I want more free stuff.

[FOXDUDE69]

Steam doesn't give it's users enough free stuff. In fact, we don't get any free stuff at all from them.

Epic gives you 2 games a week (thanks daddy Sweeney).
GOG gives you a free game almost every sale, mostly old games but more than Valve gives us.
Nintendo lets you trade in Nintendo Coins for games.
I've even gotten multiple free games from Sony over the years! Good games, too! Like the Uncharted trilogy.

Steam on the other hand can't even give us an exclusive skin for playing CSGO for 10 years.
Valve needs to start showing they care about their customers and kick back some of that cheese to the Steam community.

Step up your game Valve!
Give us some Xmas presents in december, free games, coupons, skins.
Send a Steam Deck per month to a random user with more than 1500 games on his/hers account. There's so much you can do to give back to this community that supported you for decades now.

[The Commendatore]

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

...those who argue just for the sake of arguing...

Aww, I guess that really got under your skin.

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Dear Start_Running,

Unfortunately, no, Steam doesn't have any quality standard.

DO rthey ghave grounds by which games may be rejected based on their design or content? Yes.
So they do have Quality Standards.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

The few games rejected by Steam aren't rejected because of low quality or anything like that, they're rejected for a different reason: they violate guidelines, which were created just to shield Valve from legal complications, nothing else.

They don't allow 'troll games' That's in the guidelines M8. So Yeah. Best you can say is VAlve does bnot set their standards based on YOUR preferences. And That heavens for the rest of us.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Funnily enough, though, there are various games on Steam using the likeness of famous people without their permission. Imagine if they knew about that...

As long as its 20-25% different, its cool.

Dear Start_Running,

1. That's incorrect, because demanding your game to not discriminate gay or black people, for example, has nothing to do with game quality. Their guidelines are common sense rules that any serious and responsible company should have. It doesn't take a genius to realize that these guidelines are completely unrelated to technical quality (your game can run at 10fps, that's fine, or crash every 10mins).

2. Are you sure, m8? So why is this troll "game" on the store?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/877360/18/

3. It's irrelevant how different the character looks if it's using your name, Sir.

Now, can we go back to the topic or you want to derail the discussion a bit more?

Free games wouldn't harm Valve, on the contrary: they would only encourage people to buy more games if they adopt a "retribution" system like I've exemplified before.

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by The Commendatore:

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

...those who argue just for the sake of arguing...

Aww, I guess that really got under your skin.

Sir, please do explain how your post is connected to "free stuff", because I can't see any connection.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Originally posted by The Commendatore:

Aww, I guess that really got under your skin.

Sir, please do explain how your post is connected to "free stuff", because I can't see any connection.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Originally posted by Lustrous Spirit:

Its Paypal, a site known for being so backwards on both good and bad things that they billed a someone who was already dead 3k dollars for failure on paying back a credit charge that they were neither apart of or even iovolved with, so them paying people random money is not shocking.

Dear Lustrous Spirit,

Thank you for the valuable contribution to this discussion. I must inform you that this doesn't answer my question, though.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Originally posted by brian9824:

Yes

https://www.gog.com/en/game/dragons_dogma_dark_arisen
https://www.gog.com/en/game/street_fighter_alpha_2

Can also find games from

Bethesda
Midway
Warner Bros
Electronic Arts
Blizzard
NIS America
Konami
Square-Enix
etc

LOL

Thank you, brian9824. You gave me the answer I wanted, good boy =D

Why aren't they putting their recent games there?

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Originally posted by KittenGrindr:

You asked who said Steam would have to pay for the free game they give you.

Oh wait, you're doing this intentionally to drag it out. Neat.

Too bad I don't have the patience for your game of "20 Questions" followed by "Goalposts Shift"

I know exactly what I said, I also know exactly what I DIDN'T said :)

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Originally posted by The Commendatore:

Sauce?

Your friends.

Ask them if they have played all games on their library ;)

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Wait. SOP it's a mystery one way, but not the other. You seem to be only looking at things that support your notions M8. The answer is, that you'd have to ask the dev/pubs in both cases cause the reasoning may not be what you think it is. NEver mind that plenty of games release simultaneously. AT the end of the day GoG is indeed a competitor., and they provide an option. An option that might not always appeal to dev/pubs but hey just pecause you don't take your hot dog with saurkraut and hotsauce doesn't mean the option to do so if you want doesn't exist.




Yeah. It's an option. The existence of an option doesn't obligate the use of it. You have the option to hack off your arm right now but some how I doubt you';re reaching for a hacksaw.

The interesting paradox about free stuff is... no amount of freestuff is ever going to be enough for some people. OP demonstrates that quite directly.

An option that doesn't appeal to most devs/pubs and you know that. Take all games released on Steam this year and tell me how many were released on GOG as well.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Dev didn't want to. It's anm option the dev/pub had and they at the moment dio not see it as an option worth pursuing. WHat's your point? The option to do something does not mean one has the obligation to do it.

You can hack off your arm riight now. WHy haven't you?
If a developer wants a platform with DRM, there are platforms other than steam for that I mean Origin was a tghing for a while remember. And there is the idea of their own delivery and store front.




Blizzacti
CAPCOM
Bethesda
Konami
EA
, etc

Why aren't they putting their recent games there?

And that's just 1 1/2 pages of you not talking about free games.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Dear Start_Running,

1. That's incorrect, because demanding your game to not discriminate gay or black people, for example, has nothing to do with game quality.

