ban(ish) games with launchers

[lx]

many games come with launchers and many are not integrated with steam. thats not cool.
tell those devs to get their staff together and make a proper support for the steam platform, or get their stuff out of here and use only their sites to provide the games.

many... thats actually becoming a standard. why would anyone need steam then? steam, your existence is in danger, act now.

i rely on steam as a trustworthy source, but this is not the case with those launchers. they make modifications after steam, download, upload, spy, require agreements, new accounts, ...

[Brian9824]

Origineel geplaatst door lx:

🙈 🙉 🙊

Cool mods can go ahead and lock the thread now since the OP isn't going to view it, listen to it, or talk to it.

[FOXDUDE69]

In an ideal world, Steam wouldn't allow third party launchers nor DRM nor broken games nor that trash that wouldn't even measure up to shovelware.
But Valve is like an absentee landlord who left his building fall into disrepair and only cares about collecting his money.

[Crashed]

Origineel geplaatst door AustrAlien2010:

You should know that there is a large yellow field on the store page, where it tells you if there is an additional account required or not.

Some games might have an external launcher but not require an account; simply utilizing Steam to get the licensing info and passing it on to the game itself.

[lx]

Origineel geplaatst door FOXDUDE:

In an ideal world, ... .

so bad, the world is "as is" and we cant do anything about it, cause there are more than 3 wise monkeys in it

[Mad Scientist]

Origineel geplaatst door Crashed:

Origineel geplaatst door AustrAlien2010:

You should know that there is a large yellow field on the store page, where it tells you if there is an additional account required or not.

Some games might have an external launcher but not require an account; simply utilizing Steam to get the licensing info and passing it on to the game itself.

Honestly that's one of my favorite things about steam. Rather than having to do a full account process.

It also makes using launchers within steam far more convinent.

[Gus the Crocodile]

A game itself can do all the apparently worrisome things that a “launcher” can do. If you distrust a particular developer to the point of thinking their launcher is spying on you maliciously, I’m not sure why you’d want their software on your computer at all, regardless of whether they stopped having a launcher.

[The End]

Origineel geplaatst door Gus the Crocodile:

A game itself can do all the apparently worrisome things that a “launcher” can do. If you distrust a particular developer to the point of thinking their launcher is spying on you maliciously, I’m not sure why you’d want their software on your computer at all, regardless of whether they stopped having a launcher.

You hit the nail, afraid of the launcher but not the game from the same publisher/developer, seems a bit dumb imo.

[nullable]

It's just a rationalization to repeat over and over. Not liking additional launchers isn't a strong enough argument. Exaggerating and spreading FUD about security concerns though seems a bit more serious.

[Sleepy Yoshi]

Origineel geplaatst door The End:

Origineel geplaatst door 8bitbeard:

Personally, I would rather have the game on Steam even if it opens another launcher than not have the game on Steam at all. I mean, I would rather it not need another launcher, but I'll cope if it does.

I agree 100%


I have no issues with it as long I can get my games on Steam I'm satisfied.

The above sums up my thoughts as well. For multiplayer titles and titles that are sold on multiple storefronts and/or directly by the developer themselves, I can see why a launcher may exist. I don't really have any issue's with this and I actually appreciate it in some games, where I can log in with a unique ID, rather than it being tied directly to my Steam name.

Warframe being an example of the above.

[Tito Shivan]

Origineel geplaatst door Gus the Crocodile:

A game itself can do all the apparently worrisome things that a “launcher” can do. If you distrust a particular developer to the point of thinking their launcher is spying on you maliciously, I’m not sure why you’d want their software on your computer at all, regardless of whether they stopped having a launcher.

It's a funny part of all these discussions.
People putting all the evil on a single object helps them rationalize where to put their anger.

An anger that most of the time comes from people not knowing how to read TOS and clickbaity sites stirring the controversy pot for a few views.

I concede game launchers (as additional game clients) can be annoying as they're like popups, an interruption between you choosing to play and actually playing.

[FOXDUDE69]

Origineel geplaatst door lx:

Origineel geplaatst door FOXDUDE:

In an ideal world, ... .

so bad, the world is "as is" and we cant do anything about it, cause there are more than 3 wise monkeys in it

Well, we can. At least I can. I can take my patronage to the Epic Games Store if they end up building a better platform over time. Failing that, there's GOG, which is, in my eyes, already better in some ways and I've already built a decent library there.

Not a solution for Steam Loyalists but I don't have such problems. As I don't like to reward mediocrity.

[hCerisu ❤]

I feel like if developers weren't able to integrate their games with their platform, fewer of them would choose to put their games on Steam. It could be viewed as a necessary evil, yes, but it's a good thing for the platform overall for companies to have this sort of freedom over the product they distribute.

[Tito Shivan]

Origineel geplaatst door FOXDUDE:

Well, we can. At least I can. I can take my patronage to the Epic Games Store if they end up building a better platform over time.

So far they seem to have the same 'hads off' approach to game with launchers.

Origineel geplaatst door FOXDUDE:

Failing that, there's GOG, which is, in my eyes, already better in some ways and I've already built a decent library there.

And GOG is most probably travelling in an opposite direction. It wouldn't surprise me if they evolved in a Steam-like manner. They adopted Early Access too, Now they sell Uplay keys (Launcher)... Don't be surprised the day they sell DRM protected games in the future

[lx]

fun fact: this has become a very hot topic, full of opponents to the suggestion. :D
i even get negative personal messages on my profile.
like i touched a nerve, or something

[Crazy Tiger]

You want Valve to remove games other people like because of a personal preference. Did you really expect people to simply agree with you?

I mean, I can certainly understand not liking the additional launchers, but I can not understand wanting to limit purchasing options for others when those people have no issue with them.