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Jackal 26. juli 2019 kl. 12:15
If people play under an hour it shouldnt be called a review, it should be called a First Impression
Free to play games that are released are plagued with people playing 0.1 hours and then writing a negative review. If you prevented people from writing a full review and only allowed them to write a "first impression" i think it would be beneficial both to the devs and to the community, as reviews would be far more accurate, and people can see the diffirence between playing for 0.1 hour and the reviews of people who actually took the time to learn about and spend time on the game
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Achievements themselves can be unlocked without actually opening or playing the game as long as you own it. For free to play games, the owning part is also completely removed.

Weighing based on hours greatly favors positive reviews. After all it stands to reason the more hours you have in a game the more likely your review is to be positive. I don't see much value in exchanging one set of problems for another.

I don't see it that way. There are more than enough cases of someone having the bare minimum in required playtime (anywhere from 10-100 hours) and giving a negative review of a game. There's even cases of people playing a game for over a thousand hours and leaving a scathing, negative review. This is because they played it and had issues with it for the entire time. The fact that they do have so much playtime means their review is trustworthy. They actually know well what they're talking about. Buying a game, getting to the title screen then exiting just so you can leave a "review" and the refund after 0.1hrs of playtime is simply not a review that should hold much weight at all and I don't believe that switching to a system that lowers those reviews' weight towards a recommendation score is at all akin to "switching one problem for another".

The issue is that with a human element involved, there's never going to be a perfect solution. All you can do is minimize the amount the system can be manipulated for malicious purposes. When the new issues arise, they get tackled at that juncture.
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cSg|mc-Hotsauce 26. juli 2019 kl. 12:17 
Then, let them idle it for another 50 hours and post the same thing...?

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Crazy Tiger 26. juli 2019 kl. 12:18 
Steam reviews are nothing else but opinions, that goes for reviews with 0,2 and 200 hours. All just opinion.

People can play offline and offline play hours aren't counted. A review with 0,2 hours could well be from someone who spent 60 hours in-game.
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Seretti 26. juli 2019 kl. 12:18 
Nope, no. If you had bothered using the search, you'd know why this is a terrible suggestion.
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Brian9824 26. juli 2019 kl. 12:25 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Jackal:
Free to play games that are released are plagued with people playing 0.1 hours and then writing a negative review. If you prevented people from writing a full review and only allowed them to write a "first impression" i think it would be beneficial both to the devs and to the community, as reviews would be far more accurate, and people can see the diffirence between playing for 0.1 hour and the reviews of people who actually took the time to learn about and spend time on the game

You already can, thats why it shows hours played. Since refunds require less then 2 hours played people are allowed to leave a review AND refund and not have to choose between the two.
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Garou 26. juli 2019 kl. 13:23 
If a game is that bad and makes someone hate it after 0.1 hours I think you would want to know about it. To save yourself trouble of refunding it later.
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Jackal 26. juli 2019 kl. 13:59 
Except that some of the games being voted bad are simply being voted bad because salty players dont like the developer.
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Jackal 26. juli 2019 kl. 13:59 
You cant hate a game after playing it for 5 mins, nor can you leave any sort of consistent or accurate review. Technically these players can literally launch the game, never even create a character, wait 5 minutes and then write a negative review
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Jackal 26. juli 2019 kl. 14:01 
even at 1 hour 59 minutes played time, (the buy and return reviews) are inaccurate because gameplay at the beginning of the majority of games is much worse than the middle or later portions.
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Start_Running 26. juli 2019 kl. 14:02 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Jackal:
You cant hate a game after playing it for 5 mins, nor can you leave any sort of consistent or accurate review.
Wrong on both accounts.
- A person can play a game for 5 minutes and be immediately turned off. Like I was for Squidlit. Didn't take me 5 mins to discover the game had no keybind options.

- And all reviews are more or less accurate in that rthey all sopeak of the writer's experience.
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Jackal 26. juli 2019 kl. 14:02 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Seretti:
Nope, no. If you had bothered using the search, you'd know why this is a terrible suggestion.
what search do you mean naysayer. if youre going to point out something "obvious" at least dont be vague and not include details. What search are you refferring too?
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Jackal 26. juli 2019 kl. 14:02 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Red_Hood:
If a game is that bad and makes someone hate it after 0.1 hours I think you would want to know about it. To save yourself trouble of refunding it later.
I specifically said free games
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Jackal 26. juli 2019 kl. 14:03 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Crazy Tiger:
Steam reviews are nothing else but opinions, that goes for reviews with 0,2 and 200 hours. All just opinion.

People can play offline and offline play hours aren't counted. A review with 0,2 hours could well be from someone who spent 60 hours in-game.
While I dont disagree, thats impossible for games that released yesterday and have over 100 negative reviews because a small subset of people dont like the dev.
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Jackal 26. juli 2019 kl. 14:04 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Start_Running:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Jackal:
You cant hate a game after playing it for 5 mins, nor can you leave any sort of consistent or accurate review.
Wrong on both accounts.
- A person can play a game for 5 minutes and be immediately turned off. Like I was for Squidlit. Didn't take me 5 mins to discover the game had no keybind options.

- And all reviews are more or less accurate in that rthey all sopeak of the writer's experience.
No they arent. if the writer is too stupid to watch a tutorial video or do any sort of learning, a game with a learning curve seems bad because they are stupid. and as far as squidlit, Im pretty sure that is not a free game, and its rated well on steam. the point is your experience is not what you write in a review, you review the game not how you feel about the game or its developers. see how one players bias doesnt mean a game is bad? you dont like squidlit but a lot of other people clearly do
Sidst redigeret af Jackal; 26. juli 2019 kl. 14:07
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Jackal 26. juli 2019 kl. 14:07 
theres a huge trend in negative reviews with very low played time on f2p games, and if you notice all the positive reviews are from players who actually spent time inside the game. it even makes me wonder if people are just making accounts and writing reviews over and over, as some of these steam accounts are level 1
Sidst redigeret af Jackal; 26. juli 2019 kl. 14:08
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Radene 26. juli 2019 kl. 14:40 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Jackal:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Start_Running:
Wrong on both accounts.
- A person can play a game for 5 minutes and be immediately turned off. Like I was for Squidlit. Didn't take me 5 mins to discover the game had no keybind options.

- And all reviews are more or less accurate in that rthey all sopeak of the writer's experience.
No they arent. if the writer is too stupid to watch a tutorial video or do any sort of learning, a game with a learning curve seems bad because they are stupid. and as far as squidlit, Im pretty sure that is not a free game, and its rated well on steam. the point is your experience is not what you write in a review, you review the game not how you feel about the game or its developers. see how one players bias doesnt mean a game is bad? you dont like squidlit but a lot of other people clearly do

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How the hell am I supposed to not include my experience in the review? That's like trying to drink a beer without a container to hold it.
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