Permanent Filters for certain Genres

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Lets say there is a game tag for a genre that I have no intention of playing. Why not have a tag list that one can put games they have no interest in, that removes those games from the store and queue. And it would show a highly rated game once a week/month from those banned tags to give an option of a game that might interest you.

[Start_Running]

Since no game has only one genre, such a thing would basically be no different from the current mode of operation. A store will always use a greedy match. Meaning so long as the game has one genre you're not blocking, you will see it.

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Автор сообщения: Start_Running

Since no game has only one genre, such a thing would basically be no different from the current mode of operation. A store will always use a greedy match. Meaning so long as the game has one genre you're not blocking, you will see it.

True, I would hope to at least filter games that are primarily a certain genre like shooters, card game, or mmos. But maybe instead of genres if that won't work, how about series? I have no intention of playing Call of Duty or the Star Wars games, but a filter to remove them from my view would be nice.

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Автор сообщения: Grima The Fell Dragon

True, I would hope to at least filter games that are primarily a certain genre like shooters, card game, or mmos.

unluckily no game genre is more important then the others (some tags are more important then other tags ,but there is not a feature like a primaty tag)

But maybe instead of genres if that won't work, how about series? I have no intention of playing Call of Duty or the Star Wars games, but a filter to remove them from my view would be nice.

it doesn't work with series ,only with tags (genres)


just a little off topic side note : what the hell ,you don't like star wars O_O

[dynastystar]

Автор сообщения: Grima The Fell Dragon

Lets say there is a game tag for a genre that I have no intention of playing. Why not have a tag list that one can put games they have no interest in, that removes those games from the store and queue. And it would show a highly rated game once a week/month from those banned tags to give an option of a game that might interest you.

such a feature already exists. I don't use it but here's what you do. Go to the Steam Store, go to the area of the page where your queue is, click "Learn more" and then click "customize your queue". I can understand how you might miss that, but from there it should be pretty self explanatory. You can do something similiar by going to the "Featured and Recommended" section, and then click the icon in the top right corner of any product, click "Preferences" Again, from there you can filter out what you don't want.

[username12121]

Автор сообщения: dynastystar

Автор сообщения: Grima The Fell Dragon

Lets say there is a game tag for a genre that I have no intention of playing. Why not have a tag list that one can put games they have no interest in, that removes those games from the store and queue. And it would show a highly rated game once a week/month from those banned tags to give an option of a game that might interest you.

such a feature already exists. I don't use it but here's what you do. Go to the Steam Store, go to the area of the page where your queue is, click "Learn more" and then click "customize your queue". I can understand how you might miss that, but from there it should be pretty self explanatory. You can do something similiar by going to the "Featured and Recommended" section, and then click the icon in the top right corner of any product, click "Preferences" Again, from there you can filter out what you don't want.

The "customise queue" feature is a part of the "preferences" section that you mentioned. The problem with the entire set of preferences available is that even they only affect the queue and certain other parts of the FRONT PAGE of the store, even though the claim is made that they will affect "my store" (under the tool-tip attached to the question mark near the top of the page).

As soon as you leave the front page to search deeper within the store, those preferences no longer have any effect. I would guess that the preferences section is either just there for appearances, or just for the benefit of casual window shoppers.

[Jersey77]

Filtering only works when the proper tags are in place on a products store page to begin with. This is frequently not the case. If the tags are not there, then that particular item will get past any filters you have made and you'll end up having to hit 'Not Interested' on it anyway.

Toss in the fact that if a product actually has a tag you do not like, if it has a tag Steam thinks you DO like that will supercede the one you don't EVERY single time.

I could be wrong about this next part, but I believe that the filter lists for both the New Releases and Recommendation queues have a limit to the number of tags you can put on them. I believe it's ten for each and if you add an eleventh tag, Steam won't tell you that that is too many or stop you in any way, it will just ignore that tag and any you put after it without telling you.

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Автор сообщения: nameous name

Автор сообщения: Grima The Fell Dragon

True, I would hope to at least filter games that are primarily a certain genre like shooters, card game, or mmos.

unluckily no game genre is more important then the others (some tags are more important then other tags ,but there is not a feature like a primaty tag)

But maybe instead of genres if that won't work, how about series? I have no intention of playing Call of Duty or the Star Wars games, but a filter to remove them from my view would be nice.

it doesn't work with series ,only with tags (genres)


just a little off topic side note : what the hell ,you don't like star wars O_O

I like the movies, but I'm not interested in the games.

I just wish there way to show that if I don't like a genre shoving it in my face will not make like it.

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

As an added note, I use the preference to filter both in the store and queue, but it doesn't work. I wish there was a way to tell the queue that I'm either not interested at the time, I'm not interested until the game exits early access/gets more reviews, not interested at all, or already refunded a game of the same genre so it should be either removed from the list or put in lower priority.

All I would like is a more precise filtering, cause a lot of the game I own I rarely found through the queue. I found most through friend recommendations, seeing it on YouTube, or through another gaming site.

[dynastystar]

Автор сообщения: username12121

Автор сообщения: dynastystar

such a feature already exists. I don't use it but here's what you do. Go to the Steam Store, go to the area of the page where your queue is, click "Learn more" and then click "customize your queue". I can understand how you might miss that, but from there it should be pretty self explanatory. You can do something similiar by going to the "Featured and Recommended" section, and then click the icon in the top right corner of any product, click "Preferences" Again, from there you can filter out what you don't want.

