Points used to Purchase Games

[Dragonofdarkness13]

Seriously the Points from the Points Store should also be able to be used as a rewards credit to purchase games. Because as it stands they are POINTLESS for anyone that doesn't care about making their profile flashy... I have steam to play games and that's all this is for me... a game Library. I can't speak for everyone but I'm sure I'm not alone in this.
I am currently sitting on 44,000 points, you get 100 points for every dollar you spend, so if you made 1000 points equal a dollar it would give us something back for buying our games through this platform and continue to do so.
Right now those Points don't feel like a reward of any kind, more like those long CVS receipts full of coupons most people don't use when they could be serving a practical use.

[ElvisDeadly]

Dragonofdarkness13 の投稿を引用：

I am currently sitting on 44,000 points, you get 100 points for every dollar you spend, so if you made 1000 points equal a dollar .

How many users do you think Steam has?

How many do you think are in a similair situation to you, sitting on tens of thousands of points?

How much do you think it would cost Valve to give away that much free money?

[Wolf Knight]

we could always go back to what we had before the points store, nothing. no points, no one begging for points, no one begging to use their points to get free stuff (is this todays thread?)

[Dragonofdarkness13]

Wolf Knight の投稿を引用：

we could always go back to what we had before the points store, nothing. no points, no one begging for points, no one begging to use their points to get free stuff (is this todays thread?)

Begging? I didn't start this post to 'Beg' for 'Free' stuff... They are giving us reward points on our purchases, other markets that do this allow those reward points to be used to purchase the goods they offer as a loyalty reward. I am only suggesting that if Steam is going to offer these points they allow us to do the same and not just stickers to put on your membership cards.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Dragonofdarkness13 の投稿を引用：

They are giving us reward points on our purchases, other markets that do this allow those reward points to be used to purchase the goods they offer as a loyalty reward. I am only suggesting that if Steam is going to offer these points they allow us to do the same and not just stickers to put on your membership cards.

You'd be surprised how easy meme content is awarded with hundreds of awards.

There have been a few threads complaining about it the last few months.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/2974023911550170856/

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/7/2976275080116322939/

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3004430047200976027/

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/2953755177909010958/

Literally farming points with junk.

[Aachen]

They haven’t even bothered to offer the voucher the last couple events. Thousand-to-the-dollar is rather optimistic for one with year-round availability.

[Dragonofdarkness13]

ElvisDeadly の投稿を引用：

Dragonofdarkness13 の投稿を引用：

I am currently sitting on 44,000 points, you get 100 points for every dollar you spend, so if you made 1000 points equal a dollar .

How many users do you think Steam has?

How many do you think are in a similair situation to you, sitting on tens of thousands of points?

How much do you think it would cost Valve to give away that much free money?

The amount I proposed doesn't have to be exact and regardless of how many users and people sharing my situation there are these Points are based on the Money we are giving steam... if they were based on hours played or something like that I wouldn't have suggested this. However they are giving us reward points on purchases and we only have access to valueless decorations to spend them on... in the long run they wouldn't lose out on much more than they would if a game goes on sale because we have to put in money to get the Points and then at most we'd get 1 purchase out of them before having to pile up more.

[nullable]

Well let's think about this, before the points shop was implemented there were like a dozen events previously that had event specific point schemes and they work shopped all sorts of things, including letting users use points to buy $5 in store credit. In the final implementation they didn't include using points for anything of value. So do you think they completely forgot that points could be used that way?

Lots of people have this great idea that you've proposed. Many of them make the exact same statements "they don't just want free stuff", "other markets allow those reward points to be used to purchase goods". Almost no one stop to consider that Valve had the option and chose not to implement it. Why didn't the implement it? You might want to get a handle on those reasons to help your idea out.

At the end of the day you can't avoid reasons behind decisions already made just because you want something different. You have to be able to address those in addition to your suggested changes.

[Dragonofdarkness13]

Aachen の投稿を引用：

They haven’t even bothered to offer the voucher the last couple events. Thousand-to-the-dollar is rather optimistic for one with year-round availability. :lifetree::orb::smallfire:

Was for sake of Example ... I don't know their daily income and expenses

[WEMD :)]

Interesante

[nullable]

Dragonofdarkness13 の投稿を引用：

ElvisDeadly の投稿を引用：

How many users do you think Steam has?

How many do you think are in a similair situation to you, sitting on tens of thousands of points?

How much do you think it would cost Valve to give away that much free money?

The amount I proposed doesn't have to be exact and regardless of how many users and people sharing my situation there are these Points are based on the Money we are giving steam... if they were based on hours played or something like that I wouldn't have suggested this. However they are giving us reward points on purchases and we only have access to valueless decorations to spend them on... in the long run they wouldn't lose out on much more than they would if a game goes on sale because we have to put in money to get the Points and then at most we'd get 1 purchase out of them before having to pile up more.

Well lets be clear, you didn't give Steam money. You bought a game, and you got a game. And you also get some worthless points to buy useless digital trinkets for fun. And your argument is Steam should use those worthless points to subsidize game purchases because they wouldn't lose that much money?

Well I'm not a Business major, but sounds like a bad business logic to me. And I doubt it's the kind of thinking that has help Valve to be successful.

At the end of the day how do you address that Valve tinkered with the idea for years and didn't implement points for games? It's clearly a deliberate choice on their part. Not an oversight.

[76561198407601200]

Hey, this topic again. Who knows, maybe the 80th time of asking to get free games may work.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Here is a good answer...

Tito Shivan の投稿を引用：

They no longer give away coupons.

Those coupons probably had more to do with Steam experimenting what to do with their point system than trying to compete with Epic's sale coupons.
The fact the coupons stopped exactly the very moment the points shop became a thing would only reinforce that theory.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/12/3094515496014636144/?ctp=9#c3094515496027999389

[Yzal]

You know how much your 44,000 points are worth? exactly $0. What can you buy with that?, points don't have monetary value.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

We see some variation of this thread daily....people refuse to acknowledge that Steam doesn't set game prices, the devs do.

[Start_Running]

Dragonofdarkness13 の投稿を引用：

Seriously the Points from the Points Store should also be able to be used as a rewards credit to purchase games. Because as it stands they are POINTLESS for anyone that doesn't care about making their profile flashy... I have steam to play games and that's all this is for me... a game Library. I can't speak for everyone but I'm sure I'm not alone in this.

So you want to use the after dinner mints to pay for a meal..

I am currently sitting on 44,000 points, you get 100 points for every dollar you spend, so if you made 1000 points equal a dollar it would give us something back for buying our games through this platform and continue to do so.

Okay..:
1. Give something back. It was an exchange of equal value. Its not like you gave them money out of the goodness of your heart. You gave them money and they gave you a game in exchange.

2. The Points *are* the rewardd for shopping at steam.

Right now those Points don't feel like a reward of any kind, more like those long CVS receipts full of coupons most people don't use when they could be serving a practical use.

That's your problem m8. I know plenty of peopkle who use those coupons and I rforone like being able to quickly pick up some nice swag.


Valve is not going to give you back more money than they make from you.

Lets do some math. 1000 points is a $10 of spending. DO you know how much Valve got from that $10's?. $3-$2 That's how much they got from your whopping $10 purchase. And out of that comes the transaction fees, their overhead etc. And you want them to give you back a third to a half of their take so you can acquire a game a transaction they will make no money from mind you.

Yeah no. At best you may be able to buy a coupon during the next sale but considering that seems to have been done away with I wouldn't hold my breath.