I want more free stuff.

[FOXDUDE69]

Steam doesn't give it's users enough free stuff. In fact, we don't get any free stuff at all from them.

Epic gives you 2 games a week (thanks daddy Sweeney).
GOG gives you a free game almost every sale, mostly old games but more than Valve gives us.
Nintendo lets you trade in Nintendo Coins for games.
I've even gotten multiple free games from Sony over the years! Good games, too! Like the Uncharted trilogy.

Steam on the other hand can't even give us an exclusive skin for playing CSGO for 10 years.
Valve needs to start showing they care about their customers and kick back some of that cheese to the Steam community.

Step up your game Valve!
Give us some Xmas presents in december, free games, coupons, skins.
Send a Steam Deck per month to a random user with more than 1500 games on his/hers account. There's so much you can do to give back to this community that supported you for decades now.

[Brian9824]

Tito Shivan eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm still skeptical about what's Epic long game on the business. And things like them overstretching their free games giveaways (It was originally planned to be only one year of giveaways, we're getting into their FOURTH year of giveaways, with also an increased frequency over their initial schedule) makes me more and more skeptical about their service long-term.

Yep, as I previously mentioned its all EPIC is known for. If you ask 100 people to say their favorite thing about Steam or whats good about steam, you will have all sorts of answers from their sales, to forums, to profiles, to trading cards, to workshop, etc.

Ask 100 people about EPIC and the only good thing they tell you is that they get free games......

[[?]legit]

cSg|mc-Hotsauce eredeti hozzászólása:

legit eredeti hozzászólása:

very, very important (top tier, triple a, most popular, or whatever you'd like to call them) ones. Call of Duty... they all require a 3rd party launcher.

MWII doesn't require Battle.net .

Are you sure? That would be great news.

[Tito Shivan]

cinedine eredeti hozzászólása:

cinedine eredeti hozzászólása:

But they need to give people an incentive to use the service. Trading cards, points shop, ... they amount to nothing if you are not involved with the community.

Those like it, we are in the minority. That's the point I was trying to make.
Steam doesn't have to (it can't) please every user.

And right now they don't need to please the freeloaders.

brian9824 eredeti hozzászólása:

Ask 100 people about EPIC and the only good thing they tell you is that they get free games......

There's going to be a shortage of popcorn the day Epic says "That's all folks. You want more games? You bloody buy'em"

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

legit eredeti hozzászólása:

cSg|mc-Hotsauce eredeti hozzászólása:

MWII doesn't require Battle.net .

Are you sure? That would be great news.

Played the beta, no Battle.net . Even the dev said it doesn't.

[Brian9824]

Tito Shivan eredeti hozzászólása:

cinedine eredeti hozzászólása:

Those like it, we are in the minority. That's the point I was trying to make.
Steam doesn't have to (it can't) please every user.

And right now they don't need to please the freeloaders.

brian9824 eredeti hozzászólása:

Ask 100 people about EPIC and the only good thing they tell you is that they get free games......

There's going to be a shortage of popcorn the day Epic says "That's all folks. You want more games? You bloody buy'em"

Yeah and the thing is Sweeny wasn't an idiot, his plan was good, give away free games, get people using their site, then stop. The problem is they launched way to early and spent years just getting basic functionality in place. Now if they were smart and actually negotiated with the developers to have lower prices in exchange for their lower revenue cut there would be a reason to use them, but the average user doesn't care if you keep 1% or 99% of the profits. They care what they are paying.

There is nothing about Epic that differentiates itself from any other store, so nothing to keep people there once they stop turning off the freebies. They know it, but there isn't a good solution at this point as its become expected of the store. So whenever they stop, they will alienate most of their user base.

[Elizzbth]

Yes

[fluxtorrent]

Thats not true, there is one thing that differentiates epic as a store.

its still terrible!

Worse to shop on than ANY of its competitors, even gamersgate is better, hell even the microsoft store is better

[Brian9824]

fluxtorrent eredeti hozzászólása:

hell even the microsoft store is better

Whoa now, not sure i'd go THAT far....

[[?]legit]

brian9824 eredeti hozzászólása:

fluxtorrent eredeti hozzászólása:

hell even the microsoft store is better

Whoa now, not sure i'd go THAT far....

I'd go that far and say pretty much any store except steam is bad.

[Boblin the Goblin]

brian9824 eredeti hozzászólása:

Tito Shivan eredeti hozzászólása:

Those like it, we are in the minority. That's the point I was trying to make.
Steam doesn't have to (it can't) please every user.

And right now they don't need to please the freeloaders.


There's going to be a shortage of popcorn the day Epic says "That's all folks. You want more games? You bloody buy'em"

Yeah and the thing is Sweeny wasn't an idiot, his plan was good, give away free games, get people using their site, then stop. The problem is they launched way to early and spent years just getting basic functionality in place. Now if they were smart and actually negotiated with the developers to have lower prices in exchange for their lower revenue cut there would be a reason to use them, but the average user doesn't care if you keep 1% or 99% of the profits. They care what they are paying.

There is nothing about Epic that differentiates itself from any other store, so nothing to keep people there once they stop turning off the freebies. They know it, but there isn't a good solution at this point as its become expected of the store. So whenever they stop, they will alienate most of their user base.

It also didn't help they were caught scouring the "releasing soon" section to try and snipe devs with exclusive deals.

[[?]legit]

Well, good for epic, or bad for epic, I don't really care too much about them. What has this whole Epic thing to do with steam? How are Valve's giveaway practices tied to the success of EGS?

[fluxtorrent]

legit eredeti hozzászólása:

brian9824 eredeti hozzászólása:

Whoa now, not sure i'd go THAT far....

I'd go that far and say pretty much any store except steam is bad.

meh microsoft is functional, origin and uplay work, gog and humble are good enough and browseable within reason

but no other store gives the sheer amount of data and feedback, while not perfect the user tags can be useful, the reviews and filtering options for them on the store page exceed anything on other platforms, one click to check out the community hub to learn a WHOLE lot more about the game than you can on any other store. While you still need to do some research off steam to get the full idea (steamspy being my first stop usually) Steam does a hell of a lot to provide you with the necessary information to keep you on the page and THAT is how you drive sales.


Hell half the time if I'm looking at a game on epic I'll have to go find the steam page for the same game to even get just the BASICS thats how bad their store pages are

legit eredeti hozzászólása:

Well, good for epic, or bad for epic, I don't really care too much about them. What has this whole Epic thing to do with steam? How are Valve's giveaway practices tied to the success of EGS?

because they show how little the giveaway practices being asked for actually impact the store

[Swarm]

I have a idea to follow up with yours. After every time our account hits a anniversary, they should give us a free trail to some games for a week. That is one of reasons why I mainly play on Microsoft instead of steam.

[Brian9824]

GunnerAlert eredeti hozzászólása:

I have a idea to follow up with yours. After every time our account hits a anniversary, they should give us a free trail to some games for a week. That is one of reasons why I mainly play on Microsoft instead of steam.

Can't give out trials of games they don't own....

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

GunnerAlert eredeti hozzászólása:

I have a idea to follow up with yours. After every time our account hits a anniversary, they should give us a free trail to some games for a week. That is one of reasons why I mainly play on Microsoft instead of steam.

You mean like free weeks/weekends publishers already opt into?