76561198021603597 2018 年 7 月 19 日 下午 2:40
Why not a native Steam Client for FreeBSD?
I have been using FreeBSD only now for many years on my computer and I would like to point out the marvelous gaming performance of that OS with the native nvidia driver. Sometimes I play Steam games with wine (TF2 and Gladiators in the past) but it is a real experimental and insecure thing to play with wine, you never know if a game works or not. Although FreeBSD has Linux emulation, which makes games like Q4 or Doom3 run like hell, the Linux Steam Client does not install or run on FreeBSD, apparently due to being designed for the latest Ubuntu Linux.

My question is if it would be possible to port the Steam Client directly to FreeBSD? FreeBSD is a very robust and fast performing platform with better backward compatibility for the future than other operating systems. Could you please take it into consideration?
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76561198021603597 2018 年 7 月 20 日 上午 8:50 
That is perfectly logical. But to say "virtually nobody on Steam uses ... Linux..." is hard to believe, because then there would not be an offer of that many Linux Games or SteamOS itself.

I don't know if the rumor is true, but apparently some famous game developer stated that MS will try to break Steam through patches in the future in order to make people turn to MS only for gaming. So keeping a separate strategy with Linux might just be a good thing. Let's see how the thing with Linux/OpenGL/Vulkan developes in the future...
Omega 2018 年 7 月 20 日 上午 8:54 
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

The June Steam survey put the Linux usage at 0.52%.

The all time high for Linux is close to 1% back in 2016.
76561198021603597 2018 年 7 月 20 日 上午 9:03 
Well, that looks pretty bad... Did not know it was that few people using Linux...
Omega 2018 年 7 月 20 日 上午 9:15 
引用自 wernerleh
Well, that looks pretty bad... Did not know it was that few people using Linux...
This is only on Steam, a gaming platform. Actually it's closer to 99% because of smartphones :P

Many of these people may be running Linux on their desktop in dual boot but use Windows for gaming.

I expect the Linux market share to rise in the coming years because many AAA games are being ported to Linux currently. Also many people are having tons of frustrations with Windows, it breaks after every major update and tons of unwanted "features" and apps are being pushed on them.
最后由 Omega 编辑于; 2018 年 7 月 20 日 上午 9:17
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 2018 年 7 月 20 日 上午 9:21 
Just to make it more clear how popular Windows has been since 2008 with their hardware survey, and why it's mostly being focus on compare to any other OS.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090701000000*/https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
76561198021603597 2018 年 7 月 20 日 下午 2:29 
引用自 Omega

I expect the Linux market share to rise in the coming years because many AAA games are being ported to Linux currently. Also many people are having tons of frustrations with Windows, it breaks after every major update and tons of unwanted "features" and apps are being pushed on them.

Very good point! And which are those AAA games that are being ported to Linux? I thought the tendency was the other way round, every time less Linux ports. I am saying this because e.g. iD Soft used to publish Linux installers for most of their old games, but since it was sold this practice was dropped. Rage (one of the best games to me) was the first game without a Linux installer. Thank God it ran well with wine... What I really miss is an overview or announcements in general about commercial games being ported to Linux or even published with a Linux installer right from the start.
Omega 2018 年 7 月 20 日 下午 2:44 
引用自 wernerleh
引用自 Omega

I expect the Linux market share to rise in the coming years because many AAA games are being ported to Linux currently. Also many people are having tons of frustrations with Windows, it breaks after every major update and tons of unwanted "features" and apps are being pushed on them.

Very good point! And which are those AAA games that are being ported to Linux? I thought the tendency was the other way round, every time less Linux ports. I am saying this because e.g. iD Soft used to publish Linux installers for most of their old games, but since it was sold this practice was dropped. Rage (one of the best games to me) was the first game without a Linux installer. Thank God it ran well with wine... What I really miss is an overview or announcements in general about commercial games being ported to Linux or even published with a Linux installer right from the start.
All Valve games (Even Ricochet), The modern Tomb Raider games, Most Total War games, Alien Isolation, Metro 2033 Redux, Civilization V, VI and BE, Hitman, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, Saints Row 2, 3 and 4, Borderlands 2 and TPS etc..

