Steam should remove older Call of duty games from its store

[Tyjerr]

Since their multiplayer is putting people at risk (google "Remote code execution call of duty" for more information)

[Gwarsbane]

That is 100% up to the developer of the games. Valve won't remove them just because they are older and have no dedicated servers anymore.

Learn to ask questions before buying games in the games discussion areas.

[Crazy Tiger]

You can report the games through the store page, though I wouldn't hold my breath. Especially considering that the game still gets played.

[Edifier]

Just because the MP part is dead does not mean the SP part is. Removing older COD games wouldn't do anyone any good.

Going by this we could remove any older MP game that is dead even if it has a SP part to it.

[Pierce Dalton]

Certain other games like GTA Online have the same problem. Don't expect these people to care about your privacy or security.

[Pscht]

"Won't anybody think of the children", it's not your job to decide what people can or can not buy.
Also, telling someone to read a whole post while not doing your "homework" yourself is kinda hypocritical, innit?

[Satoru]

Note a game using peer to peer networking is not inherently more insecure. Stop spreading FUD because you read a 3 year old thread on Reddit for things that have already been fixed in BO2

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by Tyjerr:

Hi, I recently bought Call of duty : Black Ops II, with DLCs for me and my friend and we played the game for a bit before discovering it had a lot of security issues since it has no dedicated servers.
Basically, if you play the game anyone can access your computer with RCE (remote code execution) and can almost do everything they want on your computer (from stealing password, to formatting it).

The devs of the games won't do anything since it probably isn't worth it (money wise) to modify old games, but please at least remove these games from the steam store, it is incredibly dangerous for any user buying this game and it makes no sense for steam to allow that and to endanger its users.

Thanks for reading me

So you don't want others to buy the game because that what you're saying. FYI Steam not gonna remove the game because you asked.

Activistion is the one that made, and manage Call of Duty, the reason why they don't come back, is because they don't have to, yes it cost money to manage the game, and at some point support will be drop as this isn't a life time support, doesn't mean game need to be removed if they're not managing it, because that be dumbest logic to do including games that can be run offline.

Now your problem is you don't like taking risk with the game that has no support for years, and that fine, but not everyone out to get you, and I don't see why you couldn't just make a privatre lobby, instead of public, or why you want to play this over the other Cod games. Either way the issue is that either play with your friends in a private lobby, or don't play multiplayer at all.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by Tyjerr:

So you're saying it's basically my fault for trying to play a ten year old game?

No one making you play it.

Originally posted by Tyjerr:

And you're asking me to not play multiplayer on CALL OF DUTY, for real this is the only reason most people play that game
Yes as you said playing solo or in private lobbies is safe, but there's no way to know that and you shouldn't be expected to do that kind of research before buying a game on the biggest online store that there is.

Then what the problem, if you want to play it, then play it, if not then don't play it, as it's not rocket science.

Originally posted by Tyjerr:

Imagine going on the app store and downloading an old app that you used to use 10 years ago. You remember it's a good one and it'll do exactly what you want it to do. However, using it expose you to anyone wanting to harm you, do you really think Apple would have no responsibility in it?

No actually, because not their job to manage other people apps, and apple has their own policy how they handle their platform, Steam does not follow what apple does, as Steam is not own, nor run by apple it own, and run by Valve.

Old games that no longer get support are always at risk when comes to peer to peer.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by Tyjerr:

Are you missing the point on purpose? I'm actually concerned for you, I'm gonna explain one more time, hope you're gonna catch it this time

Didn't miss any point, you just didn't like the answers that all.

Originally posted by Tyjerr:

No one forces anyone to play a game, I have no idea why you even said that, truely astonishing
My point was clear: You shouldn't expect to be at risk when playing a game that you bought on steam. Why are you acting as if it's totally normal to be at risk when playing on steam?

Re-read your post, and then the reply. Also just because it Apple, google, Sony, Microsoft, blah blah blah, doesn't mean you can't be at risk what happens online for old games that no longer updated, or being montiored. You're expecting a life time support and updates to all games, which isn't happening, as that up to the game Dev to make those updates. Store has their own way how to run things, including how they want to run their story.

Originally posted by Tyjerr:

Just like you said, it's not rocket science: you're buying a game on steam, you're expected to be able to play it without being at risk. You're following me?
The problem, is that people buy call of duty games expecting to play with other people, because it's mainly a multiplayer game, got it? So, having one functionality of a game putting its players at risk is a good enough reason not to sell that game on steam. Do you understand now?

Like I said, Activision made call of duty, not Steam, and Steam doesn't make these updates for the game, nor do they manage the game for anyone. If you want Apple level of policy, then stick to mac, and only play MAC games, or better stick to console as even less likely to face risks.

Originally posted by Tyjerr:

As for your last argument, you really did say "no it's not the same because steam isn't apple". First time seeing someone that doesn't know what a comparison is lmao, can't do anything for you here except being sorry for you haha
Fyi, Apple does manage what's on their store, so you're wrong, again haha

Re-read, clearly cherry picked words you only wanted to read.

Originally posted by Tyjerr:

The only part where I agree is when you say that old games that no longer get support are at risk when it comes to peer to peer. Which is something I (and most people buying games on steam) don't know. That's why, steam, VALVE if you prefer, should not sell those games that are at risk for people that don't know. Got it?

