Switch Australian store back to USD

[Cosmonautikal]

Please don't punish the entire Australian market just because a minority of users didn't fully understand what they were in for when suggesting AUD prices. Between after-conversion price hikes and numerous missing listings the store is essentially worthless now. It would be in the best interests of everyone if we just switched back to USD, but included a currency converter next to each price listing for reference. Please forgive us Lord Gaben.

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引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

That's why I said do nothing, and nothing will happen, do something, and you get answers, and may get something done about it. Communication is key.

The issue sometimes is the consumers keep buying into it, and not saying anything, sometimes if sales not meeting their quota they may offer better deals/pricing. I seen few devs/pubs do their prices correctly, some charging by mare few cents to a dollar more than the conversion rate plus the tax *VAT*, as well some are less than what the conversion rate plus the tax *VAT* which being cheaper by again few cents to a dollar. Some Devs/Pubs readjust their prices for other countries after finding out why they're not selling well at all, because of the currency difference. Some may not care about prices are set, and leave it as is, doesn't mean others won't look into it, and adjust their prices to fit the better needs for your currency. Again communication is key.

+1 to Dr.Shadowds. Open dialogue with the devs/publishers.

I did complain to Amplitude Studios via steamforums, amplitudeforums, and amplitude discord for jacking up the price for some DLC's months ago. Now all new DLC content and games are much fairer for AU customers.

Right now I'm doing the same thing with Supergiant
https://steamcommunity.com/app/462770/discussions/0/1744478429675262946/

I'm all for rants here but atleast try to open some dialogue with the people who actually have control over the issue.

[Nightrayden]

steam is only doing this for the GST but they dont have the right prices still. it is cheaper to go back to buying from stores. for example . just cause 4 standard is $90 on steam but jbhifi sells it for $79 and you can then still and it to the steam library

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

引用自 Nightrayden：

steam is only doing this for the GST but they dont have the right prices still. it is cheaper to go back to buying from stores. for example . just cause 4 standard is $90 on steam but jbhifi sells it for $79 and you can then still and it to the steam library

GST was already added there earlier this year.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

引用自 Nightrayden：

steam is only doing this for the GST but they dont have the right prices still. it is cheaper to go back to buying from stores. for example . just cause 4 standard is $90 on steam but jbhifi sells it for $79 and you can then still and it to the steam library

Nope. Steam isn't the one that set the prices on the games, the games devs/pubs were the ones that set the prices. Steam GAVE all the Devs/Pubs an email Notice months ago to add their AUD prices to their products, if they haven't done so when the AUD gets added live, the game buy button will be disable/removed for all AU users, until they add the AUD prices to their products. This is the email they're given. https://imgur.com/eMVgAKC

Also Steam doesn't get your GST, your Government gets the GST... I don't know why you think Steam getting your GST, or doing it for GST.

The very 1st post, should be a hint to you that Steam wasn't the one setting the prices.
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/1744478429672556108/?tscn=1542865419#c1744478429672593277

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

Too late, the change has fully settled.

Take it up with the devs/pubs if you don't like the prices, as they're the ones that set the prices, for the devs,/pubs that didn't set their AUD prices they won't be able to sell their games in AU until they have set the AUD price.

引用自 cSg|mc-Hotsauce：

引用自 Nightrayden：

steam is only doing this for the GST but they dont have the right prices still. it is cheaper to go back to buying from stores. for example . just cause 4 standard is $90 on steam but jbhifi sells it for $79 and you can then still and it to the steam library

GST was already added there earlier this year.

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^This.

[Samadhi]

It will just make the AU stores more competitive, its clear that its a cash grab.

Given the ACCC gave Valve a $3 million fine last time, it won't be long before Valve are back in court getting pummelled by our judiciary.

[Gwarsbane]

引用自 Samadhi：

It will just make the AU stores more competitive, its clear that its a cash grab.

Given the ACCC gave Valve a $3 million fine last time, it won't be long before Valve are back in court getting pummelled by our judiciary.

Pummeled for what? Doing exactly what the government wants them to do? The AU people wanted the AU currency, Valve has given them the currency. AU government told Valve they must also put the AU taxes on the games that all goes to the government. Valve has done that.

Now lets see if this might actually get through to some people....

VALVE DOES NO SET THE PRICES ON THE GAMES!!!! THE DEVELOPERS/PUBLISHERS OF THE GAMES ARE THE ONES WHO SET THE PRICES ON THE GAMES.

If they prices are higher, BLAME THE DEVELOPERS/PUBLISHERS. Go post in their discussion areas and ask them to change things.

If you can no longer buy a game that you used to be able to BLAME THE DEVELOPERS/PUBLISHERS. Go post in their discussion areas and ask them to change things.


Also the nearly 3 million dollar fine was because Valve didn't have refunds. They fought in court, lost and are finally past all that which is why everyone now actually has refunds and why AU residents now have AU pricing, which everyone told them their prices would be higher and that some games would become unavailable and why they would be higher and unavailable.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

引用自 Samadhi：

It will just make the AU stores more competitive, its clear that its a cash grab.

Given the ACCC gave Valve a $3 million fine last time, it won't be long before Valve are back in court getting pummelled by our judiciary.

Cool story...

Steam adds your currency, but claims it's a cash grab... You must not realize your AUD is not equal to USD, look it up there's about 40 cents difference per dollar...

Again Steam didn't set the prices, the game Devs/Pubs did, it's not rocket science, Steam can't force them to set the prices they want to sell at if you somehow didn't know this.

