Sales Suggestion: Stop showing games I own and/or ignored

[Aurjay]

It is ridiculous anytime there is a sale and when I scroll to find any game I may want to buy...only 1 game or no games are showing up on the main page that I do not own already or have on ignored. With no exaggeration, I have 26 games that are on that front page that I own, 31 games that I have on ignored, and 4 games that I have on wishlist (which I'm okay with that) and 1 game that I do not own that is not wishlisted. What makes it worse is that some of the numbers are also showing games multiple times. I have money, I want to give you money, make it easier for me to do so. The fact that any game I own or have on ignore show up on the front page during sales is pretty ignorant in a marketing standpoint.

[8-The-General-8]

When I see "In Library" I usually got it on sale and feel good about it : S

Hey! Maybe that's a preliminary sales tactic...

[Aurjay]

fluxtorrent の投稿を引用：

There is no sense in NOT trying. You miss every shot you dont take.

By not showing they miss potential sales. By showing they.... what? Make you angry post in suggestions and ideas? Guess what that costs them.

If you were adding something actually constructive to the post, and not actually harassing in the post, that'd be one thing. I am completely okay with people disagreeing with my opinion on this matter, but having people spout things that are factually in accurate and just taking the original post off course and being a troll is actually against the community guidelines. Anyways, you are right up there with brian for just not getting any more responses as people who choose to harass for the sake of harassing instead of expression opinions and debating (if there is a debate possible to be had, not arguing against FACTS) said opinions in a civilized manner. I would appreciate you not taking my post any further off course, and would also appreciate you deleting your unhelpful and irrelevant posts so people finding this thread can actually take part in discussing the original post.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Aurjay の投稿を引用：

fluxtorrent の投稿を引用：

Because you've NEVER wanted to buy a game for someone else right? Especially one you own that you might want to play together?

But in this scenario, you are a business man, any knowledge of if I have friends who do not have the game is not common knowledge to you, and a good bit of those games that I did buy from you are single player games. Would you try to sell me that game again? In all honesty, there is no actual sense in the marketing standpoint for this and there is no sense of any of your arguing of me based on the original post and your blatant ignorance to facts that you tried to push that are easily proven to be inaccurate, speaking of the front store being the same for everyone. Anyways. You are welcome to exit this conversation unless you have something constructive to add to it without violating the Steam Community Guidelines any further. You honestly might want to take a look at them before you end up getting yourself in trouble.

lol....someone having a different opinion than you DOES NOT violate ANY rule.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Speaking of ignoring. You ignored post #12....

[Brian9824]

Aurjay の投稿を引用：

rant.

Except for the teeny fact that YOU are the one sprouting incorrect info and I actually linked you to moderators and official responses from steam.

You just don't like the answer and refuse to accept it...

[Brian9824]

C²C^Guyver |NZB| の投稿を引用：

Speaking of ignoring. You ignored post #12....

He also ignored post 7,11, and 15 where I linked him the official documentation confirming what I previously told him.

Then again he's mad at me because I proved he was lying in another thread when he claimed that you couldn't refund games for not liking them when refunds first came out when I linked him to streams refund support page saying that you could refund a game for not liking but back in 2015..…

[Aurjay]

brian9824 の投稿を引用：

Found it for you
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/1743346190281060831/#c1743346190281283867

There are a number of sections on the front page that we fill with games, and to ensure the servers behind it don't melt down as everyone tries to use it, we do a lot of data caching.

Again as stated it's for performance, so they can cache the result and then apply filters which is far more efficient then having to do a call to the database for everyone.

Again calling people wrong who clearly know more about how steam works then you rather then admitting you were wrong isnt the smartest move...

Brian, I appreciate you wanting to harass me further, and understand you try your best to mask responses as not harassment, which this is the least obvious, but with our previous interactions I need you to not respond to me. Especially when the post you are citing is not relevant as it is not at all about this topic, it's about maturity filtered games showing up as blurred out, not that games you own show up to be resold to you. Completely different topics. But please, with all due respect (and yes I mean that not just saying it tongue in cheek) refrain from posting to me again please. I have told you before I do not wish to converse with you further, in other words, continuing to do so without an actually good reason or to do so without an apology or to finding out why (in situations where a person is unaware they may have cross a line with someone) is by definition harassment. I do not want to press this issue, but good lord man, I'm 41 and I'm pulling what little hair I have on my head out because of you alone tonight. (also I did want to point out I did misread the 18 as 13. You did make a good point with that one and I own up to my mistake, no matter how minor of one it was to the scope of things.)

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Please. Stop your drama. No one is doing anything to you. You're simply getting upset because we are telling you that your idea is not practical or feasible from neither a consumer or business standpoint.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Another little tidbit of rule info:

Stop telling people not to post in your thread.

