Steam needs some quality control

[Pierce Dalton]

I've seen some awful games here but this one takes the cake for now:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2084220/Invisible_Man_VR_In_Eleanors_room/


Seriously, what store would approve a game focused on raping? What the hell?

It looks like games are approved by an automated system that only scans for malware, nothing else. No virus? Good to go.

I can't help but wonder if GabeN would want stuff like this on Steam. I hope not.

How do I report this game to Valve?!

[Boblin the Goblin]

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This thread was literally only made after this game was shown in a separate thread.

He had no idea this game existed until then.

The store has quality control, since this game is properly rated as adult content, it meets those standards.

I'm aware, as I posted in that thread too. This thread was made as a "continuation" (because it's such a pressing issue) of it pretty much immediately after he started posting in the last one.

Oh, I'm not talking about the other one that mentions standards. There was one much before that.

This thread is very old, the one where he heard of the game for the first time is even older.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

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This thread was literally only made after this game was shown in a separate thread.

He had no idea this game existed until then.

The store has quality control, since this game is properly rated as adult content, it meets those standards.

I'm aware, as I posted in that thread too. This thread was made as a "continuation" (because it's such a pressing issue) of it pretty much immediately after he started posting in the last one.

Escrito originalmente por Pierce Dalton:

You're free to believe whatever you want, that makes zero difference to me as well. You think I'm trolling? Cool, I don't mind. I know I'm not.

When it comes to real life, sure, killing is worse than raping. We're talking about videogames, though, and killing is inherently connected to videogames, it's normal in the videogame universe. You gotta defeat enemies that pose a threat to you, that's what most games are about. Of course, you also have "pacific" genres like racing or whatever, but you simply cannot remove killing (or hurting) people from other genres, that's the very purpose of various games: to kill enemies.

Again, you're appealing to normalcy, which will never carry any weight to it, because normalcy has no relevance on morality. You are right in that killing is a part of video games and very common in it, but that is absolutely meaningless in relation to whether a game belongs on the store.

There are plenty of soccer moms, hardcore religious people and other idiots out there who want the "violent games" you play banned too. They'd certainly take exception to you making excuses for "repulsive" acts like that. The nebulous, single-issue mentality you have to seemingly *only* rape makes no sense.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2005/08/882/
Oh trust me, those literal people literally did try to storm Rockstars HQ, got literally tossed out by the single guard at the door, tried to sue them with help of Hillery Clintons child protection act, and all of it failed so badly and insultingly well that its become a meme that the Peacoholics with a presidential like star literally were unable to legally win with logic against video games

[K13Cove]

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I'm aware, as I posted in that thread too. This thread was made as a "continuation" (because it's such a pressing issue) of it pretty much immediately after he started posting in the last one.

Oh, I'm not talking about the other one that mentions standards. There was one much before that.

This thread is very old, the one where he heard of the game for the first time is even older.

This one?:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3377158861989164975/
I posted in it about 3 pages in. Don't tell me there's one even older than that complaining about the same game again, or I'll start thinking this is some sort of inside joke I was missing.

[Boblin the Goblin]

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Oh, I'm not talking about the other one that mentions standards. There was one much before that.

This thread is very old, the one where he heard of the game for the first time is even older.

This one?:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3377158861989164975/
I posted in it about 3 pages in. Don't tell me there's one even older than that complaining about the same game again, or I'll start thinking this is some sort of inside joke I was missing.

Oh wait, that is the one lol.

Yeah the exact logic used in this thread was used there. The same circles were also run.

[Pierce Dalton]

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Except, as explained, you are always kill enemies in GTA. You aren't killing enemies in games like Postal or Hatred.

There are plenty of games were killing literally innocent people is encouraged.

It isn't a defense of saying "Well, that's just how things are." because by that exact logic, this game being made by an Asian studio, this type of content is very normal in a lot of their indie games.

By that logic, there's nothing wrong.

Basically this, the fact that CoD MW2 has an extremely well known mission centered around this, and the more recent ones literally involve a terrorist assault on a city implies that assaulting people in video games is...honestly almost standard

I suppose you're talking about the "No Russian" level, but you're not forced to kill civilians, all the controversy around it always looked silly to me. You can just keep walking without shooting IIRC.

