Please remove abusive rape games from Steam!

[Trilosodon]

I came across the game Deep Sea Death wherein the focus of the game is on a female diver being RAPED TO DEATH by sharks & other sea creatures.

This is way beyond what is acceptable & passable as a "adult game" this is fetishized animal abuse, bestiality & torture.
Images containing depictured animal abuse & rape are illegal, this game should be removed immediately!

If we allow this kind of content to be accessible on a platform like this, we are really giving gaming a bad image.

[Dangerous Beans]

Posting in a Karen thread

[endrsgm]

rape day is a legal game.
in the game you need to rape women to progress.
the legality of the game doesn't change that the game is sick.

laws are rigid and almost always lag behind events or change.

criminal justice laws are actually an attempt to legislate morality and right or wrong. both phrases you sneered at.

there are legal forces to enforce behavioral standards and societal standards to enforce behavorial standards. it's not illegal to fart on people but that doesn't mean most people like it so people learn not to do it lest they offend.
legal standards are the outermost layer one can go in deviating from standard norms. but long before behavior becomes criminal its usually started running into societal approbation.

remove or mute societal approbation and people will start pushing through those moral boundaries you sneered at and soon what was frowned on is normal and the only barrier left is the legal one.
aka we raced to the bottom.

frankly just because something is legal doesn't make it OK. date rape drugs were legal for awhile, while they were legal did that mean they were OK? what about slavery? when it was legal was it OK or was it... wait for it... a matter of 'morals' and 'right and wrong'?

[KharnTheKhan]

Please remove user Trilosodon from Steam!

[EmotionallyBroken]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Trilosodon:

I came across the game Deep Sea Death wherein the focus of the game is on a female diver being RAPED TO DEATH by sharks & other sea creatures.

This is way beyond what is acceptable & passable as a "adult game" this is fetishized animal abuse, bestiality & torture.
Images containing depictured animal abuse & rape are illegal, this game should be removed immediately!

If we allow this kind of content to be accessible on a platform like this, we are really giving gaming a bad image.

You look at strange things

[Ad-Man-Gamer]

Murder meat grinders and gore galore makes very few bat an eye, but should you so dare involve sex or the suffering of an animal, well now... now we have a problem.

Let's get rid of murder, death, mutilation and the abuse of any human if we are going to take the stance of not depicting atrocities for the sake of image.

And poof! ... There goes the Action, Thriller, and Horror genres, as well as raw story's that show the tribulations humanity endures, and the monsters we can be. You know, The exciting and interesting stuff.

[Start_Running]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von endrsgm:

rape day is a legal game.
in the game you need to rape women to progress.
the legality of the game doesn't change that the game is sick.

Because a game where you progress by raping is somehow worse and more twsited than a game where you say, progress by hosing down everything that moves with bullets? See what happens when you apply logic and reasoning? Are you saying that rape is somehow worse than murder? If you consider them even equal then you should be calling for the ban on every Game that has a shoot function.

And then there's gaems where you progress by engaging in dangerous and imitatble action; wreckless driving, unsafe stunts, etc. Really the only morally right games, would be games like solitaire and tetris.

As said. I prefer to think in terms of legal. There's more consistency there. and it removes a fair chunk of emotional appeal and bias from discourse.

[Start_Running]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von davidb11:

endrsgm also loves to argue and drive people insane.
I believe Endrsgm is the living embodiment of the phrase "Eldrich abomination that destroys your sanity to look at it." :P

SO what you're saying is he's muscling in on my turf....

[rawWwRrr]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von davidb11:

endrsgm also loves to argue and drive people insane.
I believe Endrsgm is the living embodiment of the phrase "Eldrich abomination that destroys your sanity to look at it." :P

Was there a response from them? Instinct must have kicked in a caused me to scroll right past it.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Trilosodon:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von rawWwRrr:

To be fair, it's not as old as some of the necro'd threads we see.

To be more on topic I'll say it's a bad game that doesn't deserve the attention this thread is giving it. OP was better off clicking the Ignore button and allowing it die on its own.

Yes this game doesn't deserve the attention it's getting, I cannot believe people are replying to this & I wish the thread would die but you've missed the point by saying that I should have clicked the ignore button.

I didn't miss the point. You brought it directly to Steam's attention beyond clicking Ignore or even clicking through the report function. You opened a ticket to Support to express your concern with them directly. Since they don't handle those requests they gave you the canned response to post it to the forums. You went on about how horrible the game was and that Steam should take a more active role to remove it as well as any others like it. And here we are.

Next time just click Ignore and/or report and move on with your life.

[endrsgm]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Start_Running:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von endrsgm:

rape day is a legal game.
in the game you need to rape women to progress.
the legality of the game doesn't change that the game is sick.

Because a game where you progress by raping is somehow worse and more twsited than a game where you say, progress by hosing down everything that moves with bullets? See what happens when you apply logic and reasoning? Are you saying that rape is somehow worse than murder? If you consider them even equal then you should be calling for the ban on every Game that has a shoot function.

