free weekend? I see that Mordheim had very positive reviews in the past, but recent reviews are negative. Most of the people that wrote bad reviews recently, had stated that they have played it during the Free Weekend and their reasons sound like they don't like those types of games anyways: "too slow, too hard...". Thanks to the Free Weekend, Mordheim's rating will drop drastically, because of the people that don't like those types of games, tried it just because it was free.

1) This would be tough to police. If you were given a game by a friend would you not be allowed to review it ? How could you check that a key had been bought and not given ?

2) The specific criticism that the game is unforgivingly difficult appears in positive reviews too.

3) It might have gone the other way although people who load up a game for free are less likely to be aficianados of a genre than people who have paid for it.

The free weekend will have done its job. It's raised the game's profile, and those who loved the game will have bought it or flagged it for later purchase.

Trying to control reviews beyond one per owner of the game is too difficult to police and akin to censorship.

S.x.

shiel 2016年8月6日 14時44分

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Aver の投稿を引用：
Maybe it's a good idea to block writing reviews for people that didn't buy a game, but played it only during the free weekend? I see that Mordheim had very positive reviews in the past, but recent reviews are negative. Most of the people that wrote bad reviews recently, had stated that they have played it during the Free Weekend and their reasons sound like they don't like those types of games anyways: "too slow, too hard...". Thanks to the Free Weekend, Mordheim's rating will drop drastically, because of the people that don't like those types of games, tried it just because it was free.

1) This would be tough to police. If you were given a game by a friend would you not be allowed to review it ? How could you check that a key had been bought and not given ?

2) The specific criticism that the game is unforgivingly difficult appears in positive reviews too.

3) It might have gone the other way although people who load up a game for free are less likely to be aficianados of a genre than people who have paid for it.

The free weekend will have done its job. It's raised the game's profile, and those who loved the game will have bought it or flagged it for later purchase.

Trying to control reviews beyond one per owner of the game is too difficult to police and akin to censorship.

S.x.

OP is specifically talking about free weekends.

Start_Running 2016年8月6日 14時56分

Aver の投稿を引用：
Maybe it's a good idea to block writing reviews for people that didn't buy a game, but played it only during the free weekend? I see that Mordheim had very positive reviews in the past, but recent reviews are negative. Most of the people that wrote bad reviews recently, had stated that they have played it during the Free Weekend and their reasons sound like they don't like those types of games anyways: "too slow, too hard...". Thanks to the Free Weekend, Mordheim's rating will drop drastically, because of the people that don't like those types of games, tried it just because it was free.

OP. Are you daft or are you just 5 years old? Seriously.
Believe it or not, they have as much right to review the game as anyone else and just not their sort of game is a valid comment on the game. You want to change this just because a game you like is getting some bad reviews? Suck it up. Not everyone is obligated to love the things you like. Mordheim is a big boy, it can handle itself.

You on the other han should have biggerconcerns than whether a game you like got a few bad reviews.

Aver 2016年8月6日 15時18分

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OP. Are you daft or are you just 5 years old? Seriously.

Usually, I don't reply to people that start their posts with insulting someone, but I will give you benefit of doubt that you are only like that on the Internet, and that in the real life you are actually a civil person.

Start_Running の投稿を引用：
You want to change this just because a game you like is getting some bad reviews? Suck it up. Not everyone is obligated to love the things you like. Mordheim is a big boy, it can handle itself.

You on the other han should have biggerconcerns than whether a game you like got a few bad reviews.

I don't like this game. Well, I don't know if I like this game or not, because I don't own it. I was curious about this game and I saw that it has quite good reviews, but recent reveiws are mostly negative. I started wondering why? Maybe it received really bad patch, became unplayable or devs introduced microtransaction? Nope, it's just the free weekend and there are plenty of negative reviews by people with less than 1h on the record.

最近の変更はAverが行いました; 2016年8月6日 15時18分

Start_Running 2016年8月6日 15時40分

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Start_Running の投稿を引用：
OP. Are you daft or are you just 5 years old? Seriously.

Usually, I don't reply to people that start their posts with insulting someone, but I will give you benefit of doubt that you are only like that on the Internet, and that in the real life you are actually a civil person.

Sorry to disappoint you but when faced with such an affront to logic I'm pretty much the same RL.

I don't like this game. Well, I don't know if I like this game or not, because I don't own it. I was curious about this game and I saw that it has quite good reviews, but recent reveiws are mostly negative. I started wondering why? Maybe it received really bad patch, became unplayable or devs introduced microtransaction? Nope, it's just the free weekend and there are plenty of negative reviews by people with less than 1h on the record.

So, you're saying that because the feree weekend allows people who might niot otherwise tried the game a chance to try it , you think these people should not beable to voice their opinions, especially when tgheir opinions are likely the most telling of all. If you can dislike something you got for free...

Maybe I was a little harsh. but seriously, Think . ANyone who has experienced the full game through steam for more than 5 minuites has just as much right to review the game as anyone else.

shiel 2016年8月6日 15時51分

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Usually, I don't reply to people that start their posts with insulting someone, but I will give you benefit of doubt that you are only like that on the Internet, and that in the real life you are actually a civil person.

