games with 30FPS lock??? please make reporting FPS locks mandatory on steam store pages

[saaya]

ive bought several games now that come with an FPS lock
if it would be 60fps i might even be ok with it, but theyre all locked to 30fps... thats really too much... its a stutter nightmare...

Microsoft and Sony finally get it and promote 60FPS on their latest 500$ consoles.
And here i am on steam on a 2000$ gaming PC and im locked to 30FPS?
thats just wrong...

30 FPS locks need to die, the least steam should do is WARN us about games that are locked to 30fps.
please?

WARNING this game is locked to 30FPS
WARNING this game is locked to 60FPS
WARNING VSYNC cant be disabled on this game

[HeadWound]

Originally posted by Gusto:

dfg

RMF!

The refund system works, 'Not advertised as fixed at 30fps' is a valid reason, for me.

Of course if you still want to play the game you could try cranking up the DSR and smoothing if you have the options to.

Personally I just avoid the ones that don't have patches, hacks or mods to allow at least 60fps (a lot do).

[Zukabazuka]

http://store.steampowered.com/curator/9393382-The-Framerate-Police/

There used to be a tag for games where you could state 30fps lock but that one was removed. So currently that curator group is the closest you can get right now if a game has fps lock or not. The group also updates games if they change the fps lock.

[Avalanch07]

Originally posted by 󠀠:

So much for "Tag Anything, Your Way". The TAG was a lie!

Uh no, there was never a "tag anything your way". The purpose was to add descriptive tags to the games, not for users to abuse it and add whatever tf they wanted to.

[Gus the Crocodile]

Originally posted by Final Kaoss:

Uh no, there was never a "tag anything your way".

First subsection header on the "introducing Steam tags" page: http://store.steampowered.com/tag/

Don't get me wrong, I think the "framerate police" are petty children with bad ideas about games, but regardless, describing a game as being capped to 30fps is, literally, descriptive.

[Zefar]

Originally posted by Gus the Crocodile:

Originally posted by Final Kaoss:

Uh no, there was never a "tag anything your way".

First subsection header on the "introducing Steam tags" page: http://store.steampowered.com/tag/

Don't get me wrong, I think the "framerate police" are petty children with bad ideas about games, but regardless, describing a game as being capped to 30fps is, literally, descriptive.

Exactly how is the Framerate police petty children?
All the group does is state if the game has a 30 FPS lock and what type of game it is. If there is a fix to unlock the FPS it will link to it. Also if a game has released a patch to solve the issue it's removed from the list.

There are people who just do not like 30 FPS games when they have played on 60 and higher for well over a decade.

[Ganger]

Originally posted by Zefar:

There are people who just do not like 30 FPS games when they have played on 60 and higher for well over a decade.

Im one of them people, I won't touch 30fps games. I will even knock down my graphics to lowest setting to maintain a soild 60fps with vsync.

But I will entertain games were you can unlock the 30fps lock via config file or something. I believe 'Alice' was one such game were you could change config file text to 60 from 30.

[saaya]

Originally posted by HeadWound:

Originally posted by Gusto:

dfg

RMF!

The refund system works, 'Not advertised as fixed at 30fps' is a valid reason, for me.

Of course if you still want to play the game you could try cranking up the DSR and smoothing if you have the options to.

Personally I just avoid the ones that don't have patches, hacks or mods to allow at least 60fps (a lot do).

yeah but refunding is a hassle...
i dont buy a single game at a time usually, thats the issue with the current refund system, if i then want a refund i lose all the games i bought at the time, and have to buy them again... and there is a limit on how many refunds per time you can get or something, right?

i dont want to waste 20-30 mins for each game like this
it takes that long to buy, download, play, realize there is a 30fps lock, realize there is no hack or setting to change it, and then refund... such a waste of time...
a label in the store would be way better, next to KB/mouse support, gamepad support, VR support etc... dont you think?

