Permanent Filters for certain Genres

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Lets say there is a game tag for a genre that I have no intention of playing. Why not have a tag list that one can put games they have no interest in, that removes those games from the store and queue. And it would show a highly rated game once a week/month from those banned tags to give an option of a game that might interest you.

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Quint the PSY Duck の投稿を引用：

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I should do that once I get through the games I need to finish. I really need to make time this weekend to start Skyrim.

I would say "I know that feel", except my weekend is going to be spent dealing with a certain weather phenomenon that curls counter-clockwise and throws high winds at things over a massive geographic area.

Hope you stay safe. I live in the part of Texas where thankfully the last hurricane came nowhere near. Its like mother nature is saying "Oh, you wanna screw up me? Well here's two in a row super dangerous hurricanes!"

[Ocsabat]

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Grima The Fell Dragon の投稿を引用：

Lets say there is a game tag for a genre that I have no intention of playing. Why not have a tag list that one can put games they have no interest in, that removes those games from the store and queue. And it would show a highly rated game once a week/month from those banned tags to give an option of a game that might interest you.

such a feature already exists. I don't use it but here's what you do. Go to the Steam Store, go to the area of the page where your queue is, click "Learn more" and then click "customize your queue". I can understand how you might miss that, but from there it should be pretty self explanatory. You can do something similiar by going to the "Featured and Recommended" section, and then click the icon in the top right corner of any product, click "Preferences" Again, from there you can filter out what you don't want.

Those options only affect the front Store page and your discovery queue. They do nothing for the rest of the store.

[username12121]

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The "customise queue" feature is a part of the "preferences" section that you mentioned. The problem with the entire set of preferences available is that even they only affect the queue and certain other parts of the FRONT PAGE of the store, even though the claim is made that they will affect "my store" (under the tool-tip attached to the question mark near the top of the page).

As soon as you leave the front page to search deeper within the store, those preferences no longer have any effect. I would guess that the preferences section is either just there for appearances, or just for the benefit of casual window shoppers.

ehhh, it seems like it does affect it. For example, I have Early Access productsfiltered out. As a result, I haven't seen any Early Access games on the storefront in a year or two(since I changed the preference). Only time I see Early Access titles is when somebody I follow does a video or stream on a game, I go to Steam to check it out and then I'm disappointed when its in Early Access and say "PASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS".

I don't filter out tags because filtering out tags would mean that I'd filter out stuff that I'm actually interested in. To give an example of how tags tend to be wildly inaccurate the tags are, look at the tags for Fidget Spinner Simulator.

Also, OP DID say "that removes those games from the store and queue."

Seems my experience and your experience are different, although I do note that you mentioned the word "storefront" which to me sounds like the same thing as the store's "front page" which is where i mentioned was the place where those filters do work.

However, if like me you click on a tag or a genre such as "action" you'll soon find that those things you've asked to be filtered out from "my store" (your store) are no longer filtered out at all. I only have one preference designated to not be shown in "my store" and that is early access. The preference has no affect when I'm browsing the store like that, it only works on the front page. For me that's useless as I don't browse the 10,000 + range of products on Steam by only looking at the front page and the queue.

[dynastystar]

Grima The Fell Dragon の投稿を引用：

True, I have an admittedly small range of games that interest me, but there are some games that have gotten me to go outside my comfort zone.

But finding a good game, or a game you didn't know you wanted shouldn't be a Herculean task. If they had updated Steam green light, to where it was kind of like the queu,e on the front page with new games daily that are releasing soon or just coming out of Early Access.

I pretty much only buy "weeb games", with a few exceptions. Most of the games I'd want that aren't a weeb game get put in a bundle anyways, and quite frequently weeb games don't get put in bundles. Probably because the "bundle market" so to speak is almost non-existant there. There's a bundle out right now that I plan to buy that takes the aesthetic of weeb games, but both studios(Winged Cloud and Huniepot) are Western so they are actually aware of how popular bundles are over there.

[dynastystar]

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ehhh, it seems like it does affect it. For example, I have Early Access productsfiltered out. As a result, I haven't seen any Early Access games on the storefront in a year or two(since I changed the preference). Only time I see Early Access titles is when somebody I follow does a video or stream on a game, I go to Steam to check it out and then I'm disappointed when its in Early Access and say "PASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS".

I don't filter out tags because filtering out tags would mean that I'd filter out stuff that I'm actually interested in. To give an example of how tags tend to be wildly inaccurate the tags are, look at the tags for Fidget Spinner Simulator.

Also, OP DID say "that removes those games from the store and queue."

Seems my experience and your experience are different, although I do note that you mentioned the word "storefront" which to me sounds like the same thing as the store's "front page" which is where i mentioned was the place where those filters do work.

However, if like me you click on a tag or a genre such as "action" you'll soon find that those things you've asked to be filtered out from "my store" (your store) are no longer filtered out at all. I only have one preference designated to not be shown in "my store" and that is early access. The preference has no affect when I'm browsing the store like that, it only works on the front page. For me that's useless as I don't browse the 10,000 + range of products on Steam by only looking at the front page and the queue.

