Game account merging

[Yækkis]

This is something me and other people have discussed multiple times and really i see no problem with it.

The initial idea is to move games from one user to another, you are probably thinking why?
We already got family share right?
Thats not what i mean, there is many games that are not supported on family sharing for good reasons as going around bans and such.




The idea: Have the ability to transfer games from one account to another with a 30 day time period between the start of the transfer until the games are actually transferred so you have a chance to stop it if its not initiated by you yourself.

The security will therefor be as said above 30 days perioud from the start of the transfer until the game is actually transferred. Add mobile authenticator requirment aswell and it should be a very small chance to be hacked and its all around a nice idea.

Please look into this Valve.

-aKre

[creation111kill]

G 2 A does it kinguin i can name a lot more and it is not prohibited in the TOS i personally have bought a CS:GO account from G 2 A as i wanted to buy the game

[creation111kill]

and yes everytime i put the company name steam removes it

[Darren]

I know which one you are talking about and that is because the company is NOT a legitimate reseller, and sells only keys. Those keys are absolutely worthless once used. Services on which those keys are redeemed (Steam, UPlay, Origin) all prohibit accounts transfers and selling. Hence there is nothing to sell from that illegitimate companies accounts anyway (they have no value).

Edit: Apparently even they don't allow account transfers:

3.13 The User and the Seller shall neither use other Users’ and Sellers’ accounts nor make their accounts available to other Users, Sellers or third parties. The above does not apply to the Seller in terms of making his/her account available to the persons entitled to act on his/her behalf and his/her employees, who are entitled by the Seller to use the account on the Site. {連結已移除}G2A.COM may request from the Seller a list of persons entitled to use the account, which the Seller shall deliver within 7 days.

[creation111kill]

they are not assured by steam it does not mean they arent legitimate as they do use security for purchases but thats not the point here they do sell accounts but usually they are specifically made for the purpose of re selling not personal accounts as even the one i bought was stamped with the afformentioned sites name anyway the point here is merging or transferring games from another account so lets not get into this messy situation

[Darren]

引用自 creation111kill：

they are not assured by steam it does not mean they arent legitimate as they do use security for purchases but thats not the point here they do sell accounts but usually they are specifically made for the purpose of re selling not personal accounts as even the one i bought was stamped with the afformentioned sites name anyway the point here is merging or transferring games from another account so lets not get into this messy situation

The reason why no sites allow this is because they aren't allowed to. They sell you a non-transferable license to use the product. Once someone has that license that's it, it can't be transferred to anyone else or sold. They sell you this because that is what the game publishers/developers let them provide you.

In the rare case where a game development company actually wants to allow transferable licenses they would issue you a new CD key (for the transfer) and revoke the previous CD key (to remove it from your existing account) but there is no benefit to them in doing so and a lot of hassle so typically they aren't going to do it.

[Satoru]

Sounds like someone has a VAC banned alt

And we should care why?

[creation111kill]

As I said let's not get into re selling games or so on and as for vac bans I have none I just wish I had the ability to merge my accounts into my main for convenience

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Can I Merge Accounts

Steam accounts can not be merged together.

Per the Steam Subscriber Agreement, Steam game subscriptions / CD keys are nontransferable and cannot be reset / moved between Steam accounts.

SteamID, Steam Account Names, Merging Accounts and Deleting Accounts

[Satoru]

引用自 creation111kill：

As I said let's not get into re selling games or so on and as for vac bans I have none I just wish I had the ability to merge my accounts into my main for convenience

Ignoring what would effectively happen with such a system doesn't make those consequences do not exist nor should not be taken into account when looking at the viability of a system

You can't family share libraries and ply them simultaneously because that would in effect create a massive game rental underground. And you "wanting to do something" doesn't trump those concerns

[Yækkis]

引用自 Tito Shivanstein：

引用自 twitch.tv/akre_tv：

So then what you are saying is that 2-factor isnt safe enough?
Because last time i checked its seen as the hack "proof" secuity for accounts.

I say the 2FA is irrelevant as a measure to stop game trades to happen. Two people with 2FA enabled can agree to trade each other a game as much as people without.

It's not the 'hacker gets your account and skims all your games out of it' scenario the issue here. It's the 'Johnny gives $20 to Bob for the CoD copy in their library' scenario. Which is heaps and bound more likely to happen at a massive scale if licenses could be transferred.

No offence but you havent read the post then. with a 30 day wait time until the game is actually transferred from start to end + the 2 factor under the same number it would be very hard for someone to rip your steam account.

[Darren]

引用自 twitch.tv/akre_tv：

引用自 Tito Shivanstein：

I say the 2FA is irrelevant as a measure to stop game trades to happen. Two people with 2FA enabled can agree to trade each other a game as much as people without.

It's not the 'hacker gets your account and skims all your games out of it' scenario the issue here. It's the 'Johnny gives $20 to Bob for the CoD copy in their library' scenario. Which is heaps and bound more likely to happen at a massive scale if licenses could be transferred.

No offence but you havent read the post then. with a 30 day wait time until the game is actually transferred from start to end + the 2 factor under the same number it would be very hard for someone to rip your steam account.

Reread his post. What he is saying is the problem isn't "hacker gets your account and steals them" it's that Johnny gives $20 to Bob for the CoD copy from his account which in turn is a lost sale from the publisher to Bob (eventually CoD would have been $20 and Bob would have bought it directly) meaning less money for the publisher and in turn all of the issues that stem from that.

[Yækkis]

引用自 Darren：

引用自 twitch.tv/akre_tv：

No offence but you havent read the post then. with a 30 day wait time until the game is actually transferred from start to end + the 2 factor under the same number it would be very hard for someone to rip your steam account.

Reread his post. What he is saying is the problem isn't "hacker gets your account and steals them" it's that Johnny gives $20 to Bob for the CoD copy from his account which in turn is a lost sale from the publisher to Bob (eventually CoD would have been $20 and Bob would have bought it directly) meaning less money for the publisher and in turn all of the issues that stem from that.

why wouldnt bob just refund that?

[Yækkis]

引用自 Darren：

引用自 twitch.tv/akre_tv：

No offence but you havent read the post then. with a 30 day wait time until the game is actually transferred from start to end + the 2 factor under the same number it would be very hard for someone to rip your steam account.

Reread his post. What he is saying is the problem isn't "hacker gets your account and steals them" it's that Johnny gives $20 to Bob for the CoD copy from his account which in turn is a lost sale from the publisher to Bob (eventually CoD would have been $20 and Bob would have bought it directly) meaning less money for the publisher and in turn all of the issues that stem from that.

and again you didnt read. it needs to be under the same phone number also

[Darren]

引用自 twitch.tv/akre_tv：

引用自 Darren：

Reread his post. What he is saying is the problem isn't "hacker gets your account and steals them" it's that Johnny gives $20 to Bob for the CoD copy from his account which in turn is a lost sale from the publisher to Bob (eventually CoD would have been $20 and Bob would have bought it directly) meaning less money for the publisher and in turn all of the issues that stem from that.

and again you didnt read. it needs to be under the same phone number also

*sigh*

The problem isn't Bob stealing the game!

The problem is the publisher not getting the money for the sale.

This in turn gives them less money to make the next game. So either they hike up the price for the game or they remove their game from Steam and stick to Origin/UPlay where the game cannot be transferred.

[creation111kill]

and as stated i would like merge my accounts as would others but its not an i want situation its id like to be able to do this and as for the bob complex here bob could directly buy the game as a re sale but what if you could only transfer your whole library at once then bob couldnt just buy 1 title he would have to buy everything not just what he wants making it pointless and ineffective