Anyway, this thread is not about COD or killing.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

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Basically this, the fact that CoD MW2 has an extremely well known mission centered around this, and the more recent ones literally involve a terrorist assault on a city implies that assaulting people in video games is...honestly almost standard

I suppose you're talking about the "No Russian" level, but you're not forced to kill civilians, all the controversy around it always looked silly to me. You can just keep walking without shooting IIRC.

Anyway, this thread is not about COD or killing.

True, back on topic then heh sorry. (And yes that is indeed the level)

[Pierce Dalton]

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It is interesting to note that Rape Day (not to be confused with RapeLay) was removed from Steam years ago. Can you see the discrepancy here?

Apparently, their "quality control" failed because in the past Valve removed another game centered around rape.

Have you actually read what Rape Day contains?

It isn't comparable to the game you're upset about at all lol. It's actually closer to RapeLay.

Sure, I've read it. IIRC it was an apocalyptic game in which the player could rape women. Steam removed the game.

It's kinda ironic that Invisible Man passed QC.

[Boblin the Goblin]

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Have you actually read what Rape Day contains?

It isn't comparable to the game you're upset about at all lol. It's actually closer to RapeLay.

Sure, I've read it. IIRC it was an apocalyptic game in which the player could rape women. Steam removed the game.

It's kinda ironic that Invisible Man passed QC.

So you haven't.

Good to know. If you had, you would know there is no comparison to this game.

Also, what happened to "It's just how it is." or does that only apply to American standards.

[Pierce Dalton]

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Sure, I've read it. IIRC it was an apocalyptic game in which the player could rape women. Steam removed the game.

It's kinda ironic that Invisible Man passed QC.

So you haven't.

Good to know. If you had, you would know there is no comparison to this game.

Also, what happened to "It's just how it is." or does that only apply to American standards.

I'm afraid you haven't:

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-47484397

The visual novel game - where you make choices on how a story develops - was due to be released later this year. It had been listed on the Steam website promising to let players "control the choices of a menacing serial killer rapist during a zombie apocalypse".

[Boblin the Goblin]

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So you haven't.

Good to know. If you had, you would know there is no comparison to this game.

Also, what happened to "It's just how it is." or does that only apply to American standards.

I'm afraid you haven't:

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-47484397

The visual novel game - where you make choices on how a story develops - was due to be released later this year. It had been listed on the Steam website promising to let players "control the choices of a menacing serial killer rapist during a zombie apocalypse".

Try the actual wiki for the game, not a BBC fluff-piece.

Again, it isn't comparable.

[Pierce Dalton]

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I'm afraid you haven't:

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-47484397

The visual novel game - where you make choices on how a story develops - was due to be released later this year. It had been listed on the Steam website promising to let players "control the choices of a menacing serial killer rapist during a zombie apocalypse".

Try the actual wiki for the game, not a BBC fluff-piece.

Again, it isn't comparable.

This?
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_Day

It just confirms BBC's fluff-piece.

[Boblin the Goblin]

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Try the actual wiki for the game, not a BBC fluff-piece.

Again, it isn't comparable.

This?
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_Day

It just confirms BBC's fluff-piece.

Wow, a fan wiki has more information on the game than both of those.

https://unpublished-villains.fandom.com/wiki/Boss_(Rape_Day)

Here. It actually goes into detail what the game would contain. It isn't even comparable to the game in the focus of this thread.

[Boblin the Goblin]

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Wow, a fan wiki has more information on the game than both of those.

https://unpublished-villains.fandom.com/wiki/Boss_(Rape_Day)

Here. It actually goes into detail what the game would contain. It isn't even comparable to the game in the focus of this thread.

Thank you, the link you provided also confirms BBC's article:

The Boss, controlled by the player, is the protagonist villain of the semi-published 2019 video game Rape Day. He is described as a "menacing serial killer rapist" who seeks to "verbally harass, kill, and rape women" as the player progresses throught the story. Although the player may choose to not have him rape or murder anyone, the game still encourages it greatly.
Rape Day is an extremely controversial 2019 indie video game that was announced on March of 2019 by Desk Plant. It was major news in the gaming community, and in countries where such material has unclear legality. People, including gamers, feminists, parents, and activists urgently called for the video game to be pulled. The game was pulled by Steam amidst the controversy. As the game was pulled, the developer, Desk Plant, published most of the video game online on torrent sites, although not all of it.

