Please give us a REAL "block" feature instead of a useless "mute"

[Dale]

Failure to do so - encourages & promotes the bratty skateboard nitwits here.

I'm talking of the SAME block feature that every social media platform has:
it works BOTH ways - they can't see or respond to the blocker
thus the rest of us won't have to sift thru their bratty, nitwit crap.

You guys REALLY_DO call it a "discussions" platform for a reason, eh?
Instead, it's a prolific "pass hate mail back-and-forth". We're getting tired
of having their "bad childhood" crap shoved in our faces. Sheesh!

[nightnight]

Messaggio originale di Mad Electric Scientist:

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

It is dated because it's an old way of dealing with things online.

No, people want it to be like personal controlled spaces like their facebook or twitter pages, which is not how forums work. Users here have basic features that will not impact the discussions themselves, how they act & react to others even having a presence in being quoted is solely on them. In no way does that make it "dated".

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

In the old days we didn't even have options to block anyone online. Problematic people were usually swiftly handled by nearly 24/7 moderators as moderators we're also part of the communities they were in.

Almost like Valve should've kept Volunteer Mods, though the types of individuals you're speaking about would have curbed behavior, while paid mods/support would be the ones still punishing them for behavior with bans.

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

As the decades passed, more and more users came online and as can be seen with the Steam forums, there are too many people to individually moderate nor should it be so stringent like that. Giving users the tools to moderate their own environment is a good option.

There is so little traffic in many sections that it would be incredibly easy to moderate compared to some places I've been a part of. Even popular game hubs have so little traffic to what I'm used to, and what I could moderate and keep up with easily.

You call it "their own environment" but again are confusing a public, open space with a private controlled space where a user can determine who can even enter their own space and if they can talk to anyone within it or not. It's Valves environment where they made it for public, open discussion and setup rules so they can deal with violators or truly problematic individuals, the expectations of overall civility and lack of politics through the display of such rules.

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

And that's all I'll say about the name thing. It stands for itself.

Again, before your Post #40, no ones name in this thread could violate the rules especially if you look at full context, often of which an avatar and profile background can give you more context than an initial biased thought.
If you have an issue with someones name, you may contact them or politely ask them to change it, but they are not obligated to change it. You should only report names that blatantly violate the rules.

Even in places with little traffic there are problems. In fact the only times someone made a death threat against me have been in game hub forums...of which the punishment was a 24 hour ban and then they were free to continue berating, harassing and threatening others. We can report all the live long day and it won't solve the problem for good like what the op suggested.

Our environment is our personal space and rights to privacy while limited within the confines of the Steam forums. We are given primitive tools to moderate ourselves. This tool is already available to us in particular the block tool. I'm not really sure if this point is being missed or if you are suggesting the block feature should not exist? I don't even believe the feature should be called block as it literally does not block them. The OP defined a true block while what we have is more of a *hide*. We can hide people but still see their posts...and like I said and I will clarify all the way thought I'm sure most people know this, blocking someone does not even hide their threads from you. If you enter a blocked user's thread, you will see the entire thread as if they were unblocked. So if you have multiple people blocked or you block and don't remember names, you might mistakenly enter a thread you would not have because you made a mental note to avoid that person.

What's really interesting here is why some people think it's okay to not even block anyone as if everyone online is their friend is or is not up to no good. The internet is not a safe place to be on. This is indisputable. There are bad people here just like in real life. Except online the police can take weeks if ever to respond and it's a wild untamed atmosphere. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for improvement of a tool that already exists. It almost seems like the arguments here are that blocking is not good and if anything should be removed. Because I'm seeing every few posts or so about the behavior of people who block. I don't understand why some people would talk to literally anyone. Blocking just makes thing easier but as it stands, it's more of making a note on someone's account as 'oh, I should avoid talking with them' for whatever reason.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

So case in point, those likely to be against total block are likely to want free reign to belittle, insult, and troll others. No surprise.

Irony is the block system can be used to do just that.

I make 10 threads, all calling you and your family names, trolling, etc. All I'd need to do to prevent you from replying or reporting it? Block you.

Forums are not social media, forums work differently than social media.

[nightnight]

People still trying to justify harassing others to no end and their defense is that the person should just deal with it because why? Because people abusing others want attention and are terrified of being denied it.

[Mad Scientist]

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

People still trying to justify harassing others to no end and their defense is that the person should just deal with it because why? Because people abusing others want attention and are terrified of being denied it.