[saaya]

Originally posted by Zukabazuka:

http://store.steampowered.com/curator/9393382-The-Framerate-Police/

There used to be a tag for games where you could state 30fps lock but that one was removed. So currently that curator group is the closest you can get right now if a game has fps lock or not. The group also updates games if they change the fps lock.

thanks! subscribed!
but this still wont inform me when i see a game and want to buy it on the store right?
i have to actually go back to the group and search for each game title to make sure its not 30fps?

i dont get it... 30fps essentially means the game is broken.
why do we have to do extra work to make sure a game we buy actually works properly and isnt broken? >_>

[saaya]

Originally posted by 󠀠:

Originally posted by Zukabazuka:

There used to be a tag for games where you could state 30fps lock but that one was removed.

So much for "Tag Anything, Your Way". The TAG was a lie!

There is also a nice Denuvo group, since some don't disclose the same on Store Pages.
For those that don't like it or just want to be informed customers.

lots of good info on http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Home for games including framerates and or DRM schemes.

i guess TAGs only work if the majority of people add the tag, and i think almost nobody adds tags so...

awesome game wiki page, thanks!!!
such graphs! much info! how master!

[saaya]

Originally posted by Zefar:

There are people who just do not like 30 FPS games when they have played on 60 and higher for well over a decade.

not just that, it depends on the game too...
im fine with an RTS being locked to 30, i dont like it, but its tolerable...
but any first person game (and even third person game depending on the FOV) with a 30fps lock is just awful...

[saaya]

Originally posted by Ganger:

Originally posted by Zefar:

There are people who just do not like 30 FPS games when they have played on 60 and higher for well over a decade.

Im one of them people, I won't touch 30fps games. I will even knock down my graphics to lowest setting to maintain a soild 60fps with vsync.

But I will entertain games were you can unlock the 30fps lock via config file or something. I believe 'Alice' was one such game were you could change config file text to 60 from 30.

vsync gives you pretty bad input lag though... and adds stutter depending on how well the game does it and how well the driver does it...
depends on the game, but i try to avoid vsync
try gsync, same effect as vsync but it only adds a tiny input lag

alice, oh yeah... i remember modifying that one for more than 30fps...
it was based on the Q3 engine wasnt it? so that was pretty easy...

[Zukabazuka]

Originally posted by saaya:

Originally posted by 󠀠:

So much for "Tag Anything, Your Way". The TAG was a lie!

There is also a nice Denuvo group, since some don't disclose the same on Store Pages.
For those that don't like it or just want to be informed customers.

lots of good info on http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Home for games including framerates and or DRM schemes.

i guess TAGs only work if the majority of people add the tag, and i think almost nobody adds tags so...

awesome game wiki page, thanks!!!
such graphs! much info! how master!

It was added by people, Valve removed it. Made it so you can't add it.

[saaya]

Originally posted by Zukabazuka:

Originally posted by saaya:

i guess TAGs only work if the majority of people add the tag, and i think almost nobody adds tags so...

awesome game wiki page, thanks!!!
such graphs! much info! how master!

It was added by people, Valve removed it. Made it so you can't add it.

really? so adds the tags now? 0_o

[76561198001062896]

I like to call this the Totalbiscuit syndrome because as much as I have nothing but mad respect for John Bain, this "everything gotta be 60 fps" is a bit silly.

Heres the thing: games should be runnimg as smooth as possible, esp if said user reaches the suggested system requirements. There is little to no point capping all games at said framerate however because in some it wouldnt make a significant difference imho


Not denying that such tags should exist but you get my point.

[Zefar]

Originally posted by saaya:

vsync gives you pretty bad input lag though... and adds stutter depending on how well the game does it and how well the driver does it...
depends on the game, but i try to avoid vsync
try gsync, same effect as vsync but it only adds a tiny input lag

alice, oh yeah... i remember modifying that one for more than 30fps...
it was based on the Q3 engine wasnt it? so that was pretty easy...

Vsync doesn't cause all of those issues you claim all the time. There are SOME games that have done something that causes Vsync to cause issues. But most of the time it does none of those things.
The games I remember doing this was Dead Space 1, Rage and Fallout 3 or 4 in the menus.
But in a lot of games Vsync just removes Screen tearing and stops at 60 FPS