Gforcenow tag for games

[Janis Paegle]

You could make tag gforcenow or gfn so we can search games that will work there, I'm not buying any game any more that does not run on gfn after I tried it, I can play AAA games on ultra on my toster laptio now

[Janis Paegle]

Kurumi Tokisaki の投稿を引用：

SMFC の投稿を引用：

I dont understand how they can pull games out, like if i rend a pc from a friend and play my game, i have bought, on that rented pc , how can they say " nooo dude , you can play game on on your pc" cos that us what GFN is, renting a better pc , they do not offer free games, they do not let people play games they don't own

I just dont get it , how they can pull out lol

Anyway GFN seems good enough

it's up to each developer's discretion, I give them fake flak for it... I 100% support pulling out because if you pay for GeForce Now BECAUSE it allows you to play >insert X game here< then due to that game and the availability of it on GeForce Now's platform, money is going to NVIDIA instead of all that extra money being spent on the game, such as microtransactions or DLC... But really it just drives business for NVIDIA by allowing your game on their platform with no benefit to you.

Want to play RDR2(although that's on GFN), then buy an RTX 2070 Super yourself.

how is money going to nvidia if you buy game on steam and buy all dlc on steam, there is no option to buy anything on Nvidia, there is no nvidia store, you play only games you own with dlc you own, nvidia gets only subscription for renting out server space for you to play game you otherwise could not , cos you do not own gaming pc

tell me plz again how nvidia is a bad guy here?

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

They set up the contract with them or in the last case don't and the game is pulled.

Again, even Google has to do this.

[Crazy Tiger]

SMFC の投稿を引用：

Kurumi Tokisaki の投稿を引用：

it's up to each developer's discretion, I give them fake flak for it... I 100% support pulling out because if you pay for GeForce Now BECAUSE it allows you to play >insert X game here< then due to that game and the availability of it on GeForce Now's platform, money is going to NVIDIA instead of all that extra money being spent on the game, such as microtransactions or DLC... But really it just drives business for NVIDIA by allowing your game on their platform with no benefit to you.

Want to play RDR2(although that's on GFN), then buy an RTX 2070 Super yourself.

how is money going to nvidia if you buy game on steam and buy all dlc on steam, there is no option to buy anything on Nvidia, there is no nvidia store, you play only games you own with dlc you own, nvidia gets only subscription for renting out server space for you to play game you otherwise could not , cos you do not own gaming pc

tell me plz again how nvidia is a bad guy here?

Nvidia charges money for their service. They charge money so you can play games that are sold on a different platform (Steam) withou proper consent (license you buy on Steam is for Steam, not Nvidia).

If Nvidia wants those games to be available on GFN, they have to make an agreement with the owners of the games. Valve/Steam is not the owner.

[lailaamell]

Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用：

SMFC の投稿を引用：

how is money going to nvidia if you buy game on steam and buy all dlc on steam, there is no option to buy anything on Nvidia, there is no nvidia store, you play only games you own with dlc you own, nvidia gets only subscription for renting out server space for you to play game you otherwise could not , cos you do not own gaming pc

tell me plz again how nvidia is a bad guy here?

Nvidia charges money for their service. They charge money so you can play games that are sold on a different platform (Steam) withou proper consent (license you buy on Steam is for Steam, not Nvidia).

If Nvidia wants those games to be available on GFN, they have to make an agreement with the owners of the games. Valve/Steam is not the owner.

And make their own store as a proper platform so devs and publisher gets money

[lailaamell]

SMFC の投稿を引用：

I dont understand how they can pull games out, like if i rend a pc from a friend and play my game, i have bought, on that rented pc , how can they say " nooo dude , you can play game on on your pc" cos that us what GFN is, renting a better pc , they do not offer free games, they do not let people play games they don't own

I just dont get it , how they can pull out lol

Anyway GFN seems good enough

But its not your game you dont actually own any games the publisher owns it you just pay for the service of using that said game

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

SMFC の投稿を引用：

Kurumi Tokisaki の投稿を引用：

it's up to each developer's discretion, I give them fake flak for it... I 100% support pulling out because if you pay for GeForce Now BECAUSE it allows you to play >insert X game here< then due to that game and the availability of it on GeForce Now's platform, money is going to NVIDIA instead of all that extra money being spent on the game, such as microtransactions or DLC... But really it just drives business for NVIDIA by allowing your game on their platform with no benefit to you.