I see no user justifying such a claim nor defending such people.

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

Even in places with little traffic there are problems.

Then let moderation handle it.

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

In fact the only times someone made a death threat against me have been in game hub forums...of which the punishment was a 24 hour ban and then they were free to continue berating, harassing and threatening others. We can report all the live long day and it won't solve the problem for good like what the op suggested.

Well, if reporting is often doing nothing then chances are moderation does not agree. Especially if one starts and sustains issues with another user and baits them constantly, they could even take action against the one making the reports. August 12th.

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

Our environment is our personal space and rights to privacy while limited within the confines of the Steam forums.

Your personal space = Your profile on Steam, which can be public, friends only or totally private.
Steams public place = Forums. Anyone not banned can participate.

There is no "right to privacy" in a public space, that is what your profile is for.

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

We are given primitive tools to moderate ourselves.

Mostly known as self control.

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

This tool is already available to us in particular the block tool. I'm not really sure if this point is being missed or if you are suggesting the block feature should not exist?

You're missing the point of what a forum is, how it works, and how basically any forum works.

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

I don't even believe the feature should be called block as it literally does not block them.

It does, but it gives you the option to see what they say. It says "Block all communication" which does that, though on the forum, it gives you the option to see & interact with them.

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

blocking someone does not even hide their threads from you.

Because it's a forum.

Go to a city hall meeting, even if you dislike or hate someone they are allowed to have their topic seen & heard from, even if other people present do not like such.

If it was your personal page, blocking would prevent them from interacting with you. This is a public space with no expectation of what is said being private.

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

If you enter a blocked user's thread, you will see the entire thread as if they were unblocked.

Only the Original Post.

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

What's really interesting here is why some people think it's okay to not even block anyone as if everyone online is their friend is or is not up to no good.

I believe you're misrepresenting what someone else has said.

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

The internet is not a safe place to be on. This is indisputable. There are bad people here just like in real life.

Yet basic security keeps one safe on the internet. It's basically don't say something you'll regret, don't threaten people, etc and you'll be fine. Though if someone is starting issues but then claiming others are the bad guy, it wont go the way they believe it will.

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

Except online the police can take weeks if ever to respond and it's a wild untamed atmosphere.

There's no police here, it's Moderation. Authorities can only get involved in the most serious matters.

[Pierce Dalton]

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet. But this will not work, because say the blocker makes a thread. The thread was made by that person but that person has no control over who posts in the thread or what they post. Too many people think because they make a thread that they have a say in who posts in that thread..,.. they don't.

Easy fix: anyone can post in any thread, but posts of blocked users are invisible to you?

[BaLuX]

Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet. But this will not work, because say the blocker makes a thread. The thread was made by that person but that person has no control over who posts in the thread or what they post. Too many people think because they make a thread that they have a say in who posts in that thread..,.. they don't.

Easy fix: anyone can post in any thread, but posts of blocked users are invisible to you?

You can't read them, unless you click on them.

What if I want to read what the blocked person has posted? I.e. I have blocked several people because they are cheating in DS3 (If you block them they can't connect to your game), but I have no problem reading their posts.

But apparently you are scared of the idea that the blocked person has posted something. If you are so sensitive, you shouldn't be here in the first place.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet. But this will not work, because say the blocker makes a thread. The thread was made by that person but that person has no control over who posts in the thread or what they post. Too many people think because they make a thread that they have a say in who posts in that thread..,.. they don't.

Easy fix: anyone can post in any thread, but posts of blocked users are invisible to you?

Which is already a thing. Glad the issue is solved.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

People still trying to justify harassing others to no end and their defense is that the person should just deal with it because why? Because people abusing others want attention and are terrified of being denied it.

That is literally not happening.

[Pierce Dalton]

Messaggio originale di KittenGrindr:

Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:

Easy fix: anyone can post in any thread, but posts of blocked users are invisible to you?

Which is already a thing. Glad the issue is solved.

Nope, glad you can't notice the obvious:

If you block me but another user quotes my posts, they're visible to you.

[Pierce Dalton]

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:

Nope, glad you can't notice the obvious:

If you block me but another user quotes my posts, they're visible to you.

...and you not being able to ignore it, is your issue. No one elses'

Do you know when you're browsing the Internet and you find a spoiler by accident?

ANd YoU NOt BEInG AblE To IGnoRe iT is YouR ISsUe

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

Messaggio originale di nightnight:

People still trying to justify harassing others to no end and their defense is that the person should just deal with it because why? Because people abusing others want attention and are terrified of being denied it.

