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On the other hand, someone an hour ago decided that reviving a 6 year old thread in this section was a good idea.
Its called common sense and actually using it.
Seems too many people lack it, to make simple judgements.
"Staff" as in Valve or mods or Steam support are not going to reply to this post. This is the USER discussion area. If you don't like users replying to you, then post your suggestion and unsubscribe or make a group/blog and post your ideas there.
The current situation is not the best, but there is no other situation that is better.
They already have a platform wide policy for necros. If its useful info its allowed, if its not its just spam and is not allowed.
Timer based flag is a dead topic because of the above.
Search timer is just as bad as the timer based flag. If I search for something and I am 1 second off that timer, it won't show for me... I post the message and get yelled at that I should have searched... the current search is bad enough as it is, this would just make it worse.
Basically you are stuck with your 4th option.
A 5th option would be for Valve to fix the search so that its better and can actually narrow down a search in a single section rather then just show you everything from every section that even comes slightly close. Actually only look in the section that people tell it to look into. If I am searching in the suggestions and ideas area, I don't need or want it to look in the Steam chat section.
Also do like search engines can with "" around words to say yes look for those other words but it MUST include the word in the quotes.
This too.
I never suggested that - just the reverse. Please don't Straw-Man my posts, It's very unhelpful.
Ok we're getting into a different topic now. Also unhelpful.
Please start another thread for general gripes about staff. I want to stay focused on the specific problem outlined in the OP.
Personally I don't really see an issue other than the paid mods locking threads without actually looking at what was posted. In general necros can be useful, especially when threads are made about something that finally gets implemented years later (example the latest additions to the block feature). I think it should be possible to still visit the old thread and then post about it to let people know.
The spammy necros often are just spam anyway, which would have been made elsewhere anyway.
Over and out
And they will tell you to post them here, because no Steam admin will take your e-mail and Steam support is support and billing issues only, they do not take suggestions.
The only place to make suggestions is this section here, the suggestions and ideas area.
And since you have already made a thread with the ideas, there is no reason to make yet another thread with the same suggestions in them.
A single warning is enough to get the point across but when they go through and give someone multiple warnings for 2 or 3 responses made in the same day, some of which were only a few weeks old, and may have been posted to somewhere like the "Off Topic" forum of all places... then yeah... people are going to start complaining that they're being set up for failure and that the system should be changed.
I for one don't even need auto-locking topics. I will just never bump a fairly old topic anymore, even if I believe my response is an extremely helpful contribution and not just sort of on-topic.
I will always just create a new topic instead now and that's entirely the fault of the new moderators.
This behavior screws over anyone who properly uses the SUBSCRIBE & UNSUBSCRIBE big grey button in the top right corner to manage notifications coming from old topics, and who may be subscribed to a topic entailing an issue that has not actually been resolved yet.
Sure, you can start a new topic and link to old relevant ones but everyone subscribed to the old relevant ones won't get notifications that there's new information on the issue now.
...well ...OH WELL! This is the world that the new moderators created.
And yes, some of the warnings that they give for "necros" actually are spam or of questionable relevance; -- sometimes users make mistakes. When you're heavy handed with them for small mistakes that aren't part of a rampant & consistent chain of spam, all you do is teach them bad habits that they know is the option that won't get them banned.
There's a big difference between responding to something that's 3 weeks old and still even appears on the forum directory, and bumping a 6 year old thread. But the current generation of moderators penalizes both of these actions exactly the same.
So maybe the users could use some better common sense ...but so could the mods.
This is a great way to punish users who are just trying to positively contribute.
Imagine you're not a frequenter of the forums, make a nice post, then you get a steam warning about getting banned if you do it again... or alternatively, some poster freaks out at you for doing so... and all you were doing is using the forum in the way that it was built and options available to you.
Rules without function change will only make others have a negative experience and in turn think negatively about Steam.
I totally agree with this!
I think the forums are a bit broken and need some major improvements. The "necroing" being one.
Personally, I'm not sure why AGE matters, especially in terms of suggestions or ideas. Wouldn't it make sense for everyone who approves of an idea to share said support in a single thread? Otherwise, you get commentary that is like a broken record and not a true sense of if something merits more discussion or not.
I think the locking of threads makes a lot of sense, but it should go further, so discovery of the same issues can be automatically put together (either manually by mod or user or automatically in the way you suggest).
The old thread should then say "thread has expired, click this button to make a follow up thread" or similar.
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...Or we can just accept that sometimes, regardless of the age of conversation, someone may have something of value to provide.
Seems like an anti pattern for an engaging community, really.
One friend tells me that they've gotten such a warning for responding to something that was 15 days old before.
This is absurd!
Another thing worth considering is the common sense issue that someone else pointed out.
The thing is, one doesn't need to be autistic to need clear communication in place where "common sense" might be a little lacking but considering that there's plenty of autistic people using this platform, it would certainly better support them in a more positive way.
I think that even some of the moderators could probably use more clear guidelines on how they should moderate because they might need some help with that too instead of just being expected to rely on this almost spiritual concept known as "common sense".