Steam should allow you to FULLY delete a game from your library

[B!NGO]

Even though users have the ability to "permanently" delete a game from their library, all it does take it out of your library. You can recover it whenever you want, it still shows in your profile and the achievements and data are saved. This is like giving away the disc of a physical game but keeping the box and save files. Users should be able to COMPLETELY delete a game. If you don't want it anymore you can freshen up your account by removing it entirely. No refunds are involved, so there's no loss for Valve, the money has been paid previously already. I'm pretty sure Steam has said that the reason it isn't actually removed is because people could complain about not having done it themselves and having been hacked instead. The solution is simple, though: Give the user a removal limit of 5 games a year and when a request has been done, remove the game from the library and then give the user a 90-day recovery period before the game is forever removed.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

The license is deactivated using that feature. The key is still only a one time use key and will never be allowed to remove it from an account, ever.

[Winged One]

Originally posted by Bingo:

If you don't want it anymore you can freshen up your account by removing it entirely, give away the game, box and all, so to say.

not going to happen, licenses are a one time use and can not be exchanged for a reason

[B!NGO]

That doesn't change that your data is saved, despite it not having to be. I don't care that the key is still tied or that it shows up in my buy history, I just want the option to delete all data of a game from my account permanently.

[B!NGO]

Originally posted by theseraph1:

Originally posted by Bingo:

If you don't want it anymore you can freshen up your account by removing it entirely, give away the game, box and all, so to say.

not going to happen, licenses are a one time use and can not be exchanged for a reason

Well I should've worded that differently, it was a reference to my previous statement, I of course dont expect to get money back

[JPMcMillen]

Originally posted by Bingo:

That doesn't change that your data is saved, despite it not having to be. I don't care that the key is still tied or that it shows up in my buy history, I just want the option to delete all data of a game from my account permanently.

It's never going to happen. Because no matter how many times someone confirms that 'yes' they do want to delete a game from their account, users will end up crying to support about wanting to get the game back for some reason. So the best they are going to do is what we have now, which is to bury, but not delete, the game in question.

[Tito Shivan]

'Permanently' is a big word people make lots of mistakes constantly.
The 'permanently' of today might not look so 'permanent' tomorrow.
The business of removing tattoos is there because of that

That's why the remove game feature works the way it does.

[Gwarsbane]

And of course the old, if a hijacker gets in and permanently deletes all your stuff, you'll be crying to steam to restore it, but they won't be able to.

[Satoru]

Note OP you seem to be talkinga bout 2 different things

1) deleting games from your library. Note that tbh the whole 'deleting game' is mostly silly since you can hide games in your library already making the necessity to delete them moot. But whatever people seem to want it

2) Deleting a game will not remove achievements or playtime. This is for several reasons. Refunds need to track playtime since it is the total playtime of 2 hours that counts, its not a 'each time you buy it you get 2 hours'. Thus you cannot remove the back end data for this because its important from an accounting perspective.

3) Deleting achievements is sort of pointless. Note that when you are part of a free weekend the game is effectively 'deleted' from your library too. This means that systemically free weekends means users will lose all their potential progress in-game. Also its not like if you sell your game on a console that xbox or ps deletes your achievements either. there's no precedent for the necessity to delete achievements.

4) 'freshening up your account' is not a reason to implement features that really add little value.What does this even mean.

[Normal-Insanity]

also the question would be why would you want to remove your playtime and achievements?

[Satoru]

Originally posted by Normal-Insanity:

also the question would be why would you want to remove your playtime and achievements?

This tends to fall under either the "I have fake OCD" crowd or the "Lazy Achievment Hunters" group.

Look at the OP's comment of "freshening up your account". What does this even mean? I didn't realize games 'stank up' your library like spoiled milk. If your account needs 'freshening up' its more likely there's a dead mouse stuck in your GPU fan.

[Normal-Insanity]

Originally posted by Satoru:

Originally posted by Normal-Insanity:

also the question would be why would you want to remove your playtime and achievements?

This tends to fall under either the "I have fake OCD" crowd or the "Lazy Achievment Hunters" group.

Look at the OP's comment of "freshening up your account". What does this even mean? I didn't realize games 'stank up' your library like spoiled milk. If your account needs 'freshening up' its more likely there's a dead mouse stuck in your GPU fan.

or maybe "i play a game i dont want people to know i play"

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

relevant MtG card: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=74231

for every time someone asks to be able to remove a game even more ultra-permanently from their library because the existing game removal feature isn't enough for them

[B!NGO]

Originally posted by Satoru:

Note OP you seem to be talkinga bout 2 different things

1) deleting games from your library. Note that tbh the whole 'deleting game' is mostly silly since you can hide games in your library already making the necessity to delete them moot. But whatever people seem to want it

2) Deleting a game will not remove achievements or playtime. This is for several reasons. Refunds need to track playtime since it is the total playtime of 2 hours that counts, its not a 'each time you buy it you get 2 hours'. Thus you cannot remove the back end data for this because its important from an accounting perspective.

3) Deleting achievements is sort of pointless. Note that when you are part of a free weekend the game is effectively 'deleted' from your library too. This means that systemically free weekends means users will lose all their potential progress in-game. Also its not like if you sell your game on a console that xbox or ps deletes your achievements either. there's no precedent for the necessity to delete achievements.

4) 'freshening up your account' is not a reason to implement features that really add little value.What does this even mean.

Basically I think it'd be a nice thing if one were able to aquire and remove digital Steam games more akin to physical games, that way you have more flexibilty over what games you actually own, without the reselling of course. The current feature works, obviously, but it still feels more as hiding than removing. I do now understand why it's the way it is.

[FMP]

Profile data such as achievements and play time are not the game. That is Valves data for marketing and directed sales.