I want more free stuff.

[FOXDUDE69]

Steam doesn't give it's users enough free stuff. In fact, we don't get any free stuff at all from them.

Epic gives you 2 games a week (thanks daddy Sweeney).
GOG gives you a free game almost every sale, mostly old games but more than Valve gives us.
Nintendo lets you trade in Nintendo Coins for games.
I've even gotten multiple free games from Sony over the years! Good games, too! Like the Uncharted trilogy.

Steam on the other hand can't even give us an exclusive skin for playing CSGO for 10 years.
Valve needs to start showing they care about their customers and kick back some of that cheese to the Steam community.

Step up your game Valve!
Give us some Xmas presents in december, free games, coupons, skins.
Send a Steam Deck per month to a random user with more than 1500 games on his/hers account. There's so much you can do to give back to this community that supported you for decades now.

[Start_Running]

FOXDUDE69 の投稿を引用：

Steam doesn't give it's users enough free stuff. In fact, we don't get any free stuff at all from them.

Epic gives you 2 games a week (thanks daddy Sweeney).
GOG gives you a free game almost every sale, mostly old games but more than Valve gives us.
Nintendo lets you trade in Nintendo Coins for games.
I've even gotten multiple free games from Sony over the years! Good games, too! Like the Uncharted trilogy.

And do you know what GoG and EGs have in common? They aren't earning a lot. EGS is literally operating at a loss, and GoG isn't that much better.

FOXDUDE69 の投稿を引用：

Steam on the other hand can't even give us an exclusive skin for playing CSGO for 10 years.
Valve needs to start showing they care about their customers and kick back some of that cheese to the Steam community.

Yeah. and we do get plenty of free stuff. Free trading cards every sale which can be sold for money for example.

Everytime they have done game giveaways ...the wonderful community throws ♥♥♥♥♥ fits.


Not to mention you do get free item drops in games like TF2 and Dota2.

Also supported Vlave?
I have not been suypporting vLve, neither have most of the users. You've been exchanging goods for money. You've given them nothin they didn't earn.

The Joke is there's plenty of free stuff on Valve, free games, freeweekneds, if you actually look for it, you'll find it. Heck I got Doom 3 BFG edition free during the quakecone. I also got all the DLC for Guild of Dungeoneering for free too.

AMong. Many, Many, others and then there's the F2P games.

Heck the whole points shop is basically free stuff.

[Babi Gendut]

Points aren't free. People need to spend real money on games, dlc, item shop etc, to get points. It's basically an extension of microtransactions. And it's not even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction the value of free games given by other platforms.

Most of free games on steam are coming from developer's expense. They have to relieve the profits during free/trial periods. It always baffled me when some people have the audacity to give steam/valve credits for free games on steam.

The money you get from selling skins/items/lootboxes on steam marketplace aren't paid by valve. Other steam users pay for it and valve get 5%-20% of each item sold. So no thanks to valve either, they should have thanked you instead.

You steam fanboys are special kind of suckers. Most companies paid millions to promote their products. But you guys are PAYING VALVE to promote and defend their businesses.

[shiro17]

Thanks for the info

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

FOXDUDE69 の投稿を引用：

Steam doesn't give it's users enough free stuff. In fact, we don't get any free stuff at all from them.

Epic gives you 2 games a week (thanks daddy Sweeney).
GOG gives you a free game almost every sale, mostly old games but more than Valve gives us.
Nintendo lets you trade in Nintendo Coins for games.
I've even gotten multiple free games from Sony over the years! Good games, too! Like the Uncharted trilogy.

Steam on the other hand can't even give us an exclusive skin for playing CSGO for 10 years.
Valve needs to start showing they care about their customers and kick back some of that cheese to the Steam community.

Step up your game Valve!
Give us some Xmas presents in december, free games, coupons, skins.
Send a Steam Deck per month to a random user with more than 1500 games on his/hers account. There's so much you can do to give back to this community that supported you for decades now.