Want to play RDR2(although that's on GFN), then buy an RTX 2070 Super yourself.

how is money going to nvidia if you buy game on steam and buy all dlc on steam, there is no option to buy anything on Nvidia, there is no nvidia store, you play only games you own with dlc you own, nvidia gets only subscription for renting out server space for you to play game you otherwise could not , cos you do not own gaming pc

tell me plz again how nvidia is a bad guy here?

Nvidia providing two things, free service, and pay service to get better service. There a lot of drama in this, and I can throw in quite a bit of cents in here, but overall best to assume some devs just wants money for cloud gaming, as they don't want to devalue themsleves to compaines that does cloud gaming, so they want an income made.

[Start_Running]

SMFC の投稿を引用：

I dont understand how they can pull games out, like if i rend a pc from a friend and play my game, i have bought, on that rented pc , how can they say " nooo dude , you can play game on on your pc" cos that us what GFN is, renting a better pc , they do not offer free games, they do not let people play games they don't own

I just dont get it , how they can pull out lol

Anyway GFN seems good enough

IT is one of the rights a content creator has. To determine who can distribute their product.
The reason devs are pulluing out as said, nVidia didn't ask. The STreaming distribution rights for rthe games were not negotiated ergio nVidia has no right to have them in its service. Whether or not you buty the game on PC nVidia is distributing it via streaming.

At tyhe end of the day developers have bills to pay, salaries to pay, and would also like to be able to buy nice things for themselves.

[Gambit-3k]

cSg|mc-Hotsauce の投稿を引用：

Kurumi Tokisaki の投稿を引用：

Wow, that developer sounds like such a jerk if you read through those twitter posts, he just wants to make money even though people spend money on the game already and just play it on a virtual machine that is capable of running the game people already paid for XD.

I read them. It seemed a bit much but it is still up to Nvidia to ask and set up a contract first. Same goes for Stadia. Croteam just signed a deal for their Serious Sam games.

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Comparing it to Stadia makes zero sense because Stadia is selling the games. It is in fact though why these publishers want to pull their games, they want to get paid again to sell you the same content. I'm surprised when I see people defending those publishers who are trying to insure that gaming goes the way of netflix.

Nvidia is playing nice because they don't want to upset publishers they work with to sell video cards, but Nvidia is not distributing any games, they are only distributing virtual PC access. You paid for a license to use on computers that can run Steam, nothing in the license agreement says it has to be your PC, so why can't you rent time on a virtual PC. As computing goes full circle and local PC's become simple remote access points to the "cloud", we will lose what we have if it can be argued the licenses we purchased can't be Streamed from the virtual PC's we pay for. I think it's foolish to openly support the publishers on this, as their desire is only to sell access to the same game again, on some new platform in the future. If Steam is the platform you own (license) the game on, you should be able to use that platform on any PC you have access to, including any PC you pay to access. I should be able to setup a virtual PC on a server and run any software I have a license for, which is essentially what is being prevented.

Geforce Now is (an example of) a solution to gaming going the way of netflix, a future where local access to games slowly becomes a thing of the past.

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We probably can't stop this future where all games are streamed; be it 10, 20, or 30 years. But we shouldn't be defending publishers who prevent us, from taking what we have now with us into that future.

[Pocahawtness]

Kurumi Tokisaki の投稿を引用：

cSg|mc-Hotsauce の投稿を引用：

The Long Dark without game dev permission...

https://twitter.com/RaphLife/status/1234181315840229376

Wow, that developer sounds like such a jerk if you read through those twitter posts, he just wants to make money even though people spend money on the game already and just play it on a virtual machine that is capable of running the game people already paid for XD.

I actually find it pretty shocking the way that so many people in the Western world support Capitalism when they vote and Communism when they make comments about games developers!! Developers are a business not a charity. They aren't here to give endless services all for free. I can fully understand why the developer was annoyed that NVIDIA didn't even ask.

[Janis Paegle]

｢C❤️A｣ Pocahawtness の投稿を引用：

Kurumi Tokisaki の投稿を引用：

Wow, that developer sounds like such a jerk if you read through those twitter posts, he just wants to make money even though people spend money on the game already and just play it on a virtual machine that is capable of running the game people already paid for XD.

