Making your own backround for your profile

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I believe you should be able to create your own backround profile for steam. It should also allow gifs too. Let me know what you think :)

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Make a game, sell it on Steam, pass the "Learning" stage metric and add your own custom background.

[I just did a "Gaming"]

Originally posted by LowJack_VA1:

Originally posted by michal bob:

You can still do that as your pfp now. It could still get you banned as usual.

If that's the case,then show OP how to do it with custom backgrounds.

I meant that you could set your pfp as porn or a swastika, that's all.

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Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Make a game, sell it on Steam, pass the "Learning" stage metric and add your own custom background.

:qr:

I'm talking about profiles, not games.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Chapeua:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Make a game, sell it on Steam, pass the "Learning" stage metric and add your own custom background.

I'm talking about profiles, not games.

That's exactly what I AM talking about.

[Gwarsbane]

If you had bothered to use the search feature you would have discovered that this will NEVER happen for many reasons including but not limited to...

copyright infringement
lose of sales due to people making their own and not buying from the market
porn
racist crap
child porn


You seem to think its as easy as putting in a filter... guess what, filters are not 100% when it comes to images. You could have 100 pictures of what to you looks like the exact same picture, but to the filter they are 100 different pictures. A few changes here or there and it gets by the filter.

Google, who has 10s of thousands of people working for them, that are dedicated to information tech can't even stop stuff with their filters. What makes you think that a small company like Valve with only around 400ish people total, none of which are dedicated to the steam client and website (as the people who work on it can do it when ever they want, or work on other stuff).

And remember because of certain law changes in the EU, if Valve misses even 1 single copyrighted image, that means HUGE fines for them even though they are not the ones who updated the image.

Steam has 90+ million active accounts each month and over 1 billion accounts in total.

Valve can't even stop stuff from being uploaded now that breaks their rules, what makes you think that will change if your suggestion is allowed.




Also animated anything on peoples profiles is again asking for trouble. Not only with the stuff I mentioned above, but also idiots are going to have a field day uploading stuff that triggers medical conditions. Look up photosensitive epilepsy, short versions, its people who can have an epileptic seizures when exposed to even a very short duration of flashing video. 1 to 3 seconds is more than enough to do it to people.



But again you would have known all this stuff... HAD YOU USED THE SEARCH FEATURE FIRST AND ACTUALLY READ STUFF.

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Originally posted by Gwarsbane:

If you had bothered to use the search feature you would have discovered that this will NEVER happen for many reasons including but not limited to...

copyright infringement
lose of sales due to people making their own and not buying from the market
porn
racist crap
child porn


You seem to think its as easy as putting in a filter... guess what, filters are not 100% when it comes to images. You could have 100 pictures of what to you looks like the exact same picture, but to the filter they are 100 different pictures. A few changes here or there and it gets by the filter.

Google, who has 10s of thousands of people working for them, that are dedicated to information tech can't even stop stuff with their filters. What makes you think that a small company like Valve with only around 400ish people total, none of which are dedicated to the steam client and website (as the people who work on it can do it when ever they want, or work on other stuff).

And remember because of certain law changes in the EU, if Valve misses even 1 single copyrighted image, that means HUGE fines for them even though they are not the ones who updated the image.

Steam has 90+ million active accounts each month and over 1 billion accounts in total.

Valve can't even stop stuff from being uploaded now that breaks their rules, what makes you think that will change if your suggestion is allowed.




Also animated anything on peoples profiles is again asking for trouble. Not only with the stuff I mentioned above, but also idiots are going to have a field day uploading stuff that triggers medical conditions. Look up photosensitive epilepsy, short versions, its people who can have an epileptic seizures when exposed to even a very short duration of flashing video. 1 to 3 seconds is more than enough to do it to people.



But again you would have known all this stuff... HAD YOU USED THE SEARCH FEATURE FIRST AND ACTUALLY READ STUFF.

I said checkbox, not filter also how do profiles not get the same treatment?

[Gwarsbane]

Originally posted by Chapeua:

I said checkbox, not filter also how do profiles not get the same treatment?

It doesn't matter if there was a check box or not to allow people to see the stuff... If Valve allowed copyrighted material to be uploaded and shown on peoples profiles they would quickly be sued. A check box that stops you from seeing something will not stop that from happening.

So they would need a filter that filters everything being uploaded. Which as I have already said that even with a company dedicated to that kind of thing, who has 10s of thousands of people to work on it, fail to do.

If in google you use the filter to make everything safe for work/child safe, you can still find stuff that make it past, its not perfect.

Also to filter out something you have to know about it first. Valve would not be able to filter for an image you have made that you are selling somewhere, if they don't know about it. This is how google and youtube detect that people have copyrighted material in their videos, the people need to send in something that lets google/youtube figure out the video someone uploaded has copyrighted materials.


Also some people have no idea they have photosensitive epilepsy till one day, they see video that just happens to connect with the broken part of their brain and triggers a epileptic seizures. For a very recent example of this, look up stuff about a banned pokemon tv episode that ever only aired once in Japan. Because of some quick flashing colors, just seconds worth in the episode, over 600 kids ended up in the hospital. Do you think most or even any of them or their parents knew that they would be effected by something like that?

So someone might not even know they are afflicted with the issue so doesn't even cross their mind to "hit the check box" and BOOM they are on the floor, alone with no one around to help them.