It's far from all AAA games but it's a start. If the latest Call of Duty or Battlefield would be added to this list that would be a huge buff for gaming on Linux.

Keep an eye on Feral Interactive (They have a Youtube Channel where they post trailers), they are one of the few Linux porting companies and they are very close with the community. They developed some nice tools such as GameMode as well.
最后由 Omega 编辑于; 2018 年 7 月 20 日 下午 2:49
x_wing 2018 年 7 月 20 日 下午 4:01 
引用自 wernerleh
Well, that looks pretty bad... Did not know it was that few people using Linux...

Is not that bad. What I tried to say before is that many of the Windows accounts usually are account that doesn't generate profit due that are bot accounts, trading card mining accounts or freemium accounts. I cannot give numbers, but I think that average investement of Linux accounts is bigger than the Windows ones, which give us (Linux user) some hope and some explanation of why we still gets game in our platform.

From my point of view, it's not the number of accounts but market size (i.e. the money) what matters.
Omega 2018 年 7 月 20 日 下午 4:08 
引用自 x_wing
引用自 wernerleh
Well, that looks pretty bad... Did not know it was that few people using Linux...

Is not that bad. What I tried to say before is that many of the Windows accounts usually are account that doesn't generate profit due that are bot accounts, trading card mining accounts or freemium accounts. I cannot give numbers, but I think that average investement of Linux accounts is bigger than the Windows ones, which give us (Linux user) some hope and some explanation of why we still gets game in our platform.

From my point of view, it's not the number of accounts but market size (i.e. the money) what matters.
I doubt bots click the "Yes I want to participate in the survey" button.

But yeah you are correct. I would guess that the vast majority of Linux users are adults who are able to stick tons of money in Steam. Let's say 9/10 Linux gamers are regular customers while on Windows it might be closer to 3/10.
norman 2018 年 11 月 22 日 上午 12:49 
引用自 Omega
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

The June Steam survey put the Linux usage at 0.52%.

The all time high for Linux is close to 1% back in 2016.

I'm still a windows user, but would love to switch to linux full time.
I have been using Linux on all my servers, so I am experienced but as a Desktop it should do everything.
Now with the new Steam Proton layer it looks interesting to switch.
Been trying out DeepinOS and FreeBSD and allthough I love FreeBSD (running Gnome) and actually prefer it over Linux. Deepin OS is pretty sleek and that would be my choice.
But I'm still going to wait till Proton is matured.
Omega 2018 年 11 月 22 日 上午 1:31 
引用自 norman
引用自 Omega
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

The June Steam survey put the Linux usage at 0.52%.

The all time high for Linux is close to 1% back in 2016.

I'm still a windows user, but would love to switch to linux full time.
I have been using Linux on all my servers, so I am experienced but as a Desktop it should do everything.
Now with the new Steam Proton layer it looks interesting to switch.
Been trying out DeepinOS and FreeBSD and allthough I love FreeBSD (running Gnome) and actually prefer it over Linux. Deepin OS is pretty sleek and that would be my choice.
But I'm still going to wait till Proton is matured.
Deepin is really nice. But I don't trust the devs so I instead install the desktop envoirment on Arch.

Deepin 15.8 is looking really nice also. I might switch back to Deepin from GNOME for a while to check it out.


I partially switched to Linux 6 months ago and fully switched 4 months ago. I have been doing all my gaming on Linux since then. The release of Proton more then doubled the size of my game library.
absolute_despair 2019 年 5 月 29 日 上午 6:59 
>Proton
indeed
with most of its source available, it _should_ be possible to build proton for any platform _already_ supported by wine itself
t. Sun user
Statement 2020 年 5 月 17 日 上午 1:36 
Thanks the freebsd community that I can run several games with steam under linuxulator now.
https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/steamuxulation-redux.72140/
https://github.com/shkhln/linuxulator-steam-utils
最后由 Statement 编辑于; 2020 年 5 月 17 日 上午 1:36
Omega 2020 年 5 月 17 日 上午 1:39 
引用自 時地文
Thanks the community that I can run several games with steam under linuxulator now.
https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/steamuxulation-redux.72140/
https://github.com/shkhln/linuxulator-steam-utils
I should really try FreeBSD one of these days, If I can get my laptop's WiFi working on it.
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