VAC Banned Users Should be Allowed to Vote on F2P Game Reviews

[(C)FatheredPuma81]

The point of it is to block bots correct? There are better ways to block bots. There are also give assumptions you can make such as an account with 100+ games purchased over the course of almost 10 years is not a bot.

I've decided to also leave this discussion. it has become derailed with mostly "Don't cheat bro." which would imply I cheated then, am currently still cheating now, and that stopping would somehow allow me to vote.
Also, no, I don't want to make a new account and give Valve tons of money every 5-6 years or whatever the average false ban time is just to have a clean.
I should probably stop here before I end up derailing my own discussion.

If you want to find the old post that most people replied to I've archived it on the wayback machine.

[Tito Shivan]

The problem with VAC Banned accounts is they're usually sold out once banned to spammers and hijackers to either scam users or use it as bots in order to commento or upvote content.

There's the ocassional user who sticks with their VAC banned account but, for the most part, these accounts end up sold to toxic actors in bulk, hence the restrictions.

[Mad Scientist]

Well, you don't just get a VAC Ban for "I decided to play CS:GO one day after 3+ months of not playing it and Valve just didn't like that. "

You get a VAC Ban for cheating, which includes altering files.

Of course you can't review a game you're banned from.

[Radene]

Originally posted by Mr. Gentlebot:

Of course you can't review a game you're banned from.

You can do even that, except that you have to post it on your blog or something.

[(C)FatheredPuma81]

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

The problem with VAC Banned accounts is they're usually sold out once banned to spammers and hijackers to either scam users or use it as bots in order to commento or upvote content.

There's the ocassional user who sticks with their VAC banned account but, for the most part, these accounts end up sold to toxic actors in bulk, hence the restrictions.

I'm really bad at making 1st posts. I edited and fixed the post.

Originally posted by Mr. Gentlebot:

Well, you don't just get a VAC Ban for "I decided to play CS:GO one day after 3+ months of not playing it and Valve just didn't like that. "

You get a VAC Ban for cheating, which includes altering files.

Of course you can't review a game you're banned from.

I mean it is a very accurate summary of my 1/3 page prntscr explanation. If you don't like either explanation I can't help you.
But I can review the game I'm banned from?? I just can't vote on reviews for games I've reviewed and have put money into because they're free...

[nullable]

I don't think Valve has made a mistake that needs adjusting. Cheating has consequence. If you don't like the consequences don't cheat. Or otherwise be careful with your account. There shouldn't be special cases where the consequences don't apply to you.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by (C)FatheredPuma81:

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

The problem with VAC Banned accounts is they're usually sold out once banned to spammers and hijackers to either scam users or use it as bots in order to commento or upvote content.

There's the ocassional user who sticks with their VAC banned account but, for the most part, these accounts end up sold to toxic actors in bulk, hence the restrictions.

I'm really bad at making 1st posts. I edited and fixed the post.

Originally posted by Mr. Gentlebot:

Well, you don't just get a VAC Ban for "I decided to play CS:GO one day after 3+ months of not playing it and Valve just didn't like that. "

You get a VAC Ban for cheating, which includes altering files.

Of course you can't review a game you're banned from.

I mean it is a very accurate summary of my 1/3 page prntscr explanation. If you don't like either explanation I can't help you.
But I can review the game I'm banned from?? I just can't vote on reviews for games I've reviewed and have put money into because they're free...

Yep, you can leave a personal review which can be flagged if it breaks the rules, but you lose the ability to rate other people's reviews and influence which reviews are shown because you've proven your not trustworthy by cheating.

Next time don't cheat.

[adz]

Originally posted by Snakub Plissken:

I don't think Valve has made a mistake that needs adjusting. Cheating has consequence. If you don't like the consequences don't cheat. Or otherwise be careful with your account. There shouldn't be special cases where the consequences don't apply to you.

yup, its true its simple dont cheat. when i used to play cs many years ago it was extremely annoying playing with cheaters not talking about pub matches more like pugs/scrims/tournaments its not fair and ruins the experience for all.