And then there's gaems where you progress by engaging in dangerous and imitatble action; wreckless driving, unsafe stunts, etc. Really the only morally right games, would be games like solitaire and tetris.

As said. I prefer to think in terms of legal. There's more consistency there. and it removes a fair chunk of emotional appeal and bias from discourse.

you ignored the inconvenient parts of my post :p
you disparage morals and right and wrong and prefer to rely on laws. but laws are just an attempt to impose an outer limits of behavior. at sone point before it gets to crime it is wrong and right and wrong factors in.
i can give countless examples

[Crazy Tiger]

A storefront doesn't have to be morality police. As long as it's legal, they comply. should laws change, they'll take it off the shelves.

The only reason Steam removes certain types of visual novels is because they're illegal in many parts of the world due to laws around art works implying minors in sexualised positions (among which EU nations, btw), for example.

[Trilosodon]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von rawWwRrr:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von davidb11:

endrsgm also loves to argue and drive people insane.
I believe Endrsgm is the living embodiment of the phrase "Eldrich abomination that destroys your sanity to look at it." :P

Was there a response from them? Instinct must have kicked in a caused me to scroll right past it.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Trilosodon:

Yes this game doesn't deserve the attention it's getting, I cannot believe people are replying to this & I wish the thread would die but you've missed the point by saying that I should have clicked the ignore button.

I didn't miss the point. You brought it directly to Steam's attention beyond clicking Ignore or even clicking through the report function. You opened a ticket to Support to express your concern with them directly. Since they don't handle those requests they gave you the canned response to post it to the forums. You went on about how horrible the game was and that Steam should take a more active role to remove it as well as any others like it. And here we are.

Next time just click Ignore and/or report and move on with your life.

You have still missed the point! I don't think we should ignore things & pretend their not happening.
Sure I'm moving on with my life but as the saying goes "Be the change you want to see in the world" by having this conversation we are creating change, you just can't see the result yet, but you are part of it :)

[Trilosodon]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Phoenician:

Please remove user Trilosodon from Steam!

Hey what did I do?

[Trilosodon]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Crazy Tiger:

A storefront doesn't have to be morality police. As long as it's legal, they comply. should laws change, they'll take it off the shelves.

The only reason Steam removes certain types of visual novels is because they're illegal in many parts of the world due to laws around art works implying minors in sexualised positions (among which EU nations, btw), for example.

I think this is a very good point, slavery used to be legal, then when enough people were educated about slavery & became apposed to it, it became illegal but it didn't go away, in fact slavery today is bigger than it has ever been in history :(

Let's abolish slavery!

Anyone apposed? I bet a few people on this thread are apposed to abolishing slavery no matter how heinous it is because it was once "legal" & of course just because you have an opinion about what is "right or wrong" & speak out about something doesn't mean you should ruin the abuse for anyone else who enjoys abuse.

[Start_Running]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Crazy Tiger:

A storefront doesn't have to be morality police. As long as it's legal, they comply. should laws change, they'll take it off the shelves.

The only reason Steam removes certain types of visual novels is because they're illegal in many parts of the world due to laws around art works implying minors in sexualised positions (among which EU nations, btw), for example.

Most common reason tends to be the devs trying to skirt or cheat the ratings restrictions.

[endrsgm]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Start_Running:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von endrsgm:

just because something is legal doesn't make it right or good.

when the only standard is the question 'is it legal?' then its pretty much a race to the bottom.

we can see the consequences of this sort of thinking all around us in life...

Quite the oppositie. What's legal is what the largest consnsus can actually agree is FAIR.
Its when people don't regard legality that you find the race to the bottom because at the individual level people are capable of internally rationalizing and justifying literally ANYTHING. Especially if it allows them to do or get sometthing they WANT.

We see this repeated on an almost hourly level. if you follow the average human.
How many times a day do you manage to justify lying?

Laws are a bit more rigid and don't allow for quite as much twisting.

Hence why in discussion and debate more rational minds prefer asking 'what is legal', those who prefer lazy emotional rhetoric like to talke abouut 'morals' or 'right and wrong'.

actually all he did was reveal the intellectual dishonesty of this post.

this post argued that legal defines if 'its' (something, anything, a product in the store) OK or not. morality or right and wrong not only don't play a role at all they were sneered at.

the post you insulted cleverly hoisted the quotes post above on its petard.
fine, if legal is the limit of whats OK...
- slavery used to be legal. when it was legal was it OK? or did morals and right and wrong say that regardless of the legality slavery is always wrong.
- for that matter 'child brides' are legal in some countries NOW. of course, a young child (sometimes as young as 9 or 10 is considered pedophilia in most of the rest of the world. but in the places its legal... Is it really okay and morals don't playa role and right and wrong dont matter?

try to keep up David.
if something is wrong morally but still legal than its still wrong.
some things are just universally wrong. period

that was the point you failed to comprehend in the post above yours david.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von davidb11:

Never post on here again.

maybe apply your own advice to yourself.