I actually find it pretty shocking the way that so many people in the Western world support Capitalism when they vote and Communism when they make comments about games developers!! Developers are a business not a charity. They aren't here to give endless services all for free. I can fully understand why the developer was annoyed that NVIDIA didn't even ask.

that's stupid, i would not even be able to play most of these games if not Nvidia and had 0 reason to buy them, so how is pulling put from gforcenow benefit any developer? Last week I purchased monster hunter world, it was on sale ( or week before that) and I refunded it, just cos nvidia did not supported that game cos Capcom pulled games out from gforcenow, so they are losing so much money by making customers not able to play their games, and thats stupid to say the least, im surprised that Ncidia is not charging money from these companies to ALLOW THEM to be on gforcenow, cos im not buying any game any more that is not on that platform (cos why would i if i can use all that money i would spent on gaming pc to just buy games and pay 5$ monthly to nvidia to stream them)

[lailaamell]

SMFC の投稿を引用：

｢C❤️A｣ Pocahawtness の投稿を引用：

I actually find it pretty shocking the way that so many people in the Western world support Capitalism when they vote and Communism when they make comments about games developers!! Developers are a business not a charity. They aren't here to give endless services all for free. I can fully understand why the developer was annoyed that NVIDIA didn't even ask.

that's stupid, i would not even be able to play most of these games if not Nvidia and had 0 reason to buy them, so how is pulling put from gforcenow benefit any developer? Last week I purchased monster hunter world, it was on sale ( or week before that) and I refunded it, just cos nvidia did not supported that game cos Capcom pulled games out from gforcenow, so they are losing so much money by making customers not able to play their games, and thats stupid to say the least, im surprised that Ncidia is not charging money from these companies to ALLOW THEM to be on gforcenow, cos im not buying any game any more that is not on that platform (cos why would i if i can use all that money i would spent on gaming pc to just buy games and pay 5$ monthly to nvidia to stream them)

they earn it back in console sales also the devs and publisher do have right to decide where you play your license is not yours its only yours for use for as long dev or publishers lets you have it so one solution is for nividia to make it so you also pay for accesing your license per minute + sub fee 1 dollar or euro per minute

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

SMFC の投稿を引用：

｢C❤️A｣ Pocahawtness の投稿を引用：

I actually find it pretty shocking the way that so many people in the Western world support Capitalism when they vote and Communism when they make comments about games developers!! Developers are a business not a charity. They aren't here to give endless services all for free. I can fully understand why the developer was annoyed that NVIDIA didn't even ask.

that's stupid, i would not even be able to play most of these games if not Nvidia and had 0 reason to buy them, so how is pulling put from gforcenow benefit any developer? Last week I purchased monster hunter world, it was on sale ( or week before that) and I refunded it, just cos nvidia did not supported that game cos Capcom pulled games out from gforcenow, so they are losing so much money by making customers not able to play their games, and thats stupid to say the least, im surprised that Ncidia is not charging money from these companies to ALLOW THEM to be on gforcenow, cos im not buying any game any more that is not on that platform (cos why would i if i can use all that money i would spent on gaming pc to just buy games and pay 5$ monthly to nvidia to stream them)

It is the Dev right to deny companines / others from using their products for a service, which in this case, Nvidia using their product in away they do not approve of, and want it off, some devs may even think it might devalue their game chance of making good deal with subscription plan services such as with PS Now, Microsoft Gold pass, and etc, if their games can be access by other means, as in short they want a fixed constant income, instead of a having to take a chance if people will buy, or not, as well how long it make take for one may buy a copy, as this isn't a fixed rate, as either someone buy full price, or waited for discounted sale such as yourself waited to get instead of buying it full price, may seem silly to you as a consumer, but as a business pont it does make some sense to find ways to up the income in someways. Another point to make is making profit off their games, providing a paid service, which provides the end user a better experience, over the free plan. Which some may believe free profit off someone games, just by providing the service, now if it was just free as a whole, no other plans, then this would be an invalid idea of making profit off others games without their premission. "Commercial use"
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/memberships/

This to be only accpetable if they setup a service if they choose to charge/pay the devs, or not, by first contacting each of the Devs for the said games, to get their permission or form a contract to give permission to be used by the Nvidia cloud gaming service. As it stands Devs do have the rights to deny Nvidia.

Now the whole instead of me buying X device, and just pay a cloud gaming service for low monthly cost, there's always going to be pros, and cons especially for the PC versions, such as lack of mod support, patches by the community, and more, but if that does not matter to one, then that is not an issse to that one, but would be for others, now from business stand, the issue is they see cloud gaming as a possible future, and some may even rather have their games on a plan, as pointed early in this post to make a fixed income, instead of waiting for consumer to buy the products which varies as to when, and how much they're willing to spend, as well the control over certain things.

[Janis Paegle]

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