Bannor Jul 17, 2019 @ 11:03am
[Suggestions] Several Suggestions
The following suggestions, if implemented, would greatly enhance my experience of the Steam application:

1) Age verification - ask me **ONCE**. Asking me to verify my age again, for the same Windows account on the same PC, and the same Steam account - REPEATEDLY - is absurd; it's not like I may have gotten any YOUNGER since the last time my age was verified.......

2) When browsing games in the store - allow us to filter *out* any games we own; it's not like we can buy the same game again anyway...... If I want to buy a game I own for someone else (as a gift, for example), I can browse them quite easily in my library, and go to the store page for that game from there to make the purchase.

3) Allow us to see a list of **ALL** the DLC we do not yet own for **ALL** the games in our game library, in ONE list - in the same way we can filter (for example) for only certain types of games, of our choosing). Having to go through each game in our library, one by one, to check for new DLC to buy is a real PITA.

Thanks for reading.
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Count_Dandyman Jul 17, 2019 @ 11:12am 
1) Not going to happen it is a legal requirement to ask every time

2&3 have both been asked for many times already they are either already on Valves to do list or on the list of things not worth bothering with by now. If you want to get them seen as being higher priority you need to give more reasons why.
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Jul 17, 2019 @ 11:13am 
1. Please use the search. Seriously, my copy/pasta from the last 500 threads...

Age is set by cookies. If you have to enter the date again, you are deleting Steam's cookies.

Last stage check (View Page button) will never be set.

Been asked soooooo many times that Valve even made a Q&A for it...

Q: Why do you KEEP asking my damn age throughout the store?

A: We're with you on this. Unfortunately, many rating agencies have rules that stipulate that we cannot save your age for longer than a single browsing session. It's frustrating, but know we're filling out those age gates too.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1708442022337025126

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Bannor Jul 17, 2019 @ 11:24am 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
1. Please use the search. Seriously, my copy/pasta from the last 500 threads...

Age is set by cookies. If you have to enter the date again, you are deleting Steam's cookies.

Last stage check (View Page button) will never be set.

Been asked soooooo many times that Valve even made a Q&A for it...

Q: Why do you KEEP asking my damn age throughout the store?

A: We're with you on this. Unfortunately, many rating agencies have rules that stipulate that we cannot save your age for longer than a single browsing session. It's frustrating, but know we're filling out those age gates too.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1708442022337025126

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Wait - firstly you imply that it's MY fault because I'm deleting Steam cookies; then you say that anyway Steam cannot save my age for longer than a single session. Which is it?

In any case - are you really saying that Steam can save data such as my email address, login name, login password and even much-more sensitive data such as my credit card details - but that somehow my age is SUCH a concern that it's prohibited to store it - even in a file on MY OWN computer? Really?

In which universe does this make sense?
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Jul 17, 2019 @ 11:27am 
Originally posted by Bannor:
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
1. Please use the search. Seriously, my copy/pasta from the last 500 threads...

Age is set by cookies. If you have to enter the date again, you are deleting Steam's cookies.

Last stage check (View Page button) will never be set.

Been asked soooooo many times that Valve even made a Q&A for it...



https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1708442022337025126

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Wait - firstly you imply that it's MY fault because I'm deleting Steam cookies; then you say that anyway Steam cannot save my age for longer than a single session. Which is it?

In any case - are you really saying that Steam can save data such as my email address, login name, login password and even much-more sensitive data such as my credit card details - but that somehow my age is SUCH a concern that it's prohibited to store it - even in a file on MY OWN computer? Really?

In which universe does this make sense?

If the date is not set, something is deleting the cookies. Understand what "saving the last stage check" means.

And that is "Valve" stating what they can and can not do in an official post.

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Yasahi Jul 17, 2019 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by Bannor:
Wait - firstly you imply that it's MY fault because I'm deleting Steam cookies; then you say that anyway Steam cannot save my age for longer than a single session. Which is it?

Both.

Originally posted by Bannor:
In any case - are you really saying that Steam can save data such as my email address, login name, login password and even much-more sensitive data such as my credit card details - but that somehow my age is SUCH a concern that it's prohibited to store it - even in a file on MY OWN computer? Really?

In which universe does this make sense?

