Improving achievement stats system

[Pew-Pew]

There are plenty of games in Steam, which have unoptainable achievements. For example War of the Roses now out of steam shop and it's servers shut down, which left no chanse to complete all achievements for those who already played this game.

Primal Carnage have some buged achievements, it's still in Steam shop (http://store.steampowered.com/app/215470) but it's not supported anymore by developers (because company is not exist anymore).

There's also some games which have seasonal achievements you cant obtain anymore. Like CS:Source (only for winter 2011), Red Orchestra 2 (for those who played before wipe) and Pillars of Eternity (for backers on kickstarter).

All this decreases acheivement stats for those who started playing this games.

My suggestion is to let clear stats for certain games. Or exclude achievements from game after refund.

[Pepsiman]

Funny no one replied; I totally agree with you, there should be an option to make a coment or a vídeo or something in a specific achivement you just earned, and the ability to delete it manually, there are so many sugestions but yeah, valve is kinda lazy right now

[Pew-Pew]

Well, i've been chatting with Steam support and they suggested to write my suggestion here, mentioning that Steam team watch topics here.

[JPMcMillen]

Since achievements don't have any real meaning officially (i.e. gamer score), Steam isn't going to do anything about achievements that can't be earned for whatever reason (bugged, no MP, special event). Any issues with any achievements are something that must be taken up with the developer of that particular game.

[HEART]

Originally posted by Pew-pew:

Well, i've been chatting with Steam support and they suggested to write my suggestion here, mentioning that Steam team watch topics here.

In other words, they blew you off...

[Pew-Pew]

Originally posted by JPMcMillen:

Any issues with any achievements are something that must be taken up with the developer of that particular game.

But what if developer is't supporting game anymore or not exist enymore?

[HEART]

Originally posted by Pew-pew:

Originally posted by JPMcMillen:

Any issues with any achievements are something that must be taken up with the developer of that particular game.

But what if developer is't supporting game anymore or not exist enymore?

Then you're screwed. Achievement are 100% developer based, not Valve/Steam based.

[Pew-Pew]

Well, since it's a part of Steam social service, they probably interested it work properly.

[JPMcMillen]

Originally posted by SilverSun Moon 0430:

Originally posted by Pew-pew:

Well, i've been chatting with Steam support and they suggested to write my suggestion here, mentioning that Steam team watch topics here.

In other words, they blew you off...

You wouldn't be the first either. Steam support tells people to post their suggestions here because they know the community will explain why that suggestion isn't going to happen. Hang around this forum enough and you'll see that it's a not-so-secret trick that they use to handle dead-on-arival suggestions.

[JPMcMillen]

Originally posted by Pew-pew:

Well, since it's a part of Steam social service, they probably interested it work properly.

It's not. It's a feature that devs may or may not chose to impliment in their games. All Steam does is allow in game achievements to be tracked outside the game itself.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Pew-pew:

Well, since it's a part of Steam social service, they probably interested it work properly.

on steams end it does.

it is up to the developer to make the achievements work correctly. valve cant fix the coding on a game when they dont have the permission to.

[Asuryan]

True, it's up to the developer to make the achievements work correctly, but it *should* be up to the Steam staff to check that the developer is really making all achievements ... achievable.
Sometimes there are achievements that are there, but are totally unachievable by design (I'm thinking about Hate Plus and the infamous "Materia" achievement, that the developer put without any way for people to achieve it, making it impossible for people to 100% the game, as "a joke") and when that happens, I honestly feel cheated. Yeah, yeah, call it OCD if you want, but if the game has achievements and this is announced in the Steam shop page, I do expect those to be achievable

[JPMcMillen]

Originally posted by Asuryan:

True, it's up to the developer to make the achievements work correctly, but it *should* be up to the Steam staff to check that the developer is really making all achievements ... achievable.
Sometimes there are achievements that are there, but are totally unachievable by design (I'm thinking about Hate Plus and the infamous "Materia" achievement, that the developer put without any way for people to achieve it, making it impossible for people to 100% the game, as "a joke") and when that happens, I honestly feel cheated. Yeah, yeah, call it OCD if you want, but if the game has achievements and this is announced in the Steam shop page, I do expect those to be achievable :trazz:

I'm pretty sure Steam would rather scrap the entire achievement system that ever try to police every game to make sure they work properely. That's too much work and resources spent for next to nothing in return.

[Pew-Pew]

But leting players reset their game stats (including achivements) will resolve this problem.

[Exiled Alchemist]

Originally posted by Pew-pew:

But leting players reset their game stats (including achivements) will resolve this problem.

That would only allow massive levels of complaints from people that share a computer with someone. You would see tons of post saying "My brother reset my stats, I want them back.", or the ever famous "My friend was on my computer, and he deleted everything as a joke." Those same messages would also flood Steam support making it even hardder for them to filter out, and help people that have real problems.

[Pew-Pew]

Well, we already have steam store conformation via mobile app, why don't implemnt it in that case as well?