Unpublished Villainous Acts
The developer admitted to having had considered a scene where Boss punts an infant, and drowning it, and mutilating it.
Necrophilia and incest was also announced for the game, but no scenes in the published version explicitly depict such.
Various imagery from media outlets and developer screenshots depicts the Boss too committing villainous deeds that were not in the published version.
The Boss is shown in several screenshots to be in the grasp of a young woman on front of her mother in a dilapidated room with tile walls, with other screenshots in the same room showing Boss raping the two of them.

Goals
Rape and murder as many innocents possible during the zombie apocalypse
Help him and his friends survive the zombie apocalypse

As you can see, both Rape Day and Invisible Man encourage the player to rape, yet you were saying they're not comparable. Were you trying to say RD is worse? Sure, the player could even rape dead people. One would have to be mentally sick to develop or play a game like this. Invisible Man is not far from that, though: it gives you a handkerchief with chloroform, thus encouraging the player to rape an unconscious girl.

They still aren't comparable. Considering the content of both games and what is allowed.

To make them equal is the equivalent of saying GTA and Dusk are the same because you kill people.

[Pierce Dalton]

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Escrito originalmente por Pierce Dalton:

Thank you, the link you provided also confirms BBC's article:

The Boss, controlled by the player, is the protagonist villain of the semi-published 2019 video game Rape Day. He is described as a "menacing serial killer rapist" who seeks to "verbally harass, kill, and rape women" as the player progresses throught the story. Although the player may choose to not have him rape or murder anyone, the game still encourages it greatly.
Rape Day is an extremely controversial 2019 indie video game that was announced on March of 2019 by Desk Plant. It was major news in the gaming community, and in countries where such material has unclear legality. People, including gamers, feminists, parents, and activists urgently called for the video game to be pulled. The game was pulled by Steam amidst the controversy. As the game was pulled, the developer, Desk Plant, published most of the video game online on torrent sites, although not all of it.

Unpublished Villainous Acts
The developer admitted to having had considered a scene where Boss punts an infant, and drowning it, and mutilating it.
Necrophilia and incest was also announced for the game, but no scenes in the published version explicitly depict such.
Various imagery from media outlets and developer screenshots depicts the Boss too committing villainous deeds that were not in the published version.
The Boss is shown in several screenshots to be in the grasp of a young woman on front of her mother in a dilapidated room with tile walls, with other screenshots in the same room showing Boss raping the two of them.

Goals
Rape and murder as many innocents possible during the zombie apocalypse
Help him and his friends survive the zombie apocalypse

As you can see, both Rape Day and Invisible Man encourage the player to rape, yet you were saying they're not comparable. Were you trying to say RD is worse? Sure, the player could even rape dead people. One would have to be mentally sick to develop or play a game like this. Invisible Man is not far from that, though: it gives you a handkerchief with chloroform, thus encouraging the player to rape an unconscious girl.

They still aren't comparable. Considering the content of both games and what is allowed.

To make them equal is the equivalent of saying GTA and Dusk are the same because you kill people.

I didn't say they're equal, on the contrary: I just said RD is worse. Please, Kit, you need to pay more attention to conversations.

Still, both games let the player rape people, that's why they're comparable (not to be confused with equal). It doesn't take a genius to realize that Valve removed RD from the store because the game encourages the player to violate women - which also applies to Invisible Man.

[Boblin the Goblin]

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They still aren't comparable. Considering the content of both games and what is allowed.

To make them equal is the equivalent of saying GTA and Dusk are the same because you kill people.

I didn't say they're equal, on the contrary: I just said RD is worse. Please, Kit, you need to pay more attention to conversations.

Still, both games let the player rape people, that's why they're comparable (not to be confused with equal). It doesn't take a genius to realize that Valve removed RD from the store because the game encourages the player to violate women - which also applies to Invisible Man.

You are making them equal with your comparison.

Rape Day is comparable to RapeLay. Not Invisible Man.