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And you talk about Valve being greedy?
Try listing a CSGO Item on the Steam Market for idk... say, $345.
Then, Tell me how much money "you" will get after you sell that item.
( Hint, it's only $300. That means, the Fee is $45 )
Now, If you were the buyer of that Item,
Would you think that was a good deal?
If you were the Buyer of that Item, then you decided you wanted to resell it.
You could only sell it for $345.
Which means you would have to accept a Net Loss of $45...Just so some other sucker can pass along that same fee and give Steam yet another $45...
What happens after that same Skin that was Bought and Sold a hundred times over?
well...
It will have paid for itself...
Take a CSGO Knife for example...
It costs say, $400
but was bought and sold so many times it made Steam 5 Times what the Skin itself is even worth just with the amount of fees attached to it.
This is simply not a sustainable and Consumer/User Friendly way to manage a Market Based Economy.
It feels like a Very elaborate Scam.
Edit: I made a Support Ticket to ask this very same Question and
was told that the Fees are to Ward off Fraud.
Why then may I ask, does steam still not have the Security Measures to deal with the MASSIVE amount of Bot Nets that infiltrate and plague the Steam Market on a Daily Bassis?
If this were to happen to the NYSE. The FBI and SEC would Swarm every nook and Cranny to fix any issue that pose a threat to investors.
Websites like,
CSGO Fast
CSGOBackpack
CSGOTM
CSMoney
BitSkins
LootFarm
Ect ect ect...
They ALL Violate Steam's User Agreement by Creating Bot liaisons that act as automated Item Holding/Transferring Accounts.
And this isn't Fraud?
No... This is Flawed...
Glad to see someone else agrees.
Cases and drops. Some free and others paid ~$2.50 for a key.
If you're looking to make a living off the Steam Market, you're doing it wrong.
The fees are fine. Game devs, skin creators and Valve all get a cut.
Ok, and I'm sure your aware of how unlawful and unfair Valve's CSGO Cases are?
Oh, and Drops are 99% Worthless.... Nothing but Sand Dunes..
They Force users to Gamble in order to Stock the Market with Supply.
Most Skins arent even valve Made.
The Skin Designer gets a large Cut sure...
But it only serves to Trickle down from there..
This is a Pyramid Scheme.
2) nice Offensive profile name, looks like the report function needs another workout
3) the fees are 15% which is astronomically LOW for what is in effect a licensing deal
4) no one is buying a skin because of a person they’re buying it because it’s on CSGO. Just like a stick is worthless unless you brand it Harry Potter.
5) the skin only has value because of CSGO it has zero value outside of it
1) Yes I do.
2) Co cK is an actual Word, misused as an offensive synonym for Male Genitalia
(However in my case, It is not ) ... Google It.
3) 15% on every Trade is Rediculous Regardless of Licensing.
If it is in fact a Licensing Fee that we are paying, then after each specific Skin is Purchased,
We then should at least never have to pay a Fee to Purchase/Sell that same Skin/Item Type of any/Said Game thereof.
4) No one is buying a Skin because of a Person? I dont even know what your talking about with that one.
5) I am aware that the Market is what dictates the Value of Skins and Items but,
that has nothing to do with the Fees in regards to either buying or Selling those Items.
On Steam you are totally free to buy or not buy.
Your Trolling... You know exactly what I mean.
Every Skin in CSGO was brought into the Market via Cases.
Albeit, except for the Crappy Skins that get dropped that no one cares for.
EDIT: and Tradeups, which Require Purchasing Skins that have been Created from gambled Crates.
Im willing to bet money even you have contributed to this money ploy.
And no, I'm only selling the stuff I get for free, like cards, because I'm not into this kind of pixel-investments, I think it's stupid wasting money on skins.
I couldn't agree more, I wish they should shut down the selling of items and no trading them either. Make it so that if you get an item for a game, only you can use it.
Too many greedy people who think Valve shouldn't make money off of their own product.
Nope not a good deal, because I wouldn't pay a dime for that stuff.
But yes I think its fair, Valve makes the items, they made the store. They run servers for it, and all the back end and keep the inventory, banking fees and lots of other stuff we don't see because all behind the curtain that allows you to be able to do what you are doing, selling digital items for money. I have zero problem with Valve taking 15% of everything people sell.
So you want to be an item flipper... you can already do this, and if someone feels its worth over that price you'll make some money. If not, well I guess you won't.
Or you can wait for it to go down in price before buying it, or wait till it goes up in price and sell it.
All you are doing is trying to flip it for money, thats it. Its not like you buy it, make it better and then sell it.
So what if its paid for itself over and over again. You remind me of the guys I see on TV now and then, they buy something for cheap, do nothing to it, and then sell it for a much higher price.
Those people are greedy. At least when they clean something up, make it better than it was, they add Value to it.
These digital items to me have zero value. If someone wants to buy it off me for X amount, well ok thats them, they can delude themselves all they want.
Also got news for ya, the item is only worth at most the price of the key. Because thats what someone at one point had to pay to get it. Anything above that is gravy. If people want to waste their money on that, then why shouldn't Valve get a cut of it? Be thankful its not 20% or 50% or 90%.
Be thankful Valve doesn't set the max price of every item to be sold to be what ever the price of keys are.
Its not just sustainable, its growing each year.
As for the Consumer Friendly stuff... you are getting something that more then likely only cost someone at some point the price of a key and thats it. you should feel lucky that you got your hands on something like that and are making money off of it.
Also Valve tells you how much you are going to get for the item after their cut. Don't like it, take your chances else where, cause that chances losing your item and not getting anything for it at all.
You talk about Valve being greedy, and here you are saying they shouldn't make money of of stuff people keep reselling for higher and higher prices. Gee that doesn't sound greedy at all...
The "price" of using third-party sites is a lesser fee and THE RISK of getting scammed because you buying it outside of the steam market.
Make your pick, and there is still a simple solution to all this: If you don't like it, don't use is, simple as that.