BTW that law suit was about the refund policy, not because of the prices, or anything else, just the refund policy...

[Samadhi]

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

引用自 Samadhi：

It will just make the AU stores more competitive, its clear that its a cash grab.

Given the ACCC gave Valve a $3 million fine last time, it won't be long before Valve are back in court getting pummelled by our judiciary.

Cool story...

Steam adds your currency, but claims it's a cash grab... You must not realize your AUD is not equal to USD, look it up there's about 40 cents difference per dollar...

Its 30%, go away, do your research and then come back and post.
If i had a $ for every time someone pretended to know about this topic, i'd be richer than i am now.

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

BTW that law suit was about the refund policy, not because of the prices, or anything else, just the refund policy...

Thats the headline, but there is more to it than refunds.
If you read the judgement you will see Valve claimed they didn't operate in AU so no need to obey AU law.
Our Judge disagreed and fined them $3 million dollars.

Thats a pummelling alright, Valve bent over and took it with a smile :)

[Start_Running]

And do you know what they were fined $3m for?

[Samadhi]

引用自 Gwarsbane：

引用自 Samadhi：

It will just make the AU stores more competitive, its clear that its a cash grab.

Given the ACCC gave Valve a $3 million fine last time, it won't be long before Valve are back in court getting pummelled by our judiciary.

Pummeled for what? Doing exactly what the government wants them to do? The AU people wanted the AU currency, Valve has given them the currency. AU government told Valve they must also put the AU taxes on the games that all goes to the government. Valve has done that.

Calm down, go away and educate yourself about Valves Vs ACCC and then come back and post with relevance.

[Samadhi]

引用自 Start_Running：

And do you know what they were fined $3m for?

https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/federal-court-finds-valve-made-misleading-representations-about-consumer-guarantees

The judgement is also available.

It was misleading and deceptive conduct.
Most people from OS call it "its about refunds" because they just read the headline, they don't actually know our law.

[Start_Running]

Good.
Also $3 mil sounds like a lot on our level but thats actually a that's practically petty cash for Valve.

[Samadhi]

引用自 Start_Running：

Good.
Also $3 mil sounds like a lot on our level but thats actually a that's practically petty cash for Valve.

For sure, its pocket change for Valve.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

引用自 Samadhi：

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

Cool story...

Steam adds your currency, but claims it's a cash grab... You must not realize your AUD is not equal to USD, look it up there's about 40 cents difference per dollar...

Its 30%, go away, do your research and then come back and post.
If i had a $ for every time someone pretended to know about this topic, i'd be richer than i am now.

Did you confuse yourself? Check the exchange rates on xe.com or any other exchange USD to AUD, you're AUD dollar is not equivalent to USD dollar, also that 30% you're talking about is what Steam get cut on all sales it's not tax, and doesn't apply to you, only apply to the devs/pubs as they have to pay 30% cut for all sales to Steam, been that way since the start when they added other games to their platform back years, ago, so don't get those two mix up. Sony doing same thing, same with Microsoft, Nintendo, and etc...

引用自 Samadhi：

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

BTW that law suit was about the refund policy, not because of the prices, or anything else, just the refund policy...

Thats the headline, but there is more to it than refunds.
If you read the judgement you will see Valve claimed they didn't operate in AU so no need to obey AU law.
Our Judge disagreed and fined them $3 million dollars.

Thats a pummelling alright, Valve bent over and took it with a smile :)

Steam fail to follow the laws in AU which is why they were sued, they try to fight it, ofter the refunds, as well add the refund system, but has to pay the fine, what you're complaing in your 1st post is claiming Steam setting the prices, when Steam didn't as all prices are set by the Devs and Pubs just as a reminder again to you.

引用自 Samadhi：

引用自 Start_Running：

Good.
Also $3 mil sounds like a lot on our level but thats actually a that's practically petty cash for Valve.

For sure, its pocket change for Valve.

If they were upset they would've just close up shop with AU, and cut AU off basically.

[Samadhi]

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

Did you confuse yourself? Check the exchange rates on xe.com or any other exchange USD to AUD, you're AUD dollar is not equivalent to USD dollar, also that 30% you're talking about is what Steam get cut on all sales it's not tax, and doesn't apply to you, only apply to the devs/pubs as they have to pay 30% cut for all sales to Steam, been that way since the start when they added other games to their platform back years, ago, so don't get those two mix up. Sony doing same thing, same with Microsoft, Nintendo, and etc...

The exchange rate is 1AUD = ~70cUS. That is a 30pc differential.
Try to actually understand what is being said before you waste everyones time with this junk reply.

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

Steam fail to follow the laws in AU which is why they were sued, they try to fight it, ofter the refunds, as well add the refund system, but has to pay the fine, what you're complaing in your 1st post is claiming Steam setting the prices, when Steam didn't as all prices are set by the Devs and Pubs just as a reminder again to you.

So you totally agree with what i just said in relation to the Valve VS ACCC court action.
Why try to argue a point you agree on?

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

....when Steam didn't as all prices are set by the Devs and Pubs just as a reminder again to you.[/u]

As a reminder to you, when our prices were measured against the USD, our prices were lower in real terms.
I don't believe anybody is claiming Valve set the prices, its about being price gouged.

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

:conwayshrug: If they were upset they would've just close up shop with AU, and cut AU off basically.

I guess thats why Gaben is mega rich and you work for someone else.