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https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/7/1635237606659052006/
Do you think 5 people out of millions of users represent an opinion?
I made a suggestion with argument, you an some others are just throwing stool at the fan.
Why not try to be a useful user and debate with some argument.
Nowadays names / images / sounds are used as trademarks for digital content products, and the custom url offered by steam is just perfumery used in the account, as well as images and other things.
Other than that, people are living only on the profits of digital products, and to facilitate access to such content companies make available precisely the custom urls.
Steam is a very old company before this generation of content producers came along, so there is nothing better for it to gain more attention than attracting more and more producers, and one way to do that is by offering the recycling of names / urls / tags that Steam offers for registration.
And that's not my idea, it's something used by twitch.tv and mixer.com as an example.
So take the opportunity to really answer something that adds something. thanks.
First off if you are expecting any sort of a larger percentage of the Steam population to actually post that they don't like or do like an idea I got news for ya, they won't. How do I know this? Because we'd be seeing thousands of people posting in each thread. There are 90 million active user accounts a month, over 1 billion accounts in total. If even 1% of 1% of the 90 million responded to posts like this you'd be seeing 9000 individuals posting.
What you are seeing are the people willing to spend their time responding to threads to point out the good things (if there are any) and bad things (if there are any) about a post. Your idea happens to not have any good points about it. Its been discussed to death by the users many times.
Just because you don't like what those 5 people are saying doesn't mean what they are saying is invalid.
Second, the "trademarks" stuff has NOTHING to do with what we are talking about. We are talking about custom vanity urls that are handed out on a first come first served basis. There is no digital or real product involved its just something Valve hands out to the first one that gets it. Valve makes no money off them, the people make no money off them.
If I go on vacation for 6 months or take a year away from gaming for some reason, should I lose my custom url? Why should someone be allowed to come along and say "well that person is not using their account so I want their url". They should not be allowed to do that and I should not have to worry about leaving for X amount of months or years and come back to stuff being taken away from me just because someone couldn't come up with their own idea for a name.
I don't care if twitch or mixer uses the idea, thats all on them. They are making money off people with custom vanity urls. People know that if they want to watch a specific someone play a game on say twitch, they goto twitch.com/vanitynameurl. And while people watch that person they get hit with ads, and give people money (with twitch taking a percentage) and twitch makes something off of them. This gives them an incentive to remove the vanity url from someone who has not streamed in X amount of time and giving it to someone else who wants it.
However Steam does not make money by people coming to steam.com/vanitynameurl. They don't put ads on peoples profiles and people don't sit there for hours watching a persons profile and people don't send money to others while watching their profiles.
So whats next after you take peoples vanity profiles away, they are not playing enough so lets take it away and give it to someone else who can make more money? Don't like the games they are playing, lets give it to someone else who is playing popular games and attracts more viewers?
A users profile has nothing to do with games/programs being sold on steam, thats how Valve makes it money. Not from custom vanity urls for users. So why you are arguing for that I have no idea. It literally has nothing to do with how Valve makes money.
And again its FIRST COME FIRST SERVED. If you didn't get the custom vanity url you want, well thats just too bad isn't it. Suck it up, and think of something different.
Seems just as fair.
Ok, tangent, but still. Do you really think that if someones propperty is not used by that person or that person dies that anyone can just come and go "MINE"? Where the hell do you live where that is possible, that is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ absurd.
Now, to the point, it is not yours, find another name.
Next thing, 6 months? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ what? When you are grown up and have a job and a family and all the responsibility that comes with that then 6 months are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nothing. Good lord.
Find another name. What you want is not yours and it is none of your business how other people use what is theirs and not yours.
Well, with your answer we can see that you don't understand why other companies do it, and that's fine.
Do you use twitch.tv? Do you use mixer.com? Do you use twitter?
Well, MAYBE if you use one of them, i guess you do not know if you stay away by 10 months more or less, you will LOSE the name, anybody can not claim the name you are using, BUT if you stay offline by that far, you automatically lose your name, and that doesn't mean someone will want the same name, but that name will be available to anyone again.
And as I said, there are people who grow up and get jobs as digital producers and also build a family like everyone else in the world, the only difference is that while this person lives on resources from the internet, there are others who need to go to the mine of coal every day and think they have a vested right Ad eternum.