Yeah, I'm aware of the fact that filtering out tags doesn't work like that. When you click a particular tag, it kinda follows the algorithm of searching for the game, which I'm happy that even if you've filtered out a product, you CAN still find it. The only browsing of the Store Page I do is checking the "anime" tag, and checking the "recommended" section.

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i thought that this was in the help section ,instead it's a suggestion ,im an idiot XD

+1 for the primary genre (or tag) ,that's a cool idea

[Ocsabat]

It would be really nice if Steam had a properly configured text based search that allows you the choice of searching by user generated tags or by searching Store page text.

If Steam had that, I couldn't care less about what shows up on the store page. I just want a search engine that allows me more flexibility in refining search results.

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

Ocsabat の投稿を引用：

It would be really nice if Steam had a properly configured text based search that allows you the choice of searching by user generated tags or by searching Store page text.

If Steam had that, I couldn't care less about what shows up on the store page. I just want a search engine that allows me more flexibility in refining search results.

That would be nice to be able to refine the results with to only show mostly positive and up games.

Ooh, that reminds me of something that's always bothered me. There's no way to look for games that will run on your graphics card.
Yeah, I know I probably need to get a new laptop with a better graphics card than Intel HD. But most of the games on here mostly talk about high end cards and give no equivalent to know what the benchmark is. There's got to be a way to make an add on that you can have to check a game while on the store page to see if it'll at the minimum.

[Grima The Fell Dragon]

dynastystar の投稿を引用：

username12121 の投稿を引用：

Seems my experience and your experience are different, although I do note that you mentioned the word "storefront" which to me sounds like the same thing as the store's "front page" which is where i mentioned was the place where those filters do work.

However, if like me you click on a tag or a genre such as "action" you'll soon find that those things you've asked to be filtered out from "my store" (your store) are no longer filtered out at all. I only have one preference designated to not be shown in "my store" and that is early access. The preference has no affect when I'm browsing the store like that, it only works on the front page. For me that's useless as I don't browse the 10,000 + range of products on Steam by only looking at the front page and the queue.

Yeah, I'm aware of the fact that filtering out tags doesn't work like that. When you click a particular tag, it kinda follows the algorithm of searching for the game, which I'm happy that even if you've filtered out a product, you CAN still find it. The only browsing of the Store Page I do is checking the "anime" tag, and checking the "recommended" section.

I mostly but anime based games as well. I'll occasionally poke my head out to see if other games look good, see a sea of junk games that are for a slightly insulting reason called casual, and go whelp back to anime games.

At least in anime, as long as the characters don't look godawful the gameplay and story is usually good.

Maybe a new filter should be for developers. If most people could filter bad developers out, it would probably clear up the store and reveal some hidden gems.

[dynastystar]

Grima The Fell Dragon の投稿を引用：

dynastystar の投稿を引用：

Yeah, I'm aware of the fact that filtering out tags doesn't work like that. When you click a particular tag, it kinda follows the algorithm of searching for the game, which I'm happy that even if you've filtered out a product, you CAN still find it. The only browsing of the Store Page I do is checking the "anime" tag, and checking the "recommended" section.

I mostly but anime based games as well. I'll occasionally poke my head out to see if other games look good, see a sea of junk games that are for a slightly insulting reason called casual, and go whelp back to anime games.

At least in anime, as long as the characters don't look godawful the gameplay and story is usually good.

Maybe a new filter should be for developers. If most people could filter bad developers out, it would probably clear up the store and reveal some hidden gems.

Valve wouldn't give the ability to do that. It'd be a PR nightmare from developers/publishers(publicly or privately), and both the developers/publishers might see that as less money for them. There are plenty of companies that I'd like to blacklist off the store(Ubisoft being the biggest one, as I'm not dealing with uPlay) but I don't see it happening.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Grima The Fell Dragon の投稿を引用：

dynastystar の投稿を引用：

Yeah, I'm aware of the fact that filtering out tags doesn't work like that. When you click a particular tag, it kinda follows the algorithm of searching for the game, which I'm happy that even if you've filtered out a product, you CAN still find it. The only browsing of the Store Page I do is checking the "anime" tag, and checking the "recommended" section.

I mostly but anime based games as well. I'll occasionally poke my head out to see if other games look good, see a sea of junk games that are for a slightly insulting reason called casual, and go whelp back to anime games.

At least in anime, as long as the characters don't look godawful the gameplay and story is usually good.

Maybe a new filter should be for developers. If most people could filter bad developers out, it would probably clear up the store and reveal some hidden gems.

The "Anime" tag is itself quickly becoming overly broad. Just checking my store frontpage a little while ago I saw both Planetarian HD (actually reputable visual novel and anime series) and Deep Space Waifu (some sort of fanservicey thing that I have little interest in, and apparently has some sort of gameplay to it?), and the reason it came up top is because I've been playing 100% Orange Juice (a multiplayer virtual board game), Momodora III (a 2D platformer), and eXceed 3rd (a shmup).

