Stop Being Greedy

[Vincent]

How about making consumer friendly decisions... Like letting friends in other countries buy games for each other. You greedy ♥♥♥♥♥. Or fixing your completely incompetent captcha. You do everything you can to squeeze money from people and claim it to be good. I really really miss the old steam.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

引用自 Tito Shivan：

引用自 Ryoga：

Buy keys from third party not steam, Problem solved. Be happy steam allows third party options

Those bought on legit third party resellers may also be non-redeemable in the destination country. Better keep an eye before purchasing for gifting.

Region locks suck and should not exist.

And while there are various things one can blame on Steam, region locking isn't really one of them, at least they weren't the ones to start this practice.

[Count_Dandyman]

引用自 Vincent：

引用自 brian9824：

How is steam greedy for saying NO to a sale because of abuse? If they were greedy they'd say yes to every sale....

Well if youre trying to buy your friend a game, and it happens to be 20 for you. But for them its 50, and the purchase is denied due to price differences or whatever reason. You're demanding 30 more dollars right? Didn't think it was that hard to follow.

And don't get semantic on me lol

that sounds more like you and your friend being greedy and wanting to abuse the fact publishers were kind enough to offer a lower price to people with less money available to just get things cheap.

You should be glad Valve stepped in and prevented it because as people have been finding out with the EU unified pricing change when it comes to having to charge everyone the same price it isn't the lower ones they decide to keep.

[Kunovega]

引用自 Quint the Alligator Snapper：

引用自 Tito Shivan：

Those bought on legit third party resellers may also be non-redeemable in the destination country. Better keep an eye before purchasing for gifting.

Region locks suck and should not exist.

And while there are various things one can blame on Steam, region locking isn't really one of them, at least they weren't the ones to start this practice.

Region locks have to exist or you can't have regional pricing.

And if you can't have regional pricing then you can't sell games in poor countries because no one will be able to afford the games there.

The entire world economy would need to change along with eliminating poor working conditions and globalizing fair trade in every corner of the globe for your request to happen.

引用自 Spawn of Totoro：

引用自 Vincent：

Fair, I may just be a bit tilted that one of my friends trying to buy me a game can't because of some stupid bureaucracy. Though I'm sure id be told is for my own good in some way or another

Your friend can send you wallet funds through Steam as those are converted to your currency.

This has been the easy solution for any friend I actually want to send a gift to. Just ask them how much they need to buy the game and then gift card them slightly more than that.

It usually ends up being less than what i would pay for the game myself anyway if I were buying them the game as a gift directly since their prices are typically lower than mine.

[Tito Shivan]

引用自 Kunovega：

Region locks have to exist or you can't have regional pricing.

And if you can't have regional pricing then you can't sell games in poor countries because no one will be able to afford the games there.

It's a damned if you do, dammned if you don't situation. I don't like them myself but I understand the reasoning behind them.

Regional pricing is a reality. Sure one can buy for cheaper in cheaperistan, but to do so you have to deal with stuff like, well, travelling there in order to purchase that cheaper stuff and then having to deal with your country import taxes and all that jazz. That causes a friction that makes generally harder to abuse said price difference

Digital purchases blow that thing. No need for travelling there, you don't have to go through customs... All the friction that make regional pricing work are erased with the purchase of digital products. Hence the need of an additional tool to introduce said friction, regional locking.

[Judgmental Amaterasu]

引用自 Vincent：

引用自 Wolf Knight：

they allow people to buy games for each other from other countries. unfortunately, bad actors have abused it and it is restricted slightly.

many of the scammers, spammers, and other bad actors also miss the old steam.

So we get ♥♥♥♥ on for a few bad people cool.

It's almost like every feature created on anything that serves as a limiting factor has been created because of a few bad apples.

[Kunovega]

引用自 Damp Wizard Sleeve：

引用自 Vincent：

So we get ♥♥♥♥ on for a few bad people cool.

It's almost like every feature created on anything that serves as a limiting factor has been created because of a few bad apples.

It's kind of the reason for governments, regulations and laws in regards to everything. Humanity is prone to taking advantage of each other in the worst possible ways and those who have any shred of decency band together and form systems to at least vaguely attempt to protect some small circle of their nearby populations. None of which are perfect because they can also be corrupted.

The entire human experience can be summed up in similar fashion.

[Tito Shivan]

引用自 Damp Wizard Sleeve：

It's almost like every feature created on anything that serves as a limiting factor has been created because of a few bad apples.

It takes more than 'a few bad apples' to change a policy that affects millions.

In regards cross region gifting it became big enough problem as to spawn a grey market, affect publisher's revenue and involve payment processors due to the ammount of credit card fraud.

[Crazy Tiger]

引用自 Vincent：

Don't know how its abuse if a friend gifts me a game that just happens to be cheaper for him in his country.

Think about all the people who have "friends" in cheaper areas gifting them games. It's a way to get games cheaper, hence it's abuse.

It's never just about your individual case, it's always about the bigger picture.

[Satoru]

引用自 Damp Wizard Sleeve：

引用自 Vincent：

So we get ♥♥♥♥ on for a few bad people cool.

It's almost like every feature created on anything that serves as a limiting factor has been created because of a few bad apples.

https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/346144/Developers_and_G2A_clash_over_the_impact_of_grey_market_keys_on_indies.php

It is not “a few bad apples”

[The HopelessGamer™]

What i never really understood with this restriction is why they never gave the option to pay the difference... Yes it becomes more expensive... but... it would give you the option at the very least...

[Count_Dandyman]

引用自 The HopelessGamer™：

What i never really understood with this restriction is why they never gave the option to pay the difference... Yes it becomes more expensive... but... it would give you the option at the very least...

Because several countries have laws against bait and switch price display that limits their ability to do that no matter how clear they make it or if customers agree to it and some countries include tax in the games price where others don't which opens up even more of a legal mess. Easier to just use a flat limit that publishers see as either an acceptable loss if cheaper and officials waiting for any excuse to raid Valves coffers will see as an acceptable variance for currency exchange + costs than to cut and limit which countries can gift and who can get them to avoid violations.

[foenem]

The thing is that prices are different and many ppl can use this for theyr own good

[jamesglen7]

Out of some 12 million members, Steam deals with international law & currencies along with an estimated 77k hackers monthly. Use a gift card instead of a game as many games may be banned in that country. Steam doesn't have time to be greedy holding down the fort.