Sorry to disappoint you but when faced with such an affront to logic I'm pretty much the same RL.

I don't like this game. Well, I don't know if I like this game or not, because I don't own it. I was curious about this game and I saw that it has quite good reviews, but recent reveiws are mostly negative. I started wondering why? Maybe it received really bad patch, became unplayable or devs introduced microtransaction? Nope, it's just the free weekend and there are plenty of negative reviews by people with less than 1h on the record.

So, you're saying that because the feree weekend allows people who might niot otherwise tried the game a chance to try it , you think these people should not beable to voice their opinions, especially when tgheir opinions are likely the most telling of all. If you can dislike something you got for free...

Maybe I was a little harsh. but seriously, Think . ANyone who has experienced the full game through steam for more than 5 minuites has just as much right to review the game as anyone else.

To be fair, the first negative review I read gave it a bad score because the free weekend didn't include all dlc and quit before even playing a single match/round/whatever.

At the end of the day though, Steam reviews aren't worth the bytes of data they take up on Steams servers. They are 90% people attempting to be funny, 5% people blindly bashing a game based on the dev/subject matter/etc, and 5% legit reviews.

Start_Running 2016年8月6日 16時00分

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Sorry to disappoint you but when faced with such an affront to logic I'm pretty much the same RL.

So, you're saying that because the feree weekend allows people who might niot otherwise tried the game a chance to try it , you think these people should not beable to voice their opinions, especially when tgheir opinions are likely the most telling of all. If you can dislike something you got for free...

Maybe I was a little harsh. but seriously, Think . ANyone who has experienced the full game through steam for more than 5 minuites has just as much right to review the game as anyone else.
To be fair, the first negative review I read gave it a bad score because the free weekend didn't include all dlc and quit before even playing a single match/round/whatever.

At the end of the day though, Steam reviews aren't worth the bytes of data they take up on Steams servers. They are 90% people attempting to be funny, 5% people blindly bashing a game based on the dev/subject matter/etc, and 5% legit reviews.

That's pretty much what happens when you give consumers a voice. And on the other side of the spectrum you have biased and very bribeable pro critics.

Darren 2016年8月6日 17時31分

I purchased the game (pretty close to launch actually), and I do have to agree it can be quite daunting to get into a game like Mordheim, the difficulty curve ramps up extremely quickly. I would imagine there are a lot of people who wouldn't enjoy it that do enjoy other tactical games. Take the reviews in the spirit they are offered pointing out the difficulty curve is very high so if you aren't interested in a game like that don't purchase it.

Start_Running 2016年8月6日 17時39分

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I purchased the game (pretty close to launch actually), and I do have to agree it can be quite daunting to get into a game like Mordheim, the difficulty curve ramps up extremely quickly. I would imagine there are a lot of people who wouldn't enjoy it that do enjoy other tactical games. Take the reviews in the spirit they are offered pointing out the difficulty curve is very high so if you aren't interested in a game like that don't purchase it.

And while that may be a negative for some people for the intended audience of the game that's probabluy a selling point.

The Rock God 2016年8月6日 19時31分

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I don't like this game. Well, I don't know if I like this game or not, because I don't own it. I was curious about this game and I saw that it has quite good reviews, but recent reveiws are mostly negative. I started wondering why? Maybe it received really bad patch, became unplayable or devs introduced microtransaction? Nope, it's just the free weekend and there are plenty of negative reviews by people with less than 1h on the record.

I thought the problem was reviewing on a free weekend. You're now making it sound like your complaint is a review after only an hour. Which is it? If someone bought the game, played if for less than an hour, and gave it a bad review that's perfectly fine? But if someone plays it for 40 hours during a free weekend whatever they think of the game should be discounted?
I seriously doubt you'd be here complaining about a review that said they played it during the free weekend, think it's the greatest thing they've ever played, and are planning to buy it as soon as they have enough money to do so.

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pasa 2016年8月6日 20時03分

LOL, maybe the title should be improved to like 'Block negative reviews on a game I like' or the more general 'Block reviews that not match my opinion'.

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Aver 2016年8月6日 23時22分

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LOL, maybe the title should be improved to like 'Block negative reviews on a game I like' or the more general 'Block reviews that not match my opinion'.

As I stated before. I don't own nor like the game. So it's not about my opinion.

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pasa 2016年8月7日 2時52分

Well, you still didn't justify why the reviews must have the 'sunken cost fallacy' weight in as a mandatory requirement. Also following the logic, the free to play games should have no reviews at all?

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Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder 2016年8月7日 8時06分

I disagee with the OP but some of the comments have been unnecessarily harsh. He has a point that people playing on a free weekend MAY be less positively pre-selected as a review group than people who have bought the game. Still if they've played it they're entitled to review it IMHO. As I said before it's noteworthy that positive and negative reviews highlight certain issues.

S.x.

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