Its more like, block and move on, if you need to go back and see what that person is doing after blocking them then the only real one having an issue is the person blocker that point, ignore the person, move on, like what is literally so hard about doing that?

[Pierce Dalton]

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:

Do you know when you're browsing the Internet and you find a spoiler by accident?

ANd YoU NOt BEInG AblE To IGnoRe iT is YouR ISsUe

Weak analogy. It's not spoiler.

If your ego is so fragile, that you cannot bear to even catch a glimpse of a post from a user you blocked, then you have bigger issues that go beyond this forum.

EDIT:

As for:
"ANd YoU NOt BEInG AblE To IGnoRe iT is YouR ISsUe"

How old are you? 15?

LOL do you know how many people I have blocked?

[Dale]

Sheesh...
I can't believe I have to be explicit on something so obvious....

Sometimes I disagree with folks & they disagree with me. Fine!
At times I've been corrected and stand corrected. Fine!
NO, it is NOT blocking someone who I disagree with.
That's called discussion and NOT the issue here. Here's an example:

In Fallout3:
ME: how do you repair the android's laser rifle?
Juvenile Bratty Nitwit (that I've never seen before):
If you wern't such a ####, stupid, ####ing ######,
you'd check the Wiki for that.

OH? If the Steam "discussion" forums are not for that, then what irrelevance?

-SO-
I checked the Wiki and there was NO solution there.

Eventually an ADULT response: You haven't yet progressed far enough
in the game to meet up with the Enclave. You can use their advanced
weapons to repair yours.

Do I need to be any more EXPLICIT or will this get more & more SPIN?
duhh

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

Messaggio originale di Dale:

Sheesh...
I can't believe I have to be explicit on something so obvious....

Sometimes I disagree with folks & they disagree with me. Fine!
At times I've been corrected and stand corrected. Fine!
NO, it is NOT blocking someone who I disagree with.
That's called discussion and NOT the issue here. Here's an example:

In Fallout3:
ME: how do you repair the android's laser rifle?
Juvenile Bratty Nitwit (that I've never seen before):
If you wern't such a ####, stupid, ####ing ######,
you'd check the Wiki for that.

OH? If the Steam "discussion" forums are not for that, then what irrelevance?

-SO-
I checked the Wiki and there was NO solution there.

Eventually an ADULT response: You haven't yet progressed far enough
in the game to meet up with the Enclave. You can use their advanced
weapons to repair yours.

Do I need to be any more EXPLICIT or will this get more & more SPIN?
duhh

I mean each game has their own subforums, as far as it goes Steam games are for, yes, Steam games as in Team Fortress, CS:Go and Portal, like the fact people say to go and post in the games subsection area to get the response instead of hear indeed is what you should of done mate.

If your problem is being unable to mentally handle a childs post, there's more problems here then a block system.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Messaggio originale di Dale:

Sheesh...
I can't believe I have to be explicit on something so obvious....

Sometimes I disagree with folks & they disagree with me. Fine!
At times I've been corrected and stand corrected. Fine!
NO, it is NOT blocking someone who I disagree with.
That's called discussion and NOT the issue here. Here's an example:

In Fallout3:
ME: how do you repair the android's laser rifle?
Juvenile Bratty Nitwit (that I've never seen before):
If you wern't such a ####, stupid, ####ing ######,
you'd check the Wiki for that.

OH? If the Steam "discussion" forums are not for that, then what irrelevance?

-SO-
I checked the Wiki and there was NO solution there.

Eventually an ADULT response: You haven't yet progressed far enough
in the game to meet up with the Enclave. You can use their advanced
weapons to repair yours.

Do I need to be any more EXPLICIT or will this get more & more SPIN?
duhh

Can report person, and then mute them. But just note once in awhile, or could be a blue moon may come across an edgy overly sensitive/aggressive person that never met.

And sometimes there some people that helpful, and there people not helpful, and just want to be an ass, or trolling.

Example I posted asking for help in a discord channel, and the Dev snap at me despite we never met, and told me look up FAQ, but issue there no mentions related in the FAQ, and even did search in channel and no one gotten answer, and I was 2nd person to asked about it, I had to figure out whole problem out myself that took over a few hours to solve the issue, I told first guy that ask a week earlier than me, and he thanked me a lot, and this was for Skyrim vr btw.