OP, all my steam gaming i have NEVER cheated because the consequences would be very devastating because ive been with steam since the beginning.

[Gilga ™ |Yonaguni|]

The rules are for all the same, i don`t get why the number of games you own, should matter, you can get 100 Steam games for less then 10 Euro.

[Zekiran]

The quantity of games is absolutely irrelevant to whether someone cheated.

If their account got caught cheating, they don't get to vote. Period.

If someone has lots and lots of games and wants to keep their account free from vac restricted things... they need to never cheat, or keep their account secured from being stolen and then cheated with by hijackers. If it's valuable to that person, they need to step up.

Given your profile, that's exactly the kind of post I'd expect to see. Most people with bans that old would have figured out not to put any new games on an account and start fresh?

[Satoru]

Maybe you know, dont cheat, and then your problem goes away

If you really need to know the full story is on my Steam account.

The 'full story' is apparently "i didn't cheat but you know i have a vac ban and im a victim". SUUREE buddy.

[76561198407601200]

Originally posted by Satoru:

If you really need to know the full story is on my Steam account.

The 'full story' is apparently "i didn't cheat but you know i have a vac ban and im a victim". SUUREE buddy.

Anyone who has a "story" behind their ban in my book did in fact cheat. To me it is equivalent of a child accidentally breaking something in the house, parents question it, child states they didn't do it when clearly they were the only other person there.

[(C)FatheredPuma81]

Originally posted by Snakub Plissken:

I don't think Valve has made a mistake that needs adjusting. Cheating has consequence.

Exactly and the consequence should be to not allow them to play the game. Imagine if government ran on this policy of not only putting them into prison but retroactively adding punishments

Originally posted by brian9824:

Next time don't cheat.

You act as if VAC bans go away eventually lol.

Originally posted by adz:

OP, all my steam gaming i have NEVER cheated because the consequences would be very devastating because ive been with steam since the beginning.

Same, didn't work. Luckily the game I played often removed that requirement for their events.

Originally posted by Gilga ™ |Yonaguni|:

The rules are for all the same, i don`t get why the number of games you own, should matter, you can get 100 Steam games for less then 10 Euro.:

Because the point of it is to stop bots? So a botter is willing to spent $10+ on each VAC banned account they buy but isn't willing to spend $5 on brand new accounts? Lol?

Originally posted by Zekiran:

The quantity of games is absolutely irrelevant to whether someone cheated.

If their account got caught cheating, they don't get to vote. Period.

If someone has lots and lots of games and wants to keep their account free from vac restricted things... they need to never cheat, or keep their account secured from being stolen and then cheated with by hijackers. If it's valuable to that person, they need to step up.

Given your profile, that's exactly the kind of post I'd expect to see. Most people with bans that old would have figured out not to put any new games on an account and start fresh?

You seem to miss the point of why it was added in the first place. Your 3nd statement is false. I'm not making a new Steam account.

Originally posted by Satoru:

Maybe you know, dont cheat, and then your problem goes away

It literally doesn't?

Originally posted by The Living Tribunal:

Anyone who has a "story" behind their ban in my book did in fact cheat. To me it is equivalent of a child accidentally breaking something in the house, parents question it, child states they didn't do it when clearly they were the only other person there.

Ah the good ol' "He isn't replying he's a cheater!" "Only a cheater would reply to hackusations!" argument.


https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810 Also to those who didn't, please follow the rules.

[Zekiran]

Son if you think that people who've been to prison aren't still being punished the rest of their lives even after they're released, you need to research metaphors before spewing nonsense.

I'm not making a new Steam account.

Yet that is the single, solitary thing that can rid your account of this restriction.

Pretty simple math, huh Bob?

[Eisaku]

How it ended typing about people being in prisions

[Zekiran]

Originally posted by 1RST SPEED XP-SILVER:

How it ended typing about people being in prisions

Hey, when a vac-banned account starts whining about how they're being unfairly treated and refuse to do the simplest of things to fix that problem... They feel like they're in Steam User Jail TM. *shrug*