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White-Rino 17 DIC 2018 a las 15:04
racism
Why racist people are allowed by valve ?

for example, those two guys in my last game :

A!>NAZ1<!B Teimo
A!>NAZ1<!B AryanAxe

Is it normal for you ?

And of course, I can't report them to Valve, cuz it's not working actually...

Those two guys, just deserv a permanent BAN with games and accounts, deleted
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Matt 17 DIC 2018 a las 15:06 
You can report these accounts. At most they’d get a community ban but not having their account deleted.
White-Rino 17 DIC 2018 a las 15:09 
I can't report them, it's circling around for ever
Crazy Tiger 17 DIC 2018 a las 15:14 
Perhaps keep it to one thread: https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/3216031607505391950/

And it's not that Valve allows them, it's more that you can't possibly expect them to monitor everything.
White-Rino 17 DIC 2018 a las 15:16 
you easily can monitor when someone type niger or aryan, or nazi...
Gonna take some minutes to add something like dat, just to not allow this kind of things
Gwarsbane 17 DIC 2018 a las 15:29 
Ok so they put in a "monitor" so lets just say those 3 words.

Every time someone talks about the nazis in some game, mods/steam admins get a message about it.

Every time someone mentions the aryan idiots, mods/steam admins get a message about it.

Every time someone talks about the country niger, mods/steam admins get a message about it. (the one you want has 2 Gs in it.)

Now times that by 150 million active accounts. Even with 10,000 active paid moderators they would not be able to keep up with all the messages that the monitor is sending to them.

Thats just with 3 words. There are lots of "code" words that some of those idiots used, there are slang versions that are close to other words and so on. There is just too much for them to keep up with. Think of all the languages out there.

A monitor is pointless, its easy to get around.

If you see racist crap, copy the url, goto the persons profile, and reporting them providing a link to where they said the racist crap. Then, and heres the hard part, ignore them, because you have done all you can do.
White-Rino 17 DIC 2018 a las 15:30 
it's not even talking about, it's their name on steam app ?
don't be stupid, and don't troll, it's easy to do it...

NAZI and Aryan on the same profil, which say ♥♥♥♥ niger just after ...

It's really easy to spot & prevent
Última edición por White-Rino; 17 DIC 2018 a las 15:32
76561198407601200 17 DIC 2018 a las 15:32 
Publicado originalmente por White-Rino:
it's not even talking about, it's their name on steam app ?
don't be stupid, and don't troll, it's easy to do it...

There is no "trolling". Report the profiles, move on. If nothing happens immediately or at all for that matter, then there is nothing else that can be done.
White-Rino 17 DIC 2018 a las 15:33 
If nothing else can be done, it's cuz you don't want to...

You, people who think it's normal, it's internet, blablabla...
It's not normal, it's not internet, valve have to do something
Gwarsbane 17 DIC 2018 a las 15:37 
Publicado originalmente por White-Rino:
If nothing else can be done, it's cuz you don't want to...

You, people who think it's normal, it's internet, blablabla...
It's not normal, it's not internet, valve have to do something

I report these idiots all the time. There are more idiots than I have time of day. When I see them, I report them and move on. Thats all you and I can do.
Snapjak 17 DIC 2018 a las 15:38 
So what is your suggestion? Valve bans all forms of typing out those things? Yeah that's not going to work.

Seriously, you think you have a good way to combat it? Let's hear it.
Start_Running 17 DIC 2018 a las 15:53 
OP... did those people actually do anything like harass, or anything like that, because if not, then they're not actually breaking any rules.
Crashed 17 DIC 2018 a las 16:00 
Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:
OP... did those people actually do anything like harass, or anything like that, because if not, then they're not actually breaking any rules.
If they post discriminatory content, don't the Rules and Guidelines cover that?
Última edición por Crashed; 17 DIC 2018 a las 16:00
Gus the Crocodile 17 DIC 2018 a las 16:08 
Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:
OP... did those people actually do anything like harass, or anything like that, because if not, then they're not actually breaking any rules.
Racism is against the rules. Nazism is always racist.
Zekiran 17 DIC 2018 a las 16:14 
Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:
OP... did those people actually do anything like harass, or anything like that, because if not, then they're not actually breaking any rules.


As stated by others: those things are in fact pointedly and directly against Steam's forum conduct and WILL result in their name, avatar, or profile getting wiped.

Good. Because we don't need that here.

OP: report and block if you have to. But the sheer volume of users and valve's unwavering insistence that they not pick up paid moderation staff mean that the volunteer mods MUST rely on reports to do anything.

Automation might help for a time, but even then it often causes (as again stated above) more problems than it's worth.

The system in place right now DOES work. Having reported numerous of those types of profiles and seen the results, I know it does. That does not make those people less likely to try again with yet another type of racist slur in their name or profile. The same people usually have a long list of "banned names replaced by numbers" in their name history.

I do wish that there would be a three-strikes type rule, but that's also quite easy to abuse given the volume of people here that would gang up on someone with a grudge or that they wanted to harass.
Start_Running 17 DIC 2018 a las 16:24 
Publicado originalmente por Gus the Crocodile:
Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:
OP... did those people actually do anything like harass, or anything like that, because if not, then they're not actually breaking any rules.
Racism is against the rules. Nazism is always racist.
And you can prove that these people expouse or act on Nazi philosophy? That's sort of the key point. The word Nazi kinda goes beyond the ideology. Is Gammar-Nazi a racist phrase? Think about it. I can't say the word ♥♥♥♥, ♥♥♥♥♥, or retarded, but I can type the word Nazi. That should kinda be a clue.

Publicado originalmente por Crashed:
Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:
OP... did those people actually do anything like harass, or anything like that, because if not, then they're not actually breaking any rules.
If they post discriminatory content, don't the Rules and Guidelines cover that?
COrrect which means there has to be some actual behaviour or action. Hence my question.

therwise you shouldn't take the word Nazi, or ♥♥♥♥♥♥ in a screen name any more seriously than you would take 'Buttplugger', 'Killer', or 'YourMom' .
Última edición por Start_Running; 17 DIC 2018 a las 16:47
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