Oh, I am so sorry, if there are other companies who do it, then there is absolutely no issue with that of course. That was sarcasm, I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ if they do it.
They don't think they have that right, it is a privilege granted by Valve. YOU on the other hand seem to think you have a right to other peoples things if they don't use it in a way that pleases you. You LITTERALLY made the argument that if someone has propperty that they don't use, it can be taken away from them. So get of your condescending internet resources feed high horse and stop thinking that people who disagree with you are coal mining scum beneath your feet.
Find a different name. Should not be hard for someone who lives of resources from the internet as a digital producer. Right?
I just have fun with toxic responses like yours, I'm glad you answered again that made me see that I was already coming down to your level.
Other than that, you're really right in the sense that Valve currently owns the custom url for whoever gets it first.
And the suggestion is to make changes in the way it is, like other large companies, that some had no expiration rules and have now implemented, precisely because they want to see more and more users using their platforms.
With your answer we can see you're pulling stuff out of your **** to try make up stuff.
Twitter does not take away your custom url/name after X time of not using it.
Yes thats nice that there are people who grow up using a specific name for X amount of time and use that name when doing stuff on the net for work and what not.
So what happens if that person who has had that name for lets say 16 years (for how long Stema has been around) on Steam, everyone knows them by that name, they work for a billion dollar company and they have linked that name with their company, that person goes away for 6 month or a year to travel around the world for what ever reason and has zero net connections the whole time, they come back and find out that their name has been taken just because some 13 year old wanted and they were not using it.....
How does that make any sense? It doesn't.
Again your argument is that people make money with that name, yet when I explain how Steam is not making people money with that name you try to tell me I don't understand.
So please enlighten us with your great wisdom.... I have had this same name for 25+ years, 16 of those years on Steam... if I stop using steam for 6 to 12 months, why should they be allowed to take my name away from me? Just because someone else wants it to make money off of it just because I'm not? Sorry but that is not a good enough reason to take my name and/or my custom url away from me. Thats like saying, some company can come along and take your company name & trademarks just because you are not making money with them, but they will.
A digital producer they can find a new name if they find that the name they want it already taken. Its just too damn bad for them if they want a name thats already taken. Think of something different, don't copy, be original. Thats what I did. I used to go by Lord Bane in the BBS days, but I kept running into Lord Banes on the internet, so I came up with a different, more unique name.
If these "digital producers" have been using the same name for 10+ years but their name is already taken by someone else... well tough. Just because they want to make money with it doesn't give them anymore right to that custom url than the person who first took it.
Where does it all stop? You aren't making enough money with it, so we're gonna take your custom url/name because we can make better use of it. We don't like how you are using that custom url/name, so we're gonna take it and make better use of it. We're a bigger company than you, and we want that custom url/name, so we're gonna take it from you even though you have been using it for 20+ years and we just started 3 months ago.
First come first served and unless someone gets rid of it themselves or deletes their account no one should be able to take their custom url/name away from them unless it breaks the rules.
Ah, the "it was just a social experiement bro" cop-out, the go to for when you argument expires. That is pathetic. Also not agreeing with you is toxic. That high horse is stil carrying you I see. Not that I am surprised, you are about as condescending as could be expected from the entire premise of this thread.
So here we have different situations, which must be judged differently.
With the examples you gave, ended up giving me a complementary idea for the suggestion I'm making, which in this case would be:
"the time required for expiration increases with account time".
The necessary time who will judge will be Steam, I don't know how fair it would be.
Everyone here has understood that there are people like you who don't want to miss anything that Steam provided.
But everything in life changes, as does the absolute reign of Steam as a supreme store, with competitors like EPIC today.
And steam itself changed the whole format of "Friends" to something very similar to Discord, just because it was good to copy good ideas.
So I'm not coming here wisely with my proposing something, but just suggesting something that was done by other companies and that people liked.
And your answers are basically speaking the obvious, not arguing anything.
Same thing as I suggest that Steam change the default color of your window to something that is nice for dautonics too, and here you come with "Steam is blue forever and will still be blue and done".
Take this note for yourself and use it in your life for the next situations you build, not just wanting to get stuck. Speak badly anyone speaks, add that it is difficult.