Steam Achievements Scoring System

[Flaak]

Was thinking it would be cool if steam created a scoring system for achievements. It doesnt need anything from devs as it can just base it off of % earned by players. Such as any achievement where only 1% or under of players have it can be top tier. Something that players can opt in and out of as some obviously built profiles out of 5 minute 10k achievement games but for people like me who like to chase hard achievements it would give me more to do :D

[HikariLight]

Achievements are already for bragging rights as they already tell you the % of players who have what achievement.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by Flaak:

Was thinking it would be cool if steam created a scoring system for achievements. It doesnt need anything from devs as it can just base it off of % earned by players.

Which would basically make it meaningless since your score would regardless of what you do, be shifting from day to day. Might as well just use an RNG.

Originally posted by Flaak:

Such as any achievement where only 1% or under of players have it can be top tier. Something that players can opt in and out of as some obviously built profiles out of 5 minute 10k achievement games but for people like me who like to chase hard achievements it would give me more to do :D

So basically ♥♥♥♥♥ games with few players would have an edge over genuinely decent games because people actuallyu play and get the achievements in those games where as the crap games the cheevos are rare because the game is so crap hardly anyone plays long enough to see the cheevo.

Sorry m8. Generally speaking, if the achievement itself has no intrinsic value to you, no one's going to bribe you to get it with points or anything else.

[Flaak]

Originally posted by HikariLight:

Achievements are already for bragging rights as they already tell you the % of players who have what achievement.

Yes but you have to actually look into the players profile. When if this scoring system is implemented it would be weighted by rarity. So if someone has 100k achievements but a score of 15k achievements and another person has 500 achievements but a score of 15k than clearly the person who did 100k achievements played stupid games.

[Flaak]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Originally posted by Flaak:

Was thinking it would be cool if steam created a scoring system for achievements. It doesnt need anything from devs as it can just base it off of % earned by players.

Which would basically make it meaningless since your score would regardless of what you do, be shifting from day to day. Might as well just use an RNG.

Originally posted by Flaak:

Such as any achievement where only 1% or under of players have it can be top tier. Something that players can opt in and out of as some obviously built profiles out of 5 minute 10k achievement games but for people like me who like to chase hard achievements it would give me more to do :D

So basically ♥♥♥♥♥ games with few players would have an edge over genuinely decent games because people actuallyu play and get the achievements in those games where as the crap games the cheevos are rare because the game is so crap hardly anyone plays long enough to see the cheevo.

Sorry m8. Generally speaking, if the achievement itself has no intrinsic value to you, no one's going to bribe you to get it with points or anything else.

Bring on the wombats who have to argue with you right away instead of trying to understand. So tired of trolls like you every damn place on this earth nowaday. Nothing better to do than talk negatively all the time.

Secondly youre entirely wrong. Games that nobody plays would weigh into it because playing a game that nobody cares about and that only few people have earned does earn you more biscuit points.

You telling me

"Sorry m8. Generally speaking, if the achievement itself has no intrinsic value to you, no one's going to bribe you to get it with points or anything else."

LITERALLY Telling me that playstation doesnt do anything for players who care about achievements but making platinums gold bronze and silver trophies? So tell that to their successful system. Although implemented horrible on peoples profiles which dont interact ever.
This right here goes to show how stupid you are and condescending. Acting like i should care about achievements in my own value just dumbing down my ideals.

And the reality is its already done but here you are preaching to me about it not making sense and i should put value to achievements. Sorry sony making platinums silver bronze gold trophies was dumb trolooo.

[Flaak]

People usually play dumb games just to do some achievements so if the stupid game has achievements that rarely gets completed then yes it should count towards your score more than an achievement 90% of people have.

[Flaak]

There are also several other sites that track peoples "true skill" or "true score" so telling me people dont care about it is irrelevant. If steam implementing a very simple system and a couple cool new ways to update your achievement displays then steam would eliminate any competition mirror websites that try to show achievements better then steam. Pretty sure steam wouldnt want this.

