Deleting a game and it's content from your account

[WittySeal]

Hey,

I have loved steam for the longest of time but there is one thing that troubles me ... I recently started trying to 100% achievement all my games and so I started to play this game, which I find completely trash so I decided to delete it (because I literally never want to see it again) but when you delete a game it doesn't remove all the content in your steam account which is really annoying because it does two things A) it means that I have to pay some more money and invest days if not weeks completing the game that I really dislike and B) it doesn't remove the trash items in my steam inventory which I doubt will ever sell.

Could you please change your code so that when you delete a game from your profile it removes not only the ability to play the game but it also removes the account statistics.

- Thanks,
WittySeal

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Nothing is permanently deleted. It is reversible. Maybe a hide feature for items...?

For achievements, I suggest SAM.

[Azkunki]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Nothing is permanently deleted. It is reversible.

Actually, it is possible. Click on the "Help" button (top left of the steam window), then "Steam Support" → "Games, Softwares, etc" → search for the game to delete, click it → "I want to permanently remove this product from my account".

And there, you can read this :

"Note: Removed products will not be automatically uninstalled nor will achievements and playtime be removed from your profile. You should uninstall before removing, or you will need to manually remove local content later. In addition, should you repurchase this game in the future, you will not receive a different CD key."

Then, if you confirm, all the listed games (the game you've chosen as well as all the games that are linked to it, such as DLCs are if you bought different games in a steam bundle) will have to be bought again if you wish to play them again in the future.

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

For achievements, I suggest SAM

Can be useful for what I call "stupid achievements" (such as "play 1 full year, at once" for Universe Sandbox (something like that), "record a video that reaches 100 000 views" with Team Fortress 2, or "don't play for 5 years" with The Stanley Parable (although still much better than the two others in my opinion, at least it's achievable by anyone. But that's still a really stupid achievement). I could also talk about "finish the game in less than 8 minutes" with Spelunky).
But it would be much better if there could not be any reason (other than "i want to cheat, whatever my reasons are") to use SAM (that stands for "Steam Achievement Manager", for those wondering). And not taking into account the achievement earned in a game we permanently removed from our library is one of the things that are needed for that.

By the way, I'm in a situation similar to WittySeal. I got Left4Dead for free, a few years ago. I picked it because I had watched a speedrun of it that made me think I might like it, despite what I would have thought otherwise. But it so happens that in the end I indeed don't like it, but I got an achievement, so it counts in the achievement stats. I tried using SAM... But not to get all the achievements, it was to remove the one I happened to unlock. Which did not work, because it's not "games with 0 achievement unlocked do not count", it's actually just updated whenever the player changes something within the achievement list (I don't know if progress bars being updated are enough, though). Which is great, this is thanks to this that when a game adds new achievements, it's not taken into account (I, for example, achieved 100% in Team Fortress 2, of course using SAM for some achievements, but there are currenlty 2 new achievements, and I do not plan to play this game again. Although I did launch the game for a short time, not so long ago (and it's now uninstalled), but I would still have to unlock one of them for the update to occur, so not a problem). But games that we remove from our library SHOULD definitely cease to count within the personal stats (could still count for global stats).


Anyway, there are a lot of things that could be done for achievements and their stats, but although I would love to see that being improved, it would take time for something that I think has almost no chance to be done, and I initially came on this forum to suggest things about something they're actually currently working on (so that I'm assuming to have much more chances to be useful, even though nothing's certain).

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Azkunki:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Nothing is permanently deleted. It is reversible.

Actually, it is possible. Click on the "Help" button (top left of the steam window), then "Steam Support" → "Games, Softwares, etc" → search for the game to delete, click it → "I want to permanently remove this product from my account".

Again...

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

It is reversible.

Ask the game devs for a reset achievement button in their game hub. But they will still count towards the total as there is no way to remove them from the completion total.



EDIT:

Originally posted by Azkunki:

Be clear about what you're talking about, or stop being condescending because people didn't understand what you were talking about. Even now I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say it's "reversible".

SwittySeal : "I started to play this game, which I find completely trash so I decided to delete it"
You : "Nothing is permanently deleted. It is reversible."
Me : "Yes it's possible to permanently delete a game"
You : "No, it is reversible", and you seem to be talking about the achievements only.

Just because I asnswered everything in one line without separating the answers does not mean that was the train of thought for the answers. This is why I only quoted the relevant info from your next response in my following reply.

