Ben Dover Feb 15, 2018 @ 11:57pm
Bans, gamepad and some minor changes
Gamepad.

I use DS3 controller, but it works in games only with custom program.
Technically, OS views DS3 as Xbox controller, so it's not the best solution.
It would be a lot easier if Valve can somehow make DS3/4 controller work with Steam games, without separate tools.

Bans.

There are too many trash cheater accounts.
They get restrictions in games they received ban in, but in other games they are "clean".
That doesn't make sense at all. Scum will remain scum.

Any in-game ban should restrict player access in other online games.
Not all games have good protection against cheaters by default.
Valve should cooperate with developers in that matter.

Ex:
Banned in one game - Limits in another.
Banned in two games - No online for you.

Do i need to mention that many use family share?

Global (all forums, review comments etc) bans should be a thing.
For now it's the same ancient story.

"Toxic", "cancer" and other type of users occupied a lot of forums.
Should Valve be forced to act like in other cases? (Aka refunds)

SW:BF15 was the only game i played online in Origin and yet i haven't seen even half amount of "cancer" Steam has.
Not in game and not on forums.

If people are being bullied or their lives sucks, it's not an excuse to spoil all the fun of common players.

Minor changes are smaller size of game icons in wishlist and name filter.
Also i would like to mark reviews as helpful and fun at the same time.

Last edited by Ben Dover; Feb 15, 2018 @ 11:58pm
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76561198001062896 Feb 16, 2018 @ 1:37am 
The ban system is unlikely to be applied to all games with online part, it would open up a huge can of worms that Im sure Valve would rather not tackle

"It would be a lot easier if Valve can somehow make DS3/4 controller work with Steam games, without separate tools."

go and ask devs and publishers to implement controller support for these specific controllers, Valve cannot do it for ya


"Valve should cooperate with developers in that matter.
"

devs can choose to use VAC free of charge or their own proprietary AC system if they want to, but no system is failproof, unless you make them super-invasive which is something nobody wants


"Global (all forums, review comments etc) bans should be a thing.
For now it's the same ancient story."

what do you mean by this?


"SW:BF15 was the only game i played online in Origin and yet i haven't seen even half amount of "cancer" Steam has.
Not in game and not on forums.
"

good for you then, feel free to use Origin more


"If people are being bullied or their lives sucks, it's not an excuse to spoil all the fun of common players."

hate to break this to you but this is the internet, its impossible to create a safespace completely toxic-proof



Ben Dover Feb 16, 2018 @ 2:42am 
Global ban means that when scum gets ban in one place (from game forum reports or from profile reports), he/she will loose the ability to write comments everywhere on Steam.
Reporting each comment, image etc. is a waste of time and Steam moderators are very picky when it comes to bans.
Rules are joke. Current state of Steam forums is a proof of that.

Steam does have configuration screen for different gamepads and if i remember correctly, last time i checked BP mode it had DS4 option.
I don't see a reason to remap buttons, if controller doesn't work in first place.

Last two parts is childish idiocy. Not surprised at all.
76561198001062896 Feb 16, 2018 @ 4:22am 
Originally posted by Son of the Dragon:
Global ban means that when scum gets ban in one place (from game forum reports or from profile reports), he/she will loose the ability to write comments everywhere on Steam.
Reporting each comment, image etc. is a waste of time and Steam moderators are very picky when it comes to bans.
Rules are joke. Current state of Steam forums is a proof of that.

Steam does have configuration screen for different gamepads and if i remember correctly, last time i checked BP mode it had DS4 option.
I don't see a reason to remap buttons, if controller doesn't work in first place.

Last two parts is childish idiocy. Not surprised at all.


rules are a joke? care to elaborate?

and im pretty sure OP meant controller option for third party games, something that Valve has zero control over, not the Big Picture mode
Last edited by Zetikla; Feb 16, 2018 @ 4:22am
Ben Dover Feb 16, 2018 @ 6:10am 
Originally posted by Zetikla:
Originally posted by Son of the Dragon:
Global ban means that when scum gets ban in one place (from game forum reports or from profile reports), he/she will loose the ability to write comments everywhere on Steam.
Reporting each comment, image etc. is a waste of time and Steam moderators are very picky when it comes to bans.
Rules are joke. Current state of Steam forums is a proof of that.