The "customise queue" feature is a part of the "preferences" section that you mentioned. The problem with the entire set of preferences available is that even they only affect the queue and certain other parts of the FRONT PAGE of the store, even though the claim is made that they will affect "my store" (under the tool-tip attached to the question mark near the top of the page).

As soon as you leave the front page to search deeper within the store, those preferences no longer have any effect. I would guess that the preferences section is either just there for appearances, or just for the benefit of casual window shoppers.

ehhh, it seems like it does affect it. For example, I have Early Access productsfiltered out. As a result, I haven't seen any Early Access games on the storefront in a year or two(since I changed the preference). Only time I see Early Access titles is when somebody I follow does a video or stream on a game, I go to Steam to check it out and then I'm disappointed when its in Early Access and say "PASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS".

I don't filter out tags because filtering out tags would mean that I'd filter out stuff that I'm actually interested in. To give an example of how tags tend to be wildly inaccurate the tags are, look at the tags for Fidget Spinner Simulator.

Also, OP DID say "that removes those games from the store and queue."

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Автор сообщения: dynastystar

Автор сообщения: username12121

The "customise queue" feature is a part of the "preferences" section that you mentioned. The problem with the entire set of preferences available is that even they only affect the queue and certain other parts of the FRONT PAGE of the store, even though the claim is made that they will affect "my store" (under the tool-tip attached to the question mark near the top of the page).

As soon as you leave the front page to search deeper within the store, those preferences no longer have any effect. I would guess that the preferences section is either just there for appearances, or just for the benefit of casual window shoppers.

ehhh, it seems like it does affect it. For example, I have Early Access productsfiltered out. As a result, I haven't seen any Early Access games on the storefront in a year or two(since I changed the preference). Only time I see Early Access titles is when somebody I follow does a video or stream on a game, I go to Steam to check it out and then I'm disappointed when its in Early Access and say "PASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS".

I don't filter out tags because filtering out tags would mean that I'd filter out stuff that I'm actually interested in. To give an example of how tags tend to be wildly inaccurate the tags are, look at the tags for Fidget Spinner Simulator.

Also, OP DID say "that removes those games from the store and queue."

That is the problem, a lot of junk games and one that don't interest you share tags with perfectly good games.

For example; Close Me and Red Haze are really good horror games that have tags I normally avoid; horror and gore, cause of the swarm of bad games. I only found out about the games through seeing one of the developer's previous games on YouTube.

Maybe Steam needs more of a quality filter/tag filter overhaul to clean up the store and make it easier to find games.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

If you're looking for a way to filter the search:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=496634447

Basically, search for a tag you don't like, then edit the URL to put a negative sign in front of the tag number.

Works better in a real browser than in the Steam client browser which is suck in many ways.



With regards to "show us a highly rated game from the genre we've blocked", do keep in mind that ratings are from people who've bought the game on Steam, so they'd be from people who like the genre itself. For example, I have absolutely no intention to buy Nekopara Vol. 1, because I dislike it for what it aims to be, but because it does a good job of being what it aims to be, it has a 93% recent rating and a 95% overall rating, the latter clocking in at "overwhelmingly positive". TLDR: Keep in mind that not everyone buys every game, and the opinion pool isn't the opinion of all gamers on something.

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Автор сообщения: Quint the PSY Duck

If you're looking for a way to filter the search:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=496634447

Basically, search for a tag you don't like, then edit the URL to put a negative sign in front of the tag number.

Works better in a real browser than in the Steam client browser which is suck in many ways.



With regards to "show us a highly rated game from the genre we've blocked", do keep in mind that ratings are from people who've bought the game on Steam, so they'd be from people who like the genre itself. For example, I have absolutely no intention to buy Nekopara Vol. 1, because I dislike it for what it aims to be, but because it does a good job of being what it aims to be, it has a 93% recent rating and a 95% overall rating, the latter clocking in at "overwhelmingly positive". TLDR: Keep in mind that not everyone buys every game, and the opinion pool isn't the opinion of all gamers on something.

True, I have an admittedly small range of games that interest me, but there are some games that have gotten me to go outside my comfort zone.

But finding a good game, or a game you didn't know you wanted shouldn't be a Herculean task. If they had updated Steam green light, to where it was kind of like the queu,e on the front page with new games daily that are releasing soon or just coming out of Early Access.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

I don't think I'd trust Steam's suggestions to do that task, though.

It'd be better just to ask a friend who knows your taste well, or hell, just to post a thread around these parts, including some criteria on the kind of game you want to play (i.e. not just "suggest me a game, end of story").

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Автор сообщения: Quint the PSY Duck

I don't think I'd trust Steam's suggestions to do that task, though.

It'd be better just to ask a friend who knows your taste well, or hell, just to post a thread around these parts, including some criteria on the kind of game you want to play (i.e. not just "suggest me a game, end of story").

I should do that once I get through the games I need to finish. I really need to make time this weekend to start Skyrim.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Автор сообщения: Grima The Fell Dragon

Автор сообщения: Quint the PSY Duck

I don't think I'd trust Steam's suggestions to do that task, though.

It'd be better just to ask a friend who knows your taste well, or hell, just to post a thread around these parts, including some criteria on the kind of game you want to play (i.e. not just "suggest me a game, end of story").

I should do that once I get through the games I need to finish. I really need to make time this weekend to start Skyrim.

I would say "I know that feel", except my weekend is going to be spent dealing with a certain weather phenomenon that curls counter-clockwise and throws high winds at things over a massive geographic area.