Epic: A game studio that literally operates off of the bloodflow of Fortnite and is literally largely known for only Fortnite in this day and age, a game so well known that they were able to brag about for weeks on end how they got the Rock in their trailers and ads.

Nintendo: Literally a company so old that most people that hear the name will instantly say "Oh the mario lads" which gives a rather easy IP for branding but their not as kind as one thinks when they've DMCA'd kids or playing emulated games on their own home PC's

Sony: A literal multi-tech company where the Playstation is only one of many arms just like how to Microsoft the Xbox is one of many for them who make products ranging from standard Camera's to providing genome analysis services in Japan




Ya Idk about you lads, but as far as it goes, Steam is a Digital Disturbution platform that is a child company of Valve that only goes up to VR aint much when you take into the factors above

Especially comparing Valve to freaking Sony of all companies, why not try to compare Valve to Microsoft at that point, you'd get the same results just with less people being smug and instead very angry that they were used in a reference.

[Brian9824]

Satoru の投稿を引用：

KittenGrindr の投稿を引用：

You also have to use EGS for Fortnite. So those numbers are fluffed pretty hard.

Note that its pretty easy for Epic to track new user acquisitions for free games, since after all a user has to make an account and then acquires the game. thus its super easy to determine why an account was created and to separate them from Fortnite users. Also note that their calculus is purely new user acquisition cost. Their data separated "Entitlements" which is "how many copies were moved" vs "New Epic Accounts" In the same data, Epic gave away 105 million copies of various games but received 5 million new user accounts from that. Their conversions of 'entitlements' vs 'new users' mostly is in the single digits. Only Subnautica (17% and the initial free launch title) and Batman Arkham (10%) ever broke double digits.

Epic tracks Fortnite stuff separately since they have tons of ingestion mechanisms for that, different marketing programs, etc. I'm pretty sure Epic is pulling in more than 4 million new users per year in Fortnite. That number is more like 40-50 million

It is, but they have no reason to report it as that, when it's much more beneficial to inflate their numbers. Just like back when Microsoft reported Xboxes shipped instead of sold and included units sent to replace red rings of death.

It's very normal to play with numbers like that and legal, but when you dig into the numbers you see the real truth.

The most damning numbers are dividing users by sales where you realize they were averaging under $1.50 in sales per user which is not sustainable

[м]

FOXDUDE69 の投稿を引用：

Send a Steam Deck per month to a random user with more than 1500 games on his/hers account. There's so much you can do to give back to this community that supported you for decades now.

They probably could do that, but why would they?

Steam has the most users, they don't have to lure new people to the platform with free things, like epic.

And valve gives us a lot of free things already, a forum, friendlist with features, artwork and screenshot storage, profiles, customisation.... What of that do you have on epic?

What's also odd, on a personal note, on your profile you've got 1000+ games, you claim to be well off, yet you are here to ask for free stuff? Why is that?

[AROCK!!!]

м の投稿を引用：

And valve gives us a lot of free things already, a forum, friendlist with features, artwork and screenshot storage, profiles, customisation.... What of that do you have on epic?

This made me laugh.


On a personal note, many of us don't care about that stuff.
If they took all that fluff away tomorrow I would not miss it one iota.
In fact, last month I gave away all my cards to a friend...just gave them away because they, and all the things you can do with them are meaningless to me.


Pretty sure Epic looked at the ♥♥♥♥ show that is the STEAM forums and concluded they are better off without it....plus, with things like Discord, these forums are all but obsolete.

I post a message on a STEAM game hub and maybe, just maybe I'll get an answer from a dev...on Discord, 99 times out of 100 I'll get one within hours.


You can connect your STEAM friends to your Epic friends list, and a while back Epic added a workshop feature.

[Swarm]

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GunnerAlert の投稿を引用：

Okay then...maybe free trails to games Valve owns like L4D2 or Portal?