Originally posted by Azkunki:

I NEVER said achievements were deleted when you permanently remove a game from your library. Actually, I was precisely saying that I know that very well and that THAT is a problem.


"there is no way to remove them from the completion total"
Of course there is a way. It's called "modifying the code". And as I said, simply ceasing to take into account games that are removed from our library would be great. And that would be easy.

People should read this...

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/492379439676975487/

[Snapjak]

Originally posted by Azkunki:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Nothing is permanently deleted. It is reversible.

Actually, it is possible. Click on the "Help" button (top left of the steam window), then "Steam Support" → "Games, Softwares, etc" → search for the game to delete, click it → "I want to permanently remove this product from my account".

And there, you can read this :

"Note: Removed products will not be automatically uninstalled nor will achievements and playtime be removed from your profile. You should uninstall before removing, or you will need to manually remove local content later. In addition, should you repurchase this game in the future, you will not receive a different CD key."

Then, if you confirm, all the listed games (the game you've chosen as well as all the games that are linked to it, such as DLCs are if you bought different games in a steam bundle) will have to be bought again if you wish to play them again in the future.

Hmmm.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1476007266

[Azkunki]

Be clear about what you're talking about, or stop being condescending because people didn't understand what you were talking about. Even now I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say it's "reversible".

SwittySeal : "I started to play this game, which I find completely trash so I decided to delete it"
You : "Nothing is permanently deleted. It is reversible."
Me : "Yes it's possible to permanently delete a game"
You : "No, it is reversible", and you seem to be talking about the achievements only.

I NEVER said achievements were deleted when you permanently remove a game from your library. Actually, I was precisely saying that I know that very well and that THAT is a problem.


"there is no way to remove them from the completion total"
Of course there is a way. It's called "modifying the code". And as I said, simply ceasing to take into account games that are removed from our library would be great. And that would be easy.



@Snapjak
I was about to send my reply when I noticed a new notification.

Very well, so that is indeed actually possible (although it changes nothing to what I wrote right above). Now, I had no way to know that when they say "OMG you will never ever be able to recover your game !", it's actually some kind of joke (they do even say that we will have to purchase the game again if we change our mind or whatever later on. This is clearly misleading). I had no way to know that, except by noticing it by chance. Which did not happen to me.

Still, what I suggested about games no longer in our library having their achievements no longer counted for personal stats still applies (although that's only a suggestion, there may be other, and maybe better ways, of doing that).

About the inventory, I said nothing about that, but for that yeah, it would be great to have a way to hide a game's library, or only the selected item. And since we're talking about that, I would have loved to say instead "the selected itemS". We should be able to select as much items as we want, so that we can then do on them all the same action. Including selling (but of course, all the items selected would be sold at the same price, so if we want a different price for an item, it would have to be done apart. And yes, I know there is an addon for that, but I prefer not to trust it, and in any case, it seems to be for chrome only, and I use Firefox, which I find much, much better, and that I trust much, much more as well).

[feytharn]

Originally posted by Azkunki:

Be clear about what you're talking about, or stop being condescending because people didn't understand what you were talking about. Even now I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say it's "reversible".

SwittySeal : "I started to play this game, which I find completely trash so I decided to delete it"
You : "Nothing is permanently deleted. It is reversible."
Me : "Yes it's possible to permanently delete a game"

And that is, where you are mistaken. The games 'deleted' through this feature can be restored the same way (Problem with a game/I can't find the game on my account etc). You don't need to pay again, you don't get a new license key - the very game you deleted gets restored.

And I doubt that Valve will ever give you an option to permanently remove a game, because account highjackings would become so much more hurtful.

[Azkunki]

Originally posted by feytharn:

And that is, where you are mistaken. The games 'deleted' through this feature can be restored the same way (Problem with a game/I can't find the game on my account etc). You don't need to pay again, you don't get a new license key - the very game you deleted gets restored.

Indeed, but I've already covered that in the second part of the very comment you're quoting.

Originally posted by feytharn:

And I doubt that Valve will ever give you an option to permanently remove a game, because account highjackings would become so much more hurtful.

True. However, they should really consider rewriting what it says when you remove a game from your library. Right now, everything makes it look like it IS permanent. People can't be blamed for believing it, there's not even a cake.

[dscDreamᵁᴬ]

i dream about "hide items option"