Let us remove tags from the store page, not just from searches

[Mordeth Kai]

I often check the store page to see if there is anything new or interesting I would like. This has become increasingly unappealing. For searches we have the ability to omit tags, please let us apply this to the store page.

I have no interest in RPGmaker or visual novel games and will never buy one, having these saturate the store page makes trying to find things I would like a hassle. I also consider F2P to be cancer and do not support it. Yes I have played F2P games in the past, thats how I've come to this conclusion. At best the monetization is tolerable, at worst is casino psychological warfare trying to get hundreds of dollars out of a game that isn't worth $10. These are my personal views, and they aren't going to change. It's like trying to show a gay guy lesbian pornography because maybe he'll like it, if he's gay he's gay and if you hate F2P you hate F2P. Do I see banners for these that seem interesting? Absolutely and every time I click on one and see "visual novel" or "free to play" I leave feeling like my time was wasted.

I'm not asking for the things I don't like to be removed from steam, I'm asking for the ability to block it from my personal experience to increase my shopping enjoyment. This could be applied in other ways for people who don't want 'adult content' or 'pixel graphics', so such options has universal appeal because it is ultimately optional.

A lot of people criticize steam for being saturated with bad games these days, but there is no general consensus as to what all that entails with the exception of performance problems. This could go a long ways to help that.

[HLCinSC]

Does it not do it here: https://store.steampowered.com/account/preferences/
or is that the search thing you were talking about or is that just for the discovery queue?

I'm always afraid of excluding tags sense they are user applied

[Mordeth Kai]

Those tags are only omitted from searches, not from the store page itself. It's also limited to 3 for some dumb reason. In spite of F2P and VN being on my blacklist they still show up and often make around 1/3 of everything on the store page. Hell, F2P is getting an extra section on the main store page, which pisses me off to be honest.

[Jersey77]

The filter settings on the preferences page do nothing. The whole problem is that this is all based around a user applied tag system. The problem arises that when new games are released onto Steam, they have no tags until enough users apply the same ones. If they don't apply them in time, those products will slip right past your filters.

This ends up happening much more often with products that not a whole lot of people look at (mostly the low budget made in a week stuff or the anime games or the VR stuff), so the tags don't happen and these games go right by all the filters.

I've had the same issue trying to block VR products. Unchecking that "Show Virtual Reality Content" box and adding the VR tag to all the filter lists does nothing if the VR games don't have the tag applied yet. Heck, I've even had a few VR games get through into my Store and Queues with the tag AND filter in place. What I end up seeing on the Store page for the product is "Is this product relevant to you?" right above "Includes tags you've filtered out. VR"

Steam is forcing me to literally click "Not Interested" on a product that it recognizes I'm not interested in. So why is it there? Because the tag system DOES NOT WORK.

The tag system has to change to some other way, what we have right now is completely useless.

[Mordeth Kai]

wrong, its not user applied tags that are the problem. VN's that have been out for years show up on the store page and they made a section dedicated to F2P, so this doesn't hold up. The filter system works just fine if you are in a search, but it isn't applied to the store page, thats why you see VR stuff in the store. Tags aren't the problem.

[Tito Shivan]

Totally removing games from the store because of a tag can have unintended consequences, specially considering tags are user added. For example:
-You tag 'Visual novel' for not display on the store
-New game comes out.
-Users tag it 'visual novel' for the lulz
-You don't see the new game on the store.

[themiltzer]

Being able to block out tags completely would break the store; Smaller tags like "Movie" won't hurt anything; But bigger things like "Thirdperson" will completely break the store beyond any degree


While i do agree that the current filter tags out system is kinda wonky; it's basically the only way

[Master]

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

Totally removing games from the store because of a tag can have unintended consequences, specially considering tags are user added. For example:
-You tag 'Visual novel' for not display on the store
-New game comes out.
-Users tag it 'visual novel' for the lulz
-You don't see the new game on the store.

That's true, but is another problem, is the problem of having people misusing the tags for the lulz.
However, I'd still rather "miss" the latest game coming out on steam than having the store page saturated by games I don't want to play.

VALVE could at least have two tag systems: one community-based, one based on the developers' tags.
The users could then choose which system to use, if both or none, and have their store page configured by their needs and preferences.

[Mordeth Kai]

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

Totally removing games from the store because of a tag can have unintended consequences, specially considering tags are user added. For example:
-You tag 'Visual novel' for not display on the store
-New game comes out.
-Users tag it 'visual novel' for the lulz
-You don't see the new game on the store.

That's a risk I'm willing to take. My choice, my responsibility. If I miss out on something it will be my fault, but if I stop looking at the store page completely it will be valves fault. While user tags occasionally get abused for lulz its usually fixed quickly and is extremely rare now days.

Originally posted by theMiltzer:

Being able to block out tags completely would break the store; Smaller tags like "Movie" won't hurt anything; But bigger things like "Thirdperson" will completely break the store beyond any degree


While i do agree that the current filter tags out system is kinda wonky; it's basically the only way

Again, this can be chalked up to user error. Thats assuming the user didn't consider the ramifications in advance, if someone hates 3rd person perspective, who are you to tell them they're wrong?