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I'm tempted to bring up ideas or solutions to some of the problems/issues you bring up regarding "What's New", But I get the feeling I might be wasting our time. It seems even if "What's New" only showed actual updates w/ changelogs, you would still want to be able to remove it (which is fine), because what's really bothering you isn't that certain things show up, it's that it exists and you can't remove it. If that's the case, then why waste time focusing on these other things (like news that's related too, but not specifically about), because what if Valve actually listened to you on these points and fixed them, and then you are left still upset. What good does that do any of us? If I'm wrong and that's not the case, I do have some ideas to improve the feature if Valve isn't willing to make it optional.
Outside of that, it doesn't really matter how each of us feel about the feature as a whole if we both agree you should have control over what you see. I just think the more honest people (everyone) are about things, the better chance they have of being listened too.
Hi there,
Thank you for the feedback on the new Steam Library. I'll make sure that your concerns regarding the performance and resource usage of this update is passed on to the development team.
You can also share any opinions, suggestions, or ideas in the official Steam Beta Discussions. Our development team is actively following these discussions.
We have provided all the available troubleshooting information in our previous messages. Since there's not much more that I can say or do to be of help with this particular issue, I am going to close this help request.
If you have questions on an unrelated issue, please create a new help request and we will be happy to help you.
Steam Support
Mitch
Their suggestions for a fix was to upload a dump file to them. I had to revert to a old steam installation so there are no dump files. I went from Win 7 to Win 10 to see if that helped..... ofc it didnt. Still using 10% of my 16BG RAM. Still spiking to 80+% CPU usage.
They also suggested I try low bandwidth and disable hardware acceleration..... MY PC is "beefy" enough to run anything, but I have to gimp Steam to run it. NO THAT IS NOT MY PROBLEM. That is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ update.
The last "fix" suggested was to follow the usual steam client fixes from their support page. OF course I tried that. Its like calling Tech support when my internet goes out. Dealing with idiots. . . Want me to unplug my router again?
Basically I've been told to ♥♥♥♥ off and deal with it. Awesome support.
Of course, with Steam we don't have that option, if it's slow, and you need to use it to access a feature (eg a game needs an update before you can play) then you're just stuck waiting for a slow system.
Did you have a controller plugged in?
If I have a controller plugged in, the entirety of steam will hang for 2 seconds or so every 30-60 seconds. If I unplug the controller, it stops.
LOL ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awesome.
Yes and no. I remove all extra devices when testing like xbox wireless dongle, my headset, etc. I reinstalled another OS to test if that would work and nope. I am back on old steam and plan on staying here as long as possible.
I am thinking using no browser on steam and installing playnite is going to be my best option. Just completely remove all of steams ability run 10K webhelpere.exe processes. Just that idk what kind of usage playnite has. Old steam 249mb RAM, new steam = 1.6GB RAM.
I don't care chromium is used. i just want it not to be ugly, not use my RAM and CPU like crazy, and have all the same info in an easy to find place. No scrolling, no extra clicks. No asking for reviews, no spoilers through "community" content. Is that really asking too much?
Forget scrolling on the sidebar lol. I would have a birthday before I get to the bottom.
I've seen ads for sequels and unrelated games from the same company in What's New pages. I've seen people explicitly DEFEND the What's New page saying the only games it shows are sequels (even when that isn't true) and claim that proves it's not advertising (when advertising a sequel to a game you own is still advertising). I'd be perfectly happy to say that advertising for DLC for a game you own is advertising, because it's still a paid product that you don't own which is having its information shoved into the user's face WITHOUT the option for said user to opt out of having said information forced on them.
Not even using GOG Galaxy 2.0 and the current version of their client does a better job than new Steam is doing. I have the option to have it open on a store homepage that's laid out a lot like Steam's new library homepage. I have the option of it opening on my library AND IT'S ACTUALLY A LIBRARY PAGE. And I have the option to do what Steam USED TO let me do, and OPEN BACK UP WHERE I LEFT OFF so I'm looking at the last game I was playing. It also runs consistently smoother and faster than Steam does post-update, doesn't lag when scrolling through my game list, has a cleaner game list with less clutter and less wasted space even though it has icons next to the game titles. And it never blackscreens or locks up for even a single second, let alone more than a minute at a time when I've been looking at something else on my PC for a while before alt+tabbing back to it. Nothing I've heard about 2.0 involves going backwards like Steam's new interface is doing.
Scenario #1: I have a game called They Are Billions in my Steam library. The devs are pretty good about posting only news about They Are Billions, so no problem, I only learn about updates to that game from What's New.
Scenario #2: Let's say another developer I bought a game from, say another game in my Library, The Forest, and I see news about "The Forest" in my What's New feed, but when I look at the actual contents of the post, the devs are really announcing a new game that's unrelated to "The Forest". Let's say that game is called Into The Deep (fictional game I made up for this example). (Note that the devs of The Forest have done no such thing in real life, though it is a real game in my Library).
From what I gather scenario 2 is what you're talking about and most upset by. If What's New is supposed to be only about games you own, then the fictional game "Into The Deep" should not appear there, as I would not own it. The reason it would be showing up however is because it would have been posted as news about "The Forest" and not in its own new news section for a new launch, greenlight or early access title. That would actually be the developer abusing the news/What's New section.
By adding that section to the Library, Valve has made that sort of abuse of the news section of their platform open to abuse for sure, and they should have thought of that and have a system in place to address such abuses of the system BEFORE forcing it upon us.
As I've said before, Valve, by pushing this ill-conceived update out so fast like this, before even fixing up the issues the beta testers reported, has essentially turned all their customers into unwilling beta testers. I never signed up to be a beta tester, nor did you, I'm assuming, so naturally we're all rather upset about it.
What I'm "most upset by" in this situation is that the What's New section is FORCED on users without an officially-supported method of removing it.
What I'm commenting on here isn't that, however. It's Kaldaien claiming that scenario #2 doesn't happen when it absolutely does. If it really isn't supposed to happen, the frequency with which I've seen it happen indicates that page isn't working as intended and, much like the new library itself, needs to go back into beta until it can have the massive failures in its operation resolved.
1. I didn't say you couldn't consider dlc or sequels ads (I just said they are also announcements and relevant to games you own)
2. I said devs can and are abusing the system when they show ads for merch and posting other content not related to the actual games.
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You seem to be missing [SK] Kaldaien's point. He is saying devs are abusing the system when you see things that aren't talking about content for the game you own. You have said in prior posts the devs that do this are using the feature as intended, in order to say it's Valve's fault and the devs are doing nothing wrong.
I don't know what Kadaien is citing, but if it's accurate then it is the devs who are abusing the system and not using it as Intended. I still don't personally have a problem with announcing sequels as I do care about those posts, but if It's actually against Valve's rules then that is very interesting and an important distinction.
If your problem is the feature itself and not the content it contains, then you should be clear about that because Valve could work to stop devs from abusing the system if they are in fact breaking the rules. If Valve does create mechanisms to stop "What's New" from showing content not related to game updates and you will still be bothered by the fact you can't hide it, it's better to say it now rather than use the abuse as a strawman because you think it makes the case for hiding it stronger.
Edit: To be less combative, but left in for consistency since a response was being written before I committed the changes.