So no, a "check box" will not do. There would have to be filters and even then you didn't actually counter the biggest thing about this, Valve and the game devs losing lots of money because many would not buy their backgrounds after that. Its easy enough to make your own one that doesn't break any copyright laws or break any rules valve has that many would just not bother buying stuff anymore.

[Legostyle03]

Originally posted by Gwarsbane:

If you had bothered to use the search feature you would have discovered that this will NEVER happen for many reasons including but not limited to...

copyright infringement
lose of sales due to people making their own and not buying from the market
porn
racist crap
child porn


You seem to think its as easy as putting in a filter... guess what, filters are not 100% when it comes to images. You could have 100 pictures of what to you looks like the exact same picture, but to the filter they are 100 different pictures. A few changes here or there and it gets by the filter.

Google, who has 10s of thousands of people working for them, that are dedicated to information tech can't even stop stuff with their filters. What makes you think that a small company like Valve with only around 400ish people total, none of which are dedicated to the steam client and website (as the people who work on it can do it when ever they want, or work on other stuff).

And remember because of certain law changes in the EU, if Valve misses even 1 single copyrighted image, that means HUGE fines for them even though they are not the ones who updated the image.

Steam has 90+ million active accounts each month and over 1 billion accounts in total.

Valve can't even stop stuff from being uploaded now that breaks their rules, what makes you think that will change if your suggestion is allowed.




Also animated anything on peoples profiles is again asking for trouble. Not only with the stuff I mentioned above, but also idiots are going to have a field day uploading stuff that triggers medical conditions. Look up photosensitive epilepsy, short versions, its people who can have an epileptic seizures when exposed to even a very short duration of flashing video. 1 to 3 seconds is more than enough to do it to people.



But again you would have known all this stuff... HAD YOU USED THE SEARCH FEATURE FIRST AND ACTUALLY READ STUFF.

You can already do everything you said with pfp, should valve remove those? The real reason we don't have custom profile pics is because Valve makes extra money off people buying it, while no one complains about a feature that is free on most other platforms thats paid on Steam.

[Ness_and_Sonic]

Not a good idea as someone could get a premium background, copy it, then upload it as their own for free, thus devauling them big time.

[Goggles]

Originally posted by Ness_and_Sonic|Bye Reviews.:

Not a good idea as someone could get a premium background, copy it, then upload it as their own for free, thus devauling them big time.

This reason alone is why it will never be a thing.

[Vault Hunter 101]

Valve would get tons of copyright issues because people would use copyrighted images, also scammers would upload some "Valve" background to trick people that they are employees

[Legostyle03]

Originally posted by Vault Hunter 101:

Valve would get tons of copyright issues because people would use copyrighted images, also scammers would upload some "Valve" background to trick people that they are employees

You can already upload copyrighted pfp, yet i don't see Valve getting any copyright issues with those. You can also upload a "Valve" pfp, yet pfp are still here.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

The extra moderation for it would not be worth the hassle.

Crashing the Market and the devs extra income would also not be good.

[Gwarsbane]

Originally posted by Qμel:

Originally posted by Vault Hunter 101:

Valve would get tons of copyright issues because people would use copyrighted images, also scammers would upload some "Valve" background to trick people that they are employees

You can already upload copyrighted pfp, yet i don't see Valve getting any copyright issues with those. You can also upload a "Valve" pfp, yet pfp are still here.

Thats right, WE don't see it, because its not made public. They have a way for the copyright owners to report something to get it removed, and if users report it, it will be removed. If mods/admins come across something that is copyrighted on their own, its removed.

Its not like they put up notices everywhere saying "This is our copyright remove it or else." or "We've been asked to remove this image here." You will never see that. Everything happens behind closed doors.

BUT with the new laws (that have not yet been implemented yet, but have already passed in the EU and some other places) Valve will have to filter everything that gets uploaded.

Again this is a very daunting task thats nearly impossible to get right 100% of the time, again as I have mentioned that even google, with its 10s of thousands of people dedicated to making filters to pick up stuff like this, still doesn't have a filter thats works 100%, what makes you think 400 people who work for Valve, which very few will be dedicated to making filters will have better luck than google?

So what makes you think Valve would want to add even more ways for copyright protected stuff to be uploaded? If anything, things might start to get locked down more once the laws go into effect because Valve usually changes things to effect everyone the say way, so if it can't allow uploading of stuff in the EU, no one else around the world will be allowed.

Who knows, maybe they are working on a filter right now, we don't know because many companies are silent on stuff like this. Valve has never really been the talkative kind of company.


You seem to think its so easy to stop stuff, its not. People are always trying to get around the filters. Always trying to hide stuff. There is no way Valve and the group of mods could ever hope to moderate every single thread, every single group, every single profile when there are 90 million+ active accounts every month and over 1 BILLION accounts in total.

Maybe if they had a million moderators who were each tasked with looking after at the minimum of 100 profiles each which they should have to search each and every single hour of every single day, maybe they could keep up with the copyrighted stuff being uploaded, maybe half that number if an automated system was put in place that told the mod that "x profile was updated, what was updated and included a link to what was changed" but then you would also have lots of people out there that do changes to their profile every single day for what ever reason.




And yet again, we point out, the loss in sales that would happen.