To you. Ton other people, it may be different. Many people consider a game that insults them to be undesirable, unenjoyable, unentertaining and not worth buying. Or in short, orf low/insufficient quality.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Their guidelines are common sense rules that any serious and responsible company should have. It doesn't take a genius to realize that these guidelines are completely unrelated to technical quality (your game can run at 10fps, that's fine, or crash every 10mins).

Define 'technical quality'.. Because as far as I can see the only measure of quality for a product is the degree and reliability with which it performs its core function. A knife's quality is judged by how well it cuts through materieals, and how durable it is. It isn't judged by it's robust flavour and heady aroma, which are factors by which cheese is judged.

AN entertainment product is judged byu weather or not it entertains someone. And since people are wide and diverse there is no joke, , music, image, or play that at least one person in human history didn't find entertaining. SO quality of a game can basically be bmeasured by whether or not someone enjoyed it.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

2. Are you sure, m8? So why is this troll "game" on the store?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/877360/18/

Uhm. That's not a troll game. I mean maybe if you can't figure out the riddles you'd consider it a troll game but it's not a troll game. THough you're welcome to report itas such. ALl you've shown is a "Ag Game Pierce Dalton doesn't like'

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

3. It's irrelevant how different the character looks if it's using your name, Sir.

You'd be surprised. Just ask Itagaki Keisuke. Plus there are exceptions to that rule. As there are to every rule relating to suich things.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Free games wouldn't harm Valve, on the contrary: they would only encourage people to buy more games if they adopt a "retribution" system like I've exemplified before.

Not likely because the OP and yourself already get the equivalent of a free game already and y'all still complaining.

This is why more businesses go bust trying to please their customers than not.
There is no pleasing the entitled.

By the way. When was the last time you gave VAlve anything for free?

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by KittenGrindr:

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Sir, please do explain how your post is connected to "free stuff", because I can't see any connection.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Dear Lustrous Spirit,

Thank you for the valuable contribution to this discussion. I must inform you that this doesn't answer my question, though.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

LOL

Thank you, brian9824. You gave me the answer I wanted, good boy =D

Why aren't they putting their recent games there?

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

I know exactly what I said, I also know exactly what I DIDN'T said :)

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Your friends.

Ask them if they have played all games on their library ;)

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

An option that doesn't appeal to most devs/pubs and you know that. Take all games released on Steam this year and tell me how many were released on GOG as well.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Why aren't they putting their recent games there?

And that's just 1 1/2 pages of you not talking about free games.

Dear KittenGrindr,

Please refrain from quoting posts you're not replying to, that only makes the discussion more convoluted. You can easily do the following to avoid that:
Post 10
Post 11
Post 12
Etc...

To correct and educate people is always important, even if that is unrelated to the topic.

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Dear Start_Running,

1. That's incorrect, because demanding your game to not discriminate gay or black people, for example, has nothing to do with game quality.

To you. Ton other people, it may be different. Many people consider a game that insults them to be undesirable, unenjoyable, unentertaining and not worth buying. Or in short, orf low/insufficient quality.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Their guidelines are common sense rules that any serious and responsible company should have. It doesn't take a genius to realize that these guidelines are completely unrelated to technical quality (your game can run at 10fps, that's fine, or crash every 10mins).

Define 'technical quality'.. Because as far as I can see the only measure of quality for a product is the degree and reliability with which it performs its core function. A knife's quality is judged by how well it cuts through materieals, and how durable it is. It isn't judged by it's robust flavour and heady aroma, which are factors by which cheese is judged.

AN entertainment product is judged byu weather or not it entertains someone. And since people are wide and diverse there is no joke, , music, image, or play that at least one person in human history didn't find entertaining. SO quality of a game can basically be bmeasured by whether or not someone enjoyed it.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

2. Are you sure, m8? So why is this troll "game" on the store?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/877360/18/

Uhm. That's not a troll game. I mean maybe if you can't figure out the riddles you'd consider it a troll game but it's not a troll game. THough you're welcome to report itas such. ALl you've shown is a "Ag Game Pierce Dalton doesn't like'

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

3. It's irrelevant how different the character looks if it's using your name, Sir.

You'd be surprised. Just ask Itagaki Keisuke. Plus there are exceptions to that rule. As there are to every rule relating to suich things.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Free games wouldn't harm Valve, on the contrary: they would only encourage people to buy more games if they adopt a "retribution" system like I've exemplified before.

Not likely because the OP and yourself already get the equivalent of a free game already and y'all still complaining.

This is why more businesses go bust trying to please their customers than not.
There is no pleasing the entitled.

By the way. When was the last time you gave VAlve anything for free?

Dear Start Running,

1. That's incorrect, as usual. A game might be offensive and outrageous, but this has nothing to do with technical quality, which involves factors like framerate, stability, command responsiveness, duration, etc.

2. That's not a game. I'd suggest you to purchase and refund it so you can see for yourself. You can also read some reviews, like this one:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/alekshaarledge/recommended/877360/
"NOT A GAME. 18+ is an achievement spammer with a clickbait title where you sit and endure bad jokes for 10 minutes for 5,000 achievements..."

3. I'm confident that various politicians would be surprised too, if informed they are in a videogame. Knowing politicians, I'm quite sure they would ask some money to let someone use their likeness.

4. Thank you for finally coming back to the topic.

Not likely because the OP and yourself already get the equivalent of a free game already and y'all still complaining.

What equivalent is that?

Also, I'm not complaining, I'm suggesting. In fact, I couldn't care less if Steam never gives free games to their users, because other platforms do that, remember? I can get them there.

[Constantine]

We're locking this thread as it has devolved into non-productive argument. Thanks for your understanding.