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lx Nov 1, 2020 @ 1:03am
valve(steam) hardware survey
i was just offered a survey.by steam.
it said its anonymous, collects data, and so on.
i dont mind sharing, my pc configuration, but the "anonymous" data mining, is not the way, i would do it.
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Originally posted by Supafly:
Originally posted by lx:
the data they( and all others) collect, include private data.
example is, your os account name. this is data, i dont want to share.
my os account username contains my bank account, my home address, my name and the size of my ding-ding-dong(because nobody has access to it. why not 🤨).

...more comments... ahh yes. the stupid people... no comment


My OS does not use my real name. It uses a user name. One that I only use for for my OS windows account.

The survey can't determine or link my address, age, gender, bank or payment details . Even if you have a document and pictures of your ding dong it wouldn't be collected.

How do you suppose Valve collect the data?

User questionnaire. Majority of people won't be bothered to spend time filling it in. Plus There would be no way to confirm what a users puts as answers is in anyway accurate. Some will lie to make them feel better. Over compensate. For example plenty of guys brag about the size of their ding dong adding an inch or more all the time.

The survey takes no more than a simple click I agree and no effort by the user. The data does not need to be corroborated either.

You don't know exactly what the collected data entails. While __t___e_t showed some stuff that could be used for identification no one has any idea if Valve bothers collecting that type of data field.

Bottom line is if you don't like some of the data fields it collects then don't agree.
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About47Pandas Nov 1, 2020 @ 1:10am 
Anonymous meaning they are not attaching your personal information to it. They are just collecting who has what OS/GPU/CPU etc etc and not attaching anything identifiable about you in the survey.
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Crazy Tiger Nov 1, 2020 @ 1:13am 
So you rather have that it's NOT anonymous, OP?
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Username Nov 1, 2020 @ 1:20am 
Your PC hardware is not really something problematic on that topic.
There are other things far more problematic, and no one cares about it
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Zekiran Nov 1, 2020 @ 1:39am 
I don't think you understand what 'anonymous' means, OP.

It means that the system collects the data about individual pieces of your system, but NOT 'who' you are.

Allow it to do the survey, it helps developers and steam's coders figure out what sorts of hardware the steam client and games are being run on. How many video cards are of x or y type, the processor speed, whatever. Those are very important in determining trends, but they don't rely on knowing who is using them, just what's being used.

If it was NOT anonymous I'd be very, very worried...
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Supafly Nov 1, 2020 @ 1:46am 
2 options

1. Anonymous
2. Un-anonymous/identifiable

1. Means the data they collect is not tied to a username/account/YOU
2. Means data collected is tied to user/account/YOU and could be used to identify you at a later date/time.

I fail to see why you have an issue with the data not being linked to the user it is collected from. After all the survey is only collecting the hardware and OS that users are using for comparison to previous surveys. Nothing about it needs to know who a user is. If it required identifiable information less people would agree to take part in the survey
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Username Nov 1, 2020 @ 1:49am 
This is anonymous
You will never be able to find out who i am
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/S2Bud1DYcOj2gPR7SfYxxBf

At least as long as the user is not so stupid to use his real name for his Windows ID
Last edited by Username; Nov 1, 2020 @ 1:50am
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lx Nov 1, 2020 @ 2:01am 
the data they( and all others) collect, include private data.
example is, your os account name. this is data, i dont want to share.
my os account username contains my bank account, my home address, my name and the size of my ding-ding-dong(because nobody has access to it. why not 🤨).

...more comments... ahh yes. the stupid people... no comment(p.s. they are minority)
Last edited by lx; Nov 1, 2020 @ 2:07am
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About47Pandas Nov 1, 2020 @ 2:02am 
Originally posted by __t___e_t:
This is anonymous
You will never be able to find out who i am
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/S2Bud1DYcOj2gPR7SfYxxBf

At least as long as the user is not so stupid to use his real name for his Windows ID

I know who you are, you are behind in the times-- using windows 7... but no so far behind that you still have an optical drive.

"AutoUpdate: Disabled" --- Not like you need it anyways amirte lol.

And ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥--- your RAM speed is 800mhz? Am I reading that right??? Jesus, that is slow as cheese, homie. -- Isnt that the slowest ram can get with DDR2?
Last edited by About47Pandas; Nov 1, 2020 @ 2:06am
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Username Nov 1, 2020 @ 2:08am 
Its DDR3, RAM speed was not relevant at that time. (2% systemperformance for 3time the price)
And i will not upgrade this system to windows 10.
my next PC will have windows 10
(Thats a temporary idea i will (probably) include the new CPU and GPU released these days, aka ryzen 5900x and the GPU with the performance between 3800 and 3900)
https://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-1748422

Table made with passmark points and German Hardware Prices.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTmcZ8xGXyhq4lbwmoE4x4iQl5kNPGj8xDoNIiJLK8EQTLTEmFUs8u5JlrVhg469P1NouUKiAWtIx6h/pubhtml
Last edited by Username; Nov 1, 2020 @ 2:13am
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Supafly Nov 1, 2020 @ 2:15am 
Originally posted by lx:
the data they( and all others) collect, include private data.
example is, your os account name. this is data, i dont want to share.
my os account username contains my bank account, my home address, my name and the size of my ding-ding-dong(because nobody has access to it. why not 🤨).

...more comments... ahh yes. the stupid people... no comment


My OS does not use my real name. It uses a user name. One that I only use for for my OS windows account.

The survey can't determine or link my address, age, gender, bank or payment details . Even if you have a document and pictures of your ding dong it wouldn't be collected.

How do you suppose Valve collect the data?

User questionnaire. Majority of people won't be bothered to spend time filling it in. Plus There would be no way to confirm what a users puts as answers is in anyway accurate. Some will lie to make them feel better. Over compensate. For example plenty of guys brag about the size of their ding dong adding an inch or more all the time.

The survey takes no more than a simple click I agree and no effort by the user. The data does not need to be corroborated either.

You don't know exactly what the collected data entails. While __t___e_t showed some stuff that could be used for identification no one has any idea if Valve bothers collecting that type of data field.

Bottom line is if you don't like some of the data fields it collects then don't agree.
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Username Nov 1, 2020 @ 2:23am 
Originally posted by About47Pandas:
I know who you are, you are behind in the times-- using windows 7... but no so far behind that you still have an optical drive.
well i have
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0823JNN8R

For the case i need it.
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About47Pandas Nov 1, 2020 @ 2:37am 
Originally posted by __t___e_t:
Originally posted by About47Pandas:
I know who you are, you are behind in the times-- using windows 7... but no so far behind that you still have an optical drive.
well i have
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0823JNN8R

For the case i need it.

I was just yanking your chain-- I have two disc drives-- but I use it to burn my mom audio books since for some reason she can't wrap her head around using her phone as a method of listening to media. She also doesn't like using the original disks-- so she buys'm then I burn'm, and she stores the originals.
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Tito Shivan Nov 1, 2020 @ 2:52am 
Originally posted by lx:
the data they( and all others) collect, include private data.
example is, your os account name. this is data, i dont want to share.
my os account username contains my bank account, my home address, my name and the size of my ding-ding-dong(because nobody has access to it. why not 🤨).

...more comments... ahh yes. the stupid people... no comment(p.s. they are minority)
Some of those data points serve the purpose to uniquely identify the system so it doesn't get surveyed twice and are not used later in the survey.

And Steam is pretty transpatent on showing sll the data that's been gathered so the user can make the best informed decision about if they want to send that information or not.
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About47Pandas Nov 1, 2020 @ 3:14am 
Originally posted by Tito or Treat:
Originally posted by lx:
the data they( and all others) collect, include private data.
example is, your os account name. this is data, i dont want to share.
my os account username contains my bank account, my home address, my name and the size of my ding-ding-dong(because nobody has access to it. why not 🤨).

...more comments... ahh yes. the stupid people... no comment(p.s. they are minority)
Some of those data points serve the purpose to uniquely identify the system so it doesn't get surveyed twice and are not used later in the survey.

And Steam is pretty transpatent on showing sll the data that's been gathered so the user can make the best informed decision about if they want to send that information or not.

[insertkobedunk.gif]
Last edited by About47Pandas; Nov 1, 2020 @ 3:14am
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lx Nov 1, 2020 @ 11:00pm 
i have agreed to this in the past and i dont remember seeing the data collected and offered to agree with it, being sent. nor the message said anything useful. i can not trust valve to be the only one honest data miner.
i remember that it showed me some global data of pc configurations after, but that is not all that has been stolen(?) from my pc.
one good thing is that it asks to do it. some do not.

the reply that some global moderator decided to mark as an answer says:"You don't know exactly what the collected data entails. ..." and ."...no one has any idea if Valve bothers collecting that type of data...".
the anonymous is the first thing that came to my mind from this unknown data collected. and i give example that many data miners collect private data, which is not anonymous.
the very thing is called USER/ACCOUNT NAME.
user name is, by far, not the only way to collect data just once.
"Some of those data points serve the purpose to uniquely identify the system so it doesn't get surveyed twice ..." - this makes the data NOT ANONYMOUS
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