Steam does have configuration screen for different gamepads and if i remember correctly, last time i checked BP mode it had DS4 option.
I don't see a reason to remap buttons, if controller doesn't work in first place.

Last two parts is childish idiocy. Not surprised at all.


rules are a joke? care to elaborate?

and im pretty sure OP meant controller option for third party games, something that Valve has zero control over, not the Big Picture mode
I don't. I don't want to repeat same things.
You are either ignorant or deluded person, if you believe that everything is okay now.

OP won't agree with you on that =].
OP meant DS controller support for all games via BP, without additional custom drivers / programs.

BP is not required at all to use controllers, but it can fix some things like wrong button mapping.
I had such problem with DirectInput gamepad.
76561198001062896 Feb 16, 2018 @ 6:50am 
Originally posted by Son of the Dragon:
Originally posted by Zetikla:


rules are a joke? care to elaborate?

and im pretty sure OP meant controller option for third party games, something that Valve has zero control over, not the Big Picture mode
I don't. I don't want to repeat same things.
You are either ignorant or deluded person, if you believe that everything is okay now.

OP won't agree with you on that =].
OP meant DS controller support for all games via BP, without additional custom drivers / programs.

BP is not required at all to use controllers, but it can fix some things like wrong button mapping.
I had such problem with DirectInput gamepad.


Oh yes, classic strawman of you are ignorant if you arent on my side

Judging by your attitude you arent exactly on a higher moral pedestal than the users you call out.
Ben Dover Feb 16, 2018 @ 8:46am 
Originally posted by Zetikla:


Oh yes, classic strawman of you are ignorant if you arent on my side

Judging by your attitude you arent exactly on a higher moral pedestal than the users you call out.

Hate to break this to you, but this is life.
If you act like a-hole, posting useless and/or provoking comments - Get equal response <3.
Is it hard for you to understand what i meant by that? I hope not.
You are definitely not in position to tell me about attitude.

After all, no one forced you to reply, right?

Don't start with foolish "my side, your side" assumptions, please.
It will only prove that i was right when i mentioned idiocy.
It ain't my problem that you are blind.

Have fun with your forum crusade.
Last edited by Ben Dover; Feb 16, 2018 @ 8:46am
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Feb 16, 2018 @ 8:53am 
Developers have the option to include VAC or another type of anti-cheat in their game if they wish.

"Banned in one game - Limits in another.
Banned in two games - No online for you."

There are laws against restricting paid content if you did not violate the rules in that game. So, not really. But repeat offenders that have violated the terms to cheat and get banned from dozens of games can and have had their accounts terminated or locked.

There is a thing called a "Community Ban" that restricts a user from posting anything. That has always been there.

1. Report

2. Ignore

3. Move on

The last 2 are very important.

:qr:
Last edited by cSg|mc-Hotsauce; Feb 16, 2018 @ 8:54am
Ben Dover Feb 16, 2018 @ 9:09am 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Developers have the option to include VAC or another type of anti-cheat in their game if they wish.

"Banned in one game - Limits in another.
Banned in two games - No online for you."

There are laws against restricting paid content if you did not violate the rules in that game. So, not really. But repeat offenders that have violated the terms to cheat and get banned from dozens of games can and have had their accounts terminated or locked.

There is a thing called a "Community Ban" that restricts a user from posting anything. That has always been there.

1. Report

2. Ignore

3. Move on

The last 2 are very important.

:qr:
Which laws?
U.S? EU? Maybe Valve have their own laws?

I played with cheaters with multiple VAC and in-game bans and they still cheated.

One more in-game ban is nothing for them.
Worse if it's temporary.

Your comment doesn't make much sense.

First you say it's against laws to restrict paid content and then you said that their accounts can be locked...

The last two are the core of problem.
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