Ban Ubisoft from Steam or update your ToS to explicitly forbid intentionally rendering software defective

[Zombie]

Just like the title says.

Remove Ubisoft from Steam until they can meet the bare minimum for delivering functional products. Refusing to maintain a dirt-cheap activation server or remove pointless online checks on 10+ year old single player games is ghoulish. They clearly sold products that were not fit for their advertised purpose, which is patently fraudulent.

If you won't stop Ubisoft from abusing your platform, you have no business selling games.

[Crystal Sharrd]

Eiswolfin님이 먼저 게시:

no154370님이 먼저 게시:

OP should stop pushing the blame to the Game Developers and the Company the Game Developers are working for

especially when the problem lies with OP himself.

OP got his Review for PayDay 2 here being removed and banned by a moderator for Violating the Steam Terms of Service

https://steamcommunity.com/id/notzombie/recommended/218620/

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OP fails to realize that "flaming and insulting" the Game Developers, the Publishers of the game and the Company that sells the games is................

Wait, are you implying that the OP is to blame for Ubisoft removing paid single player DLC from customers who bought them?

It's not just the DLC, either, by the way. Applicable games will also lose access to unlocked Uplay Rewards.

[IFIYGD]

Here's the thing... people are acting like this is the first time Ubi has done this. Like it's a new thing they are doing to screw over their customers.

It isn't.

They have been doing this at least 2013, according to their own list of decommissioned games.
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/help/article/multiplayer-and-online-services-availability-in-ubisoft-games/000064576

It's not like this was a closely guarded secret- there have been articles online, on Steam forums, and on social media about Ubisoft doing this for around a decade, if not longer.

But when Ubi puts out a new game that the Hype Train is rolling on- some people keep buying anyway. People keep buying the games despite being screwed over for a decade before- they will keep doing it, and Steam will keep selling the games, because Steam is a Store, and they will happily take their cut of the sales as long as people keep throwing money at Ubisoft games.

Stop buying the games- Ubi has been doing this to gamers for years. Don;t buy the next one, or the one after that, or the one after that.
"Hey- the last 10 hot dogs I bought from that street vendor gave me food poisoning. Maybe I shouldn't buy another one. Nah. They wouldn't poison me again, amirite?"

[Crazy Tiger]

IFIYGD님이 먼저 게시:

They have been doing this at least 2013, according to their own list of decommissioned games.
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/help/article/multiplayer-and-online-services-availability-in-ubisoft-games/000064576

Multiplayer servers, yes. Uplay content, sometimes. Paid single player DLC? That's a first now, as far as I remember

[[?]legit]

That's simply ridiculous, pretty sure ubisoft is testing us out. There has to be a proper response by Valve. If they get away with this, I wonder what's next?

[Mailer]

While the morally correct choice would be for Ubisoft to unlink their DLC from the server that got taken down (at the cost of everyone gaining access if need be, because that clearly does not matter to them anymore), it's also likelier that they'll just hide behind their Terms of Service at the end of this and do nothing, which would be a very sad outcome for old games.

[no154370]

legit님이 먼저 게시:

That's simply ridiculous, pretty sure ubisoft is testing us out. There has to be a proper response by Valve. If they get away with this, I wonder what's next?

Steam and Valve Corporation don't have the right to tell other gaming companies like Ubisoft on what to do at all.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

legit님이 먼저 게시:

That's simply ridiculous, pretty sure ubisoft is testing us out. There has to be a proper response by Valve. If they get away with this, I wonder what's next?

Slippery slope fallacy, however Valve/Steam doesn't really have any right to tell a Dev/store how to handle their product. You need to take the issue up at the source.

[IFIYGD]

Crazy Tiger님이 먼저 게시:

IFIYGD님이 먼저 게시:

They have been doing this at least 2013, according to their own list of decommissioned games.
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/help/article/multiplayer-and-online-services-availability-in-ubisoft-games/000064576

Multiplayer servers, yes. Uplay content, sometimes. Paid single player DLC? That's a first now, as far as I remember

And they will continue to escalate and add more content to the decommissioned list if people keep ignoring a decade's worth of history, and keep jumping on the Hype Train every time they put out a new heavily advertised "smash hit" game, and buying it and supporting the company's behavior with each purchase.
I despise Ubi- but some of the blame lays on the shoulders of those who have enabled their bad behavior for many years, and turned a blind eye to the increasingly bad behavior because "Good Gaem Must Have!".

[RiO]

<Insert Kazoo Circus Music Here>님이 먼저 게시:

legit님이 먼저 게시:

That's simply ridiculous, pretty sure ubisoft is testing us out. There has to be a proper response by Valve. If they get away with this, I wonder what's next?

Slippery slope fallacy, however Valve/Steam doesn't really have any right to tell a Dev/store how to handle their product. You need to take the issue up at the source.

The source in the case actually could be Steam. For those sales that were closed under the EU legal framework the liable party for non-conformance is the trader. And if we're talking about Ubi titles purchased through Steam, then it's Steam which is the trader.

IFIYGD님이 먼저 게시:

"Good Gaem Must Have!".

The irony is that most of it isn't even. Just the same predictable Ubi-towers gameplay version N+1 pasted on top of a new setting.

[Crystal Sharrd]

legit님이 먼저 게시:

That's simply ridiculous, pretty sure ubisoft is testing us out. There has to be a proper response by Valve. If they get away with this, I wonder what's next?

It's not like banning them from Steam is going to do much. All their newer games are only on Ubisoft Connect and the Epic Games Store.

[Zombie]

Thanks for your continued thoughts. Most of you have hit on points I've already addressed on the first page, so I'd encourage you to read those responses before reposting comments about the same things that have already been discussed.

Happy to see so many people fed up with Ubisoft's garbage behavior.

[𒐪⎝ Epylector ⎠𒐪]

+1 Good intention
+1 Work

This policy has to be applied with advance notice so publishers do not become afraid to work with Steam. There has to be high leniency when dealing with big businesses.

Ubisoft has been acting in a questionable manner but policies should not be implemented without a universally-applicable fair non-reactionary mindset.

[Thermal Lance]

Steam is not gaming’s police.

[kitt]

Thermal Lance님이 먼저 게시:

Steam is not gaming’s police.

well, they sell it, so they should police their store, no?

Hell from September 1st Store pages have to follow new rules for example.

[Zombie]

kitt님이 먼저 게시:

Thermal Lance님이 먼저 게시:

Steam is not gaming’s police.

well, they sell it, so they should police their store, no?

Hell from September 1st Store pages have to follow new rules for example.

Yeah, I find it incredibly bizarre when people bend over backwards to pretend steam has no ability (or responsibility) to maintain their storefront and publisher ToS. A curious position, if I do say so.