Big Picture Mode - Controller Support

[ulix]

So on the page for Big Picture Mode there is a picture of a Logitech controller. I own one (Cordless Rumblepad 2), but it doesn't work.

I know it didn't work in the Beta, but why does it still not work in the public release?

[Satoru]

I don't think the cordless rumblepad2 is xinput compatilbe. Blame MS for dumping directInput and instead making everyone use xinput which made no sense.

However ther are workarounds for this

https://code.google.com/p/x360ce/

[ulix]

I know X360CE. I use it often.
Didn't work with the Big Picture Beta though. I'll try it now, but it probably won't work...

Valve could obviously just support Direct Input... at least for the Steam menu.

Edit: Nope, still doesn't work.

[Zomboh]

I always use X360CE with my lovely Saitek Cyborg Rumble pad... just found out it doesn't work with Steam as ulix stated. Weird thing is that there actually exists a "xinput1_3.dll" file in the Steam/bin dir. Hope this gets supported in the near future, I'd love using it.

[Satoru]

Escrito originalmente por ulix:

I know X360CE. I use it often.
Didn't work with the Big Picture Beta though. I'll try it now, but it probably won't work...

Valve could obviously just support Direct Input... at least for the Steam menu.

Edit: Nope, still doesn't work.

Valve supports DirectInput

GAMES don't which si the problem. All games pertty much use Xinput. Again blame MS for making an entirely parallel input API for ONE controller and dumping directinput as a standard.

[ulix]

Valve may support Direct Input in its games.
It DOES NOT support Direct Input in Big Picture mode. I've tried.
And I don't blame MS because there really is no reason to. Just dump a Direct Input dll in the Steam folder Valve, and let people reassign the buttons as they please, if you're to lazy to do it yourself.

[Satoru]

Escrito originalmente por ulix:

Valve may support Direct Input in its games.
It DOES NOT support Direct Input in Big Picture mode. I've tried.
And I don't blame MS because there really is no reason to. Just dump a Direct Input dll in the Steam folder Valve, and let people reassign the buttons as they please, if you're to lazy to do it yourself.

Again the problem is similar to the issue with the primary display problem. Games dont' support non xinput controllers, which means that if you say your games are 'controller enabled' then users will be confused why it works in BPM but not in the game. You're just deferring the problem which generates more confusion.

again MS decided to make xinput for no actual reason especially when evertyhign else about directx was about providing a consistent api input specifically so users wouldnt be eternally confused about everything.

[EXE]

Controller-related issues are why I always make sure to purchase 1st party controllers. Less headaches and setup, not to mention that many games display the Xbox 360 button icons when you use Microsoft's controller. So seemless.

[LegatoSkyheart]

The Pelican Afterglow Ps3 controller has very limited suppport with only the left joystick and face buttons (sqaure, x, triangle, o) working.
can I use the x360ce on big picture mode or will I be just wasting my time?

[Zomboh]

Escrito originalmente por LegatoSkyheart:

The Pelican Afterglow Ps3 controller has very limited suppport with only the left joystick and face buttons (sqaure, x, triangle, o) working.
can I use the x360ce on big picture mode or will I be just wasting my time?

X360ce depends on custom xinput dll files. Steam checks its bearings on startup and upon detecting a "xinput1_3.dll" different from his, will re-download that file, effectively disabling x360ce. Funnily, you'll have no problem using x360ce with the actual games. But it is a no-go with big picture itself. I doubt this will ever get fixed since it depends on a .dll.

[Nyimph]

I also had Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2 with Vibration Feedback (Black) but it didn't work with right analog stick, buttons, and triggers and it sucks so bad. I wish steam would have notified which controllers are compatible.

[Avaray]

BUMP. Valve, please give Us possibility to use x360ce