I can get that someone out there might be interested in all of these games for their art style but I don't think there are that many such people, given just how different these games are.

If Steam should continue to use automated recommendations, they should at least let us tell it what tags we want, what tags we don't want (playing TF2 a lot makes it think I love FPSes which I don't), and what tags we don't care about either way.

[Start_Running]

Grima The Fell Dragon の投稿を引用：

Ocsabat の投稿を引用：

It would be really nice if Steam had a properly configured text based search that allows you the choice of searching by user generated tags or by searching Store page text.

If Steam had that, I couldn't care less about what shows up on the store page. I just want a search engine that allows me more flexibility in refining search results.

That would be nice to be able to refine the results with to only show mostly positive and up games.

Ooh, that reminds me of something that's always bothered me. There's no way to look for games that will run on your graphics card.
Yeah, I know I probably need to get a new laptop with a better graphics card than Intel HD. But most of the games on here mostly talk about high end cards and give no equivalent to know what the benchmark is. There's got to be a way to make an add on that you can have to check a game while on the store page to see if it'll at the minimum.

THat's why you look up the spec comparissons on sites that benchmark gfx cards.

[dynastystar]

Quint the PSY Duck の投稿を引用：

Grima The Fell Dragon の投稿を引用：

I mostly but anime based games as well. I'll occasionally poke my head out to see if other games look good, see a sea of junk games that are for a slightly insulting reason called casual, and go whelp back to anime games.

At least in anime, as long as the characters don't look godawful the gameplay and story is usually good.

Maybe a new filter should be for developers. If most people could filter bad developers out, it would probably clear up the store and reveal some hidden gems.

The "Anime" tag is itself quickly becoming overly broad. Just checking my store frontpage a little while ago I saw both Planetarian HD (actually reputable visual novel and anime series) and Deep Space Waifu (some sort of fanservicey thing that I have little interest in, and apparently has some sort of gameplay to it?), and the reason it came up top is because I've been playing 100% Orange Juice (a multiplayer virtual board game), Momodora III (a 2D platformer), and eXceed 3rd (a shmup).

I can get that someone out there might be interested in all of these games for their art style but I don't think there are that many such people, given just how different these games are.

If Steam should continue to use automated recommendations, they should at least let us tell it what tags we want, what tags we don't want (playing TF2 a lot makes it think I love FPSes which I don't), and what tags we don't care about either way.

I personally think Deep Space Waifu deserves the "anime" tag, when it comes to the "anime" tag, I'm mainly looking for aesthetic, and possibly country of origin.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

dynastystar の投稿を引用：

Quint the PSY Duck の投稿を引用：

The "Anime" tag is itself quickly becoming overly broad. Just checking my store frontpage a little while ago I saw both Planetarian HD (actually reputable visual novel and anime series) and Deep Space Waifu (some sort of fanservicey thing that I have little interest in, and apparently has some sort of gameplay to it?), and the reason it came up top is because I've been playing 100% Orange Juice (a multiplayer virtual board game), Momodora III (a 2D platformer), and eXceed 3rd (a shmup).

I can get that someone out there might be interested in all of these games for their art style but I don't think there are that many such people, given just how different these games are.

If Steam should continue to use automated recommendations, they should at least let us tell it what tags we want, what tags we don't want (playing TF2 a lot makes it think I love FPSes which I don't), and what tags we don't care about either way.

I personally think Deep Space Waifu deserves the "anime" tag, when it comes to the "anime" tag, I'm mainly looking for aesthetic, and possibly country of origin.

I wasn't saying that the tag was inapplicable; I was saying the tag is overly broad, like "Action", "Adventure", "Casual", and "Indie" are.

It's clearly applicable, the same way the others are, but it's just not as useful.

As for country of origin, I hope there were a way to sort by that but that info isn't actually available, which is why I helped some friends make this curator, whose intention is to simply list all the Japanese indie (i.e. "doujin") games on Steam. (Disclosure: I am an admin and founding member there.)

[dynastystar]

Quint the PSY Duck の投稿を引用：

dynastystar の投稿を引用：

I personally think Deep Space Waifu deserves the "anime" tag, when it comes to the "anime" tag, I'm mainly looking for aesthetic, and possibly country of origin.

I wasn't saying that the tag was inapplicable; I was saying the tag is overly broad, like "Action", "Adventure", "Casual", and "Indie" are.

It's clearly applicable, the same way the others are, but it's just not as useful.

As for country of origin, I hope there were a way to sort by that but that info isn't actually available, which is why I helped some friends make this curator, whose intention is to simply list all the Japanese indie (i.e. "doujin") games on Steam. (Disclosure: I am an admin and founding member there.)

naw, the "anime" tag isn't QUITE on that level, since I find it hard to NOT find a product on Steam with at least one of those tags. at least with "anime" it generally has to at least LOOK a certain way.
Edit: Also, I'm already following that curator.