And Steam is not Apple, what was unclear?

Steam doesn't do what you demand, they run their store how they see fit, and sorry to Burst your bubble, but Steam doesn't manage, or update other people games, only the game Dev of said game do these changes. If you want call of duty removed, go whine to Activision about it.

[Pscht]

And now it's the classic move "I dun goofed, better change the OP". Which only attracts more people to find out HOW the OP dun goofed.

Streisand Effect in action.

[Pscht]

Suuuure, that's why.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by Tyjerr:

I'm not expecting a lifetime support for games, all I'm asking since the beginning is for steam to REMOVE from their store the games that are putting the players at risk.

All games are at risk, if a game stop getting updates, and support from game Dev, it only matter of time game have a risk. Which you be whining wanting all games to be removed.

Originally posted by Tyjerr:

Just like any other normal store would remove dangerous products. Why are you against that?

Game itself is not the problem, it the fact people found exploit peer to peer, and Dev not coming back to fix said exploits. Aka old game no longer updated being at risk for peer to peer networking.

Originally posted by Tyjerr:

Reminder that almost no one plays call of duty for the single player, so this is not a valid argument
Fyi I've deleted my other replies here because I feel like people are just looking to argue, but I'm genuinely interested in knowing why you think that removing dangerous games from the store is not a good idea? No more playing, no more childish arguing from me or you, just tell me your honest opinion please

Can I have source on the "almost no one plays call of duty for the single player" ?

As I said all games that that no longer supported, or get updates are at risk, and at any point something can happen.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by Tyjerr:

Originally posted by Pscht:

Suuuure, that's why.

There you go, I put back the original message (more or less) in the OP, are you happy now?
Just tell me, what would be the reason for deleting my post according to you? People really are crazy here wtf, I have nothing to gain from this
All I wanted is to put a suggestion that steam removes games that are dangerous for its users, and I only got 2 normal answers, others are all picking at me. But again I don't expect you to answer me normally, you called my hypocritical in your first answer, clearly you're just looking to argue.

1. Steam =/= Activision that for starters.

2. Game risk keep ranting is about networking exploit, which apply to any game, and top it off complaint about old game that no longer updated, which is a given of that issue.

[Tyjerr]

Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Originally posted by Tyjerr:

There you go, I put back the original message (more or less) in the OP, are you happy now?
Just tell me, what would be the reason for deleting my post according to you? People really are crazy here wtf, I have nothing to gain from this
All I wanted is to put a suggestion that steam removes games that are dangerous for its users, and I only got 2 normal answers, others are all picking at me. But again I don't expect you to answer me normally, you called my hypocritical in your first answer, clearly you're just looking to argue.

1. Steam =/= Activision that for starters.

2. Game risk keep ranting is about networking exploit, which apply to any game, and top it off complaint about old game that no longer updated, which is a given of that issue.

1. But I've never said that steam was activision, steam is the one deciding what they sell on the store no? So why couldn't they remove it from the store?

2. I'm not sure if I understood this correctly, but you're saying that any games can get exploited the same way? That is not true, old Call of duty multiplayers allow for remote code execution, I've never heard of anything like that in another popular game sold on steam. But maybe there are a lot of games at risk like this, in which case the situation is worse than I thought. But then I would understand why you think that these Call of duty old games being on the store is not an issue.

I don't complain about an old game because it's not updated, I'm fine with not being able to play it because it's dangerous. What I want is for steam to remove it from their store, so it doesn't put people that don't know it's dangerous, at risk

Ultimately, are there a lot of popular games where remote code execution is possible upon playing it online? If yes, then I apologize, I thought it was an issue specifically tied to these call of duty games.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by Tyjerr:

Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

1. Steam =/= Activision that for starters.

2. Game risk keep ranting is about networking exploit, which apply to any game, and top it off complaint about old game that no longer updated, which is a given of that issue.

1. But I've never said that steam was activision, steam is the one deciding what they sell on the store no? So why couldn't they remove it from the store?

2. I'm not sure if I understood this correctly, but you're saying that any games can get exploited the same way? That is not true, old Call of duty multiplayers allow for remote code execution, I've never heard of anything like that in another popular game sold on steam. But maybe there are a lot of games at risk like this, in which case the situation is worse than I thought. But then I would understand why you think that these Call of duty old games being on the store is not an issue.

I don't complain about an old game because it's not updated, I'm fine with not being able to play it because it's dangerous. What I want is for steam to remove it from their store, so it doesn't put people that don't know it's dangerous, at risk

Ultimately, are there a lot of popular games where remote code execution is possible upon playing it online? If yes, then I apologize, I thought it was an issue specifically tied to these call of duty games.

1. They can remove any game, but they don't have to, nor listen to anyone demand/request, as well this would cause negative impact on partnership with the game Dev as well. Only reason a game get pushed off the Steam is if the game Dev was breaking ToS, or done something really dumb to get him/her self kicked off the platform.

2. Any game can be at risk, never said it be same method, or same risk. CoD isn't only games that had RCE issues, that why it's up to end user to keep their systems updated, using a good anti virus, and being vigilant what they do online, as most companies won't hold hands for others.