In this universe. The rules for the age verification comes from the rating agencies.
Brian9824 Jul 17, 2019 @ 11:31am 
Originally posted by Bannor:

In any case - are you really saying that Steam can save data such as my email address, login name, login password and even much-more sensitive data such as my credit card details - but that somehow my age is SUCH a concern that it's prohibited to store it - even in a file on MY OWN computer? Really?

In which universe does this make sense?

It's not an issue about sensitive data. Laws require that every browsing session age must be asked for liability reasons. So if you get off your computer and someone else starts to use it they have to verify their age as well.

It's a federal requirement, Valve has no say in it. It's to limit minor's exposure to adult content.
Bannor Jul 17, 2019 @ 11:39am 
Originally posted by brian9824:
It's to limit minor's exposure to adult content.

I get this - really.

BUT - I have already verified that I **AM** an adult - and therefore **NOT** a minor. The arrow of time flows in only **ONE** direction; people can only get OLDER - not younger. This is a fundamental property of the universe we inhabit and is NOT subject to change - therefore I asked in which universe this requirement of repeated age verification makes sense.

I'm amazed that I even need to explain this.....
Last edited by Bannor; Jul 17, 2019 @ 11:40am
Crazy Tiger Jul 17, 2019 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by Bannor:
Originally posted by brian9824:
It's to limit minor's exposure to adult content.

I get this - really.

BUT - I have already verified that I **AM** an adult - and therefore **NOT** a minor. The arrow of time flows in only **ONE** direction; people can only get OLDER - not younger. This is a fundamental property of the universe we inhabit and is NOT subject to change - therefore I asked in which universe this requirement of repeated age verification makes sense.

I'm amazed that I even need to explain this.....

All irrelevant, as Valve cannot verify that it is actually you that is usingthe account every time. Hence the asking for the age.
Bannor Jul 17, 2019 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

All irrelevant, as Valve cannot verify that it is actually you that is usingthe account every time. Hence the asking for the age.

Yeah - it's a real fool-proof method of being certain about the age of a user; I mean, it's literally impossible for kids to select a date that is not 100% accurate..... /sarcasm
Brian9824 Jul 17, 2019 @ 11:56am 
Originally posted by Bannor:
Originally posted by brian9824:
It's to limit minor's exposure to adult content.

I get this - really.

BUT - I have already verified that I **AM** an adult - and therefore **NOT** a minor. The arrow of time flows in only **ONE** direction; people can only get OLDER - not younger. This is a fundamental property of the universe we inhabit and is NOT subject to change - therefore I asked in which universe this requirement of repeated age verification makes sense.

I'm amazed that I even need to explain this.....

I know its a novel thought that in a household more then 1 person might use a computer........

Originally posted by Bannor:
Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

All irrelevant, as Valve cannot verify that it is actually you that is usingthe account every time. Hence the asking for the age.

Yeah - it's a real fool-proof method of being certain about the age of a user; I mean, it's literally impossible for kids to select a date that is not 100% accurate..... /sarcasm

If that happens then Valve is legally covered as they asked and the user lied. Its for liability reasons and nothing more. Anyone who lies cant turn around and sue.
Last edited by Brian9824; Jul 17, 2019 @ 11:59am
Crazy Tiger Jul 17, 2019 @ 12:19pm 
Originally posted by Bannor:
Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

All irrelevant, as Valve cannot verify that it is actually you that is usingthe account every time. Hence the asking for the age.

Yeah - it's a real fool-proof method of being certain about the age of a user; I mean, it's literally impossible for kids to select a date that is not 100% accurate..... /sarcasm

Instead of trying to be sarcastic, think for a second. It's there so in case some kid sees something naughty on Steam and his mom sues Valve, that Valve can point and say "They had to have lied to actually see it.".
76561198001062896 Jul 17, 2019 @ 12:29pm 
Originally posted by Bannor:
Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

All irrelevant, as Valve cannot verify that it is actually you that is usingthe account every time. Hence the asking for the age.

Yeah - it's a real fool-proof method of being certain about the age of a user; I mean, it's literally impossible for kids to select a date that is not 100% accurate..... /sarcasm


its legal protection against possible legal cases

Valve wont open up themselves to soccer moms crying about how Lil Billy saw inappropriate content just so that you have to click less.

it has always been this way and wont change likely.
Aachen Jul 17, 2019 @ 12:38pm 
You should probably vent your frustration at the relevant rating agencies, as they’re the root of your issue.
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