You made the thread, but you do not get to dictate who posts in it or what they post.

[Brian9824]

Aurjay の投稿を引用：

Brian, I appreciate you wanting to harass me further, and understand you try your best to mask responses as not harassment, which this is the least obvious, but with our previous interactions I need you to not respond to me.

Frankly I don't care what you need. If you can't handle being given the correct info thats your problem and you are free to avoid the forums. You don't get to dictate who can post where....

Aurjay の投稿を引用：

Especially when the post you are citing is not relevant as it is not at all about this topic, it's about maturity filtered games showing up as blurred out, not that games you own show up to be resold to you. Completely different topics.

You REALLY need to actually read before you shove your foot down your throat.

There are a number of sections on the front page that we fill with games, and to ensure the servers behind it don't melt down as everyone tries to use it, we do a lot of data caching. This works great for data sets that we can easily pre-compute

Again, they grab a pre-selected list of games, then apply the filters such as maturity filters to that selection. So if you have mature games turned off they then filter out the matured games. Its an easy flag, unlike having to cross check every game in your list.

Again its really basic database stuff. You want to avoid having to do calls to the database as much as possible. Hence why they cache common stuff. If they had to compare games and cross reference it against games people own it would be far more data intensive.

Aurjay の投稿を引用：

But please, with all due respect (and yes I mean that not just saying it tongue in cheek) refrain from posting to me again please.

Sorry, you don't get to be the forum police. I'll respond to any post I wish, especially ones where the information being posted is factually wrong.

Aurjay の投稿を引用：

I have told you before I do not wish to converse with you further, in other words, continuing to do so without an actually good reason or to do so without an apology or to finding out why (in situations where a person is unaware they may have cross a line with someone) is by definition harassment.

I apologize that you don't know the definition of harrassment. You not liking my responses isn't harrassment. If you don't like my responses feel free to not read them. These are steam's forums and everyone is allowed to post.

Aurjay の投稿を引用：

I do not want to press this issue, but good lord man, I'm 41 and I'm pulling what little hair I have on my head out because of you alone tonight. (also I did want to point out I did misread the 18 as 13. You did make a good point with that one and I own up to my mistake, no matter how minor of one it was to the scope of things.)

Feel free to press it, everyone is allowed to post. I mean if you think that you can say that because you don't want to converse with me i'm not allowed to post in any thread you post in well i'm sorry, but we can add that to the list of things that you don't know how they work.

[Aurjay]

C²C^Guyver |NZB| の投稿を引用：

Another little tidbit of rule info:

Stop telling people not to post in your thread.

You made the thread, but you do not get to dictate who posts in it or what they post.

I cannot dictate who posts, but I can tell them to follow the steam rules or they will get reported and they will get banned from being able to post, as I did. So, heed my warning and review the steam community guidelines to learn how you are ALLOWED to respond to people here.

[fluxtorrent]

Nothing posted by anyone here broke those rules. Backseat moderating does though

[Brian9824]

fluxtorrent の投稿を引用：

Nothing posted by anyone here broke those rules. Backseat moderating does though

I mean its sad, he was given the answer and just doesn't like it and instead is attacking everyone...

Its no big secret, its a basic cache of titles that they then apply the filter on. Filtering a pre-selected list doesn't require any calls to the database so performance is lightyears better then if they had to call the database server every time someone views the home page.

It's like if i gave you 20 books and told you to remove the ones with red covers versus telling you to go to the library and grab 20 books from millions of books all over the place, and then afterwards remove the ones with red covers.

Having the pre-cached list is far faster and more efficient.

[Aurjay]

I have taken the appropriate action, and one final response to "he was given the answer" this isn't a d*mn question post, it's a suggestion post. Again, the only way to appropriate post here is if you agree or disagree and staying on topic. Your failed attempt to "answer" the post with information that has nothing to do with the thread is rather sickening to be honest. I have ignored you, so any further response will not tempt me to respond, but it is extremely bothersome that people like you are in the community. Even when you do get banned from this section, it doesn't ban you from other game communities on steam, and to be honest, it isn't right that anyone else should ever have to endure your behavior. I do hope you, and the others, do better at being better individuals. I wish you the best in life, and hope whatever is going on in your life to cause you to be this way gets better as well. I mean it. I am sorry that I can no longer tolerate this behavior enough and will be ignoring you from now on. Hope you find someone who doesn't ignore you to help you out with your issues.

[fluxtorrent]

Yeah no, your definition of "appropriate response" is not accurate, hence why none of us will be banned. As witnessed by the fact we've literally been posting here for years.