[Flaak]

Also please dont reply if your profile is private. If your profile is private then KEEP TO YOURSELF about my discussion of profile related discussions. @running

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Flaak:

Also please dont reply if your profile is private. If your profile is private then KEEP TO YOURSELF about my discussion of profile related discussions. @running

His profile is friends only.

He can participate in any discussion he wishes.

[Flaak]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by Flaak:

Also please dont reply if your profile is private. If your profile is private then KEEP TO YOURSELF about my discussion of profile related discussions. @running

His profile is friends only.

He can participate in any discussion he wishes.

:qr:

Actually he should just shutup for the rest of his life. World doesnt need people like him. As for you, i would stop here.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Flaak:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

His profile is friends only.

He can participate in any discussion he wishes.

Actually he should just shutup for the rest of his life. World doesnt need people like him. As for you, i would stop here.

You don't need to threaten anyone who posts on a public forum nor do you need to be so rude towards another user.

If you don't like what they say, block them and move on.

Scoring achievements in the way you described should have an opt out option because i could care less to participate in such things.

[Flaak]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by Flaak:

Actually he should just shutup for the rest of his life. World doesnt need people like him. As for you, i would stop here.

You don't need to threaten anyone who posts on a public forum nor do you need to be so rude towards another user.

If you don't like what they say, block them and move on.

Scoring achievements in the way you described should have an opt out option because i could care less to participate in such things.

:qr:

Never made a threat? No, its my post. It is now here on my post. Its not a simple block and move on. They will continue to post and ruin my post. Therefor, will respond how i want as its my house.

You can opt out or just simply not care. If you really dont care than you wont notice the change.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by Flaak:

Bring on the wombats who have to argue with you right away instead of trying to understand. So tired of trolls like you every damn place on this earth nowaday. Nothing better to do than talk negatively all the time.

If you find them everywhere you go then maybe the problem is ye. Just pointing out the obvious holes in your idea.

Originally posted by Flaak:

Secondly youre entirely wrong. Games that nobody plays would weigh into it because playing a game that nobody cares about and that only few people have earned does earn you more biscuit points.

So where's the threshold. Either way you slice it you'd be punishing smaller niche games,

Originally posted by Flaak:

You telling me

"Sorry m8. Generally speaking, if the achievement itself has no intrinsic value to you, no one's going to bribe you to get it with points or anything else."

LITERALLY Telling me that playstation doesnt do anything for players who care about achievements but making platinums gold bronze and silver trophies? So tell that to their successful system. Although implemented horrible on peoples profiles which dont interact ever.
This right here goes to show how stupid you are and condescending. Acting like i should care about achievements in my own value just dumbing down my ideals.

It's successful you say? Yet many people don't care for it. All it seems to have done is create faux hunters who basically just want to see a pop-up window every few minutes rather than actually enjoying the challenge.

Originally posted by Flaak:

And the reality is its already done but here you are preaching to me about it not making sense and i should put value to achievements. Sorry sony making platinums silver bronze gold trophies was dumb trolooo.

Did it encourage developers to make more thoughtful, interesting, challenging achievments? Or did it just encourage devs to design cheevos the same way MMO quests are designed?

Better or worse is up for debate. But I think Achievements were better before achievements were a thing.

[Judgmental Amaterasu]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Originally posted by Flaak:

Bring on the wombats who have to argue with you right away instead of trying to understand. So tired of trolls like you every damn place on this earth nowaday. Nothing better to do than talk negatively all the time.

If you find them everywhere you go then maybe the problem is ye. Just pointing out the obvious holes in your idea.

Originally posted by Flaak:

Secondly youre entirely wrong. Games that nobody plays would weigh into it because playing a game that nobody cares about and that only few people have earned does earn you more biscuit points.

So where's the threshold. Either way you slice it you'd be punishing smaller niche games,

Originally posted by Flaak:

You telling me

"Sorry m8. Generally speaking, if the achievement itself has no intrinsic value to you, no one's going to bribe you to get it with points or anything else."

LITERALLY Telling me that playstation doesnt do anything for players who care about achievements but making platinums gold bronze and silver trophies? So tell that to their successful system. Although implemented horrible on peoples profiles which dont interact ever.
This right here goes to show how stupid you are and condescending. Acting like i should care about achievements in my own value just dumbing down my ideals.

