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Steam does care about their customers, they're trying to keep me happy and when I see threads like this it makes me cringe.
I've been a PC gamer for 25 years and Steam is the best compromise for DRM I think we can have. Separate accounts for family members and having to purchase two copies of a game to play at the same time is the way it should be.
The alternative is we bring back all the nightmarish DRM methods that developers are just now understanding that we won't tolerate. If you're complaining about the few minutes it takes to change Steam accounts then you've never experienced activation limits and always online DRM that will prevent you from playing games that you've purchased, SecureRom, Tages and all the other third party DRM that in worst case scenarios can screw up your OS or brick your hardware.
We don't want games that require us to log into an account with the developer to be able to play because guess what happens......you'll get an email from them telling you they have been hacked and have lost all your personal information. This has happened with Sony, Trion in the last year or so and Ubisoft just a few weeks ago.
So be careful what you ask for because you just might get it.
Well actually, there are games on Steam that use these IN ADDITION to Steamworks DRM.
Some even have more than two layers of DRM, e.g. Bioshock 2 has Securom, Games For Windows Live, and Steam. IMHO there's just no good reason for this at all. I refuse to support such products.
You accepted TOS right? Sharing account and games isn't allowed.
Like others have said you can put one in offline mode and play online with the other. Its hard to find actual box games anymore and half the time when you do they just have a steam code inside them. You could also have another account for your daughter that has all of her kid games. not only would it solve the problem of 2 accounts but it would also avoid her accidentaly clicking on a game she shouldnt have... like say killing floor.
Consoles are great for families. You can buy one copy, and all members of the household can play that game. Even better, you can spend $300 for an entire collection of titles, and split them between two consoles anyway you like. Better yet, older consoles had split-screen multiplayer! It's why my brothers and I chose the N64, 4-player split screen.
With DVD's you can split your DVD collection between any number of TV's/DVD players within the household, at any time.
Steam's TOS was fine for those who didn't have families, or family games on their Steam account. That was fine back when there was only one PC in the household, or all gamers were working adults.
Children complicate matters. Spouses complicate it as well, given the "what's mine is yours" aspect where you share everything and pool your resources.
Children are not adults, they can't pay their way, and they make greater use of the games available. Multiple accounts require account management, and buying each child their own gaming computer, otherwise rotating between accounts is an aggravation.
That is $700 per child, plus games. Otherwise your better off shopping a Good Old Games, or just getting a console.
Point is, the TOS will limit Steam to a niche market, when they could expand beyond it. That console they were working on could help, or just cheaper games, with minimal system requirements. Windows 8 actually works better than Steam, aside from the Outlook account for minors,... Just login to any PC, and get your apps on your desktop.
About that .... why did you bump this old thread? You had to go back awhile to find one to bump? Then must not be much of an issue.
Pretty dumb that people think logging into the same account at the same time should be ok. You bought one copy of the game, not 2.
I didn't necro the thread, it was done well before my first post.
My mistake. It was sjord.
So if I understand this correctly.....
You can't afford to be a family of PC gamers so you want the gaming industry to lower prices, lower system requirements and allow multiple licenses so you don't have to purchase multiple copies of games.
Those of us with higher end systems and that have purchased 100's of PC titles are a niche market.
And you used Windows 8 and "works better" in the same sentence.
I don't even know where to start........
50 million + steam accounts is a "niche market". Steam is by far the largest game digital distribution system in the world, but it is a "niche" market. I guess gamers are a "niche" market then.
I read this guys story and it is obvious he has no idea how Steam operates because most of what he is saying he do with consoles you can also do with Steam. For one thing with a console if you buy a game disc you can put that disc into one console at a time. That is much worse then Steams system of letting you log into Steam on any PC you want, download and play the game, without a disc. They want the equivalent of 2 discs for the price of one.
Yes Steam and Consoles are the same in that only one person can play the SAME game at the same time, using the same account. The consoles do not tie accounts to discs though, and thus another game from the same LIBRARY can be played by another member in the same family. Consoles are cheaper than PCs, ergo, consoles are better for many families.
Console = $400-$600 in consoles + 1 set of games (say $1,000) = $1,600 for a family of 4.
-- Multiple XBox Live subscriptions may be added, to determine the value of a 360/One.
PC's = $1,400-$2,800 in PC's + duplicate games per user (say $1,000) = $3,400-$6,800 for a family of 4.
I don't want to play the same game on multiple PCs, just the same library. There is a difference.
Reports of 50 million active accounts. That surprises me. Steam is still such an unknown platform around these parts. Perhaps it is the difference in available bandwidth. It might be that in this region there is little to no overlap between X-Box 360 owners, and Steam users.
I get the Windows 8 joke, but I have also installed the Windows 8.1 preview on two seperate test systems. Seeing the second system duplicate my desktop from the first system, as soon as the install was complete, was nifty.
My point about the Facebook style games is that they are offered on the Windows Store, and thus don't require Steam. Also, that they are compatible with systems in the console price ranges of $300-$400. Furthermore, Windows 8.1's cloud saved Metro screen makes it simply to swap between Win8.1 PCs. Again, without having to install Steam.
You can buy hard copies of PC games and do exactly the same thing your doing with the console. Steam is a digital download format so you can't do it. You also can't do it with any console games you have downloaded ( XBLA, PSN and their On Demand games), they are tied to the account.
The Xbox One intended to make disc bound to a specific console/account. No more buying/selling used games, no more Gamefly, etc. The reaction from the gaming community when the news was announced forced Microsoft to change course. Sony announced they wouldn't do it after seeing the reaction Microsoft got but rumor was they were headed in the same direction.
Neither new system willl allow you to play previous games ( 360 and PS3 ) on the new console. They will release those games in digital format basically forcing you to re-buy games you already own on disk if you choose to play them on the new system.
Just as with music, digital format games is the direction we are headed. Good idea? Bad idea? It's easier to get my games but I'll also be much more picky in what I buy ( no more pre-orders ) when I know I can't take the stinker I just bought to EB games and trade it in to re-coup some of the money I just wasted on a bad game.
As far as the Facebook style games.....if those are the types of PC games your interested in then Steam probably isn't the place for you. We are seeing more tablet/phone ports here ( some good, most bad) but we aren't spending thousands of dollars on gaming rigs to play Farmville style games.
If your kids enjoy those types of game then a tablet may be even a better option than a console, Games are cheap ( lots are even free ) and tablets are cheaper than consoles plus no TV required.