At this point, they should let you buy those with Steam Points.

I never thought of that. Maybe when you spend $100 on steam you can buy a $10 game with points?

[Nx Machina]

GunnerAlert の投稿を引用：

I never thought of that. Maybe when you spend $100 on steam you can buy a $10 game with points?

Points have no monetary value and devs, pubs want paying in real money.

[Brian9824]

GunnerAlert の投稿を引用：

I am supporting a game pass for steam. They would get $14 a month and split the amount with the games they approved of. The steam deck thing is completely off the walls though. It is a big request but sure, I support it.

Valve already does support it, anyone can create a game pass for steam and make it available. Microsoft levels its first party titles in their gamepass, without those it would be mediocre at best. Steam isn't a primary game publisher and doesn't have that.

Nothing stops say Square Enix from doing a $8 a month pass for all their games, or for 4-5 studios to team up and do one, except the logistics behind it. I'm not surprised Valve doesn't want to touch that as Xbox has an entire team that does nothing but negotiate for the pass.

[Nx Machina]

GunnerAlert の投稿を引用：

I am supporting a game pass for steam. They would get $14 a month and split the amount with the games they approved of. The steam deck thing is completely off the walls though. It is a big request but sure, I support it.

It is not for Valve to decide upon a gamepass for other developer games, but the actual devs, pubs of those games.

Paradox has subscriptions for their games via Steam with Hearts of Iron IV been one example.

[Tito Shivan]

Nx Machina の投稿を引用：

GunnerAlert の投稿を引用：

I never thought of that. Maybe when you spend $100 on steam you can buy a $10 game with points?

Points have no monetary value and devs, pubs want paying in real money.

Even if Steam banked the discount (taking the discounted quantity from their own share) it seems they are not interested in entertaining such a possibility.

Probably because the exchange ratio would be so up-the-roof people would throw a tantrum regardless.

[Nx Machina]

Tito Shivan の投稿を引用：

Even if Steam banked the discount (taking the discounted quantity from their own share) it seems they are not interested in entertaining such a possibility.

Exactly. "Points = cosmetics for profiles" and was designed thus.

Tito Shivan の投稿を引用：

Probably because the exchange ratio would be so up-the-roof people would throw a tantrum regardless.

They would throw a tantrum if it were low especially as the premise is "get a free game" in exchange for points, those selfsame points one can get "without spending money" to acquire them.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Nx Machina の投稿を引用：

Tito Shivan の投稿を引用：

Even if Steam banked the discount (taking the discounted quantity from their own share) it seems they are not interested in entertaining such a possibility.

Exactly. "Points = cosmetics for profiles" and was designed thus.

Tito Shivan の投稿を引用：

Probably because the exchange ratio would be so up-the-roof people would throw a tantrum regardless.

They would throw a tantrum if it were low especially as the premise is "get a free game" in exchange for points, those selfsame points one can get "without spending money" to acquire them.

Since Nintendo was use as an example, it's exchange rate is pretty bad.

For a $60 game you get like $3 of points. You would need to spend $600 to get even half off a new release.

The points are good for little indie titles that go on sale or shovel ware. It is t good for a majority of the store.

[Mad Scientist]

FOXDUDE69 の投稿を引用：

I don't think fanboy-ism is their only problem, because at least fanboys like getting free stuff.
These people just oppose every single thread on the suggestions/ideas board as a default, no matter how benign, everyone who is a regular on these forums knows them.

Historically, "these people" have been known to agree with good suggestions. Trying to poke at them and misrepresent their views seems like you're trying to start an off topic argument.

I doubt they'll adopt an epic styled process, seeing as they already have a large paying customer base. It would have a same effect as epic; people coming in without buying anything.

They don't need to fluff user numbers, they have paying numbers.

They're also free to choose random people for a deck. Though seeing as they removed the 100 wishlisted games thing a long time ago, don't count on it.