It's successful you say? Yet many people don't care for it. All it seems to have done is create faux hunters who basically just want to see a pop-up window every few minutes rather than actually enjoying the challenge.

Originally posted by Flaak:

And the reality is its already done but here you are preaching to me about it not making sense and i should put value to achievements. Sorry sony making platinums silver bronze gold trophies was dumb trolooo.

Did it encourage developers to make more thoughtful, interesting, challenging achievments? Or did it just encourage devs to design cheevos the same way MMO quests are designed?

Better or worse is up for debate. But I think Achievements were better before achievements were a thing.

*completes tutorial* ACHIEVEMENT GET!! Such effort. Very imagine.

[Flaak]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Originally posted by Flaak:

Bring on the wombats who have to argue with you right away instead of trying to understand. So tired of trolls like you every damn place on this earth nowaday. Nothing better to do than talk negatively all the time.

If you find them everywhere you go then maybe the problem is ye. Just pointing out the obvious holes in your idea.

Originally posted by Flaak:

Secondly youre entirely wrong. Games that nobody plays would weigh into it because playing a game that nobody cares about and that only few people have earned does earn you more biscuit points.

So where's the threshold. Either way you slice it you'd be punishing smaller niche games,

Originally posted by Flaak:

You telling me

"Sorry m8. Generally speaking, if the achievement itself has no intrinsic value to you, no one's going to bribe you to get it with points or anything else."

LITERALLY Telling me that playstation doesnt do anything for players who care about achievements but making platinums gold bronze and silver trophies? So tell that to their successful system. Although implemented horrible on peoples profiles which dont interact ever.
This right here goes to show how stupid you are and condescending. Acting like i should care about achievements in my own value just dumbing down my ideals.

It's successful you say? Yet many people don't care for it. All it seems to have done is create faux hunters who basically just want to see a pop-up window every few minutes rather than actually enjoying the challenge.

Originally posted by Flaak:

And the reality is its already done but here you are preaching to me about it not making sense and i should put value to achievements. Sorry sony making platinums silver bronze gold trophies was dumb trolooo.

Did it encourage developers to make more thoughtful, interesting, challenging achievments? Or did it just encourage devs to design cheevos the same way MMO quests are designed?

Better or worse is up for debate. But I think Achievements were better before achievements were a thing.

Thats all I hear when someone begins to counter something. Even if its just because you wanna counter it. Blah blah if you always encounter it maybe its you. Or maybe the problem actually exist. Steam forum is full of trolls and everyone who comes up with anything people immediately argue against it.

Theres plenty of popular games where the achievements are very hard to get, what are you on? Some of my favorite games are the biggest grinds ever.

Lmao now you are talking about faux hunting. Bro I actually enjoy it for myself really so if I can see how many rare trophies as opposed to just a number im for it. I dont know what you mean about enjoying the game and just enjoying the challenge. Achievements are what creates a challenge to begin with. Without achievements to me a game is pointless to complete 100%. It is what drives me to collect all weapons for example. And in return I am rewarded with playing the game and collecting the weapons. So yeah id like the ones i spent 100 hours for to mean a little more than one i got in two seconds. Is this too much to ask for?

You are just stuck in the past and dont want things to evolve. Telling me you miss when they were achievements. Nintendo still doesnt do achievements. Playstation has no profile interaction whatsoever usually and theres no reason to care about trophies. Xbox is that and just garbage as a whole because it operates on windows. Xbox 360 was awesome when in games you can see profile score. People cares alot about achievements back then and they all became pointless when xbox one came out as they ruined the interaction.

Steam is the only place that actually does achievements right and you are complaining about how things were back in the day. Typical old timer. Doesnt even make sense as steams achievements are very limited too.

The scoring system wouldnt change how devs make their games or achievements bc they cant judge how many people will obtain a specific one. This system is just to tell the gamer how many hard achievements they earned at quick glance as opposed to easy ones.

[Crazy Tiger]

Valve can make the changes all they want to achievements, as long as they also implement an option to opt out of disable it. At least the notifications. Since consoles get referenced, those have that at least.