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That entire wall of text is because of this. Why should teh entire world bend to your whim because you refuse to use online payments for 'personal reasons'
Your friend in Germany could gift you the games, no problem. What you arrange in terms of funding outside of Steam should remain outside and done at your own risk. Keep in mind though that some German versions are unique in that they censor certain titles.
Thank you for your reply and you are 200 percent correct in your reasoning that that is/was the reason for posting this wall of text, however ... I do not expext for anyone to bend to my whim in any way, not now and not ever.
My question was and still is how I could purchase the games I would like to have in my country without using online payments whatsoever. Nothing more, nothing less.
The wall of text is because, from experience and I am a C++ developer myself, the better a problem is explained the more accurate and precise the answer 'could' be and will be.
I have been looking for a solution for more then a few months now and finally decided to pop the question here, where I should have asked a few months ago to begin with.
With all due respect, please refrain from further answering if it is only to state the obvious or just repaeat what I already said.
Also, if I were willing to explain my personal reasons, I would have done so, it would have been just a few lines more. ;)
Canti,
I am aware of paypall but that also requires me to link my bank account to an online service before I can use any money deposited in it, not going to happen.
Right German censorship ... I am aware of that but forgot about it for a minute. Thank you for reminding me. I will have to ask him about the rules on the mentioned games before going that way then. at least that opens a window of opertunity. ;)
Thank you for your useful reply.
Hmmm, That opens another question, If I were to go via a french, dutch, or other friend with a nationality where these sensorship rules do not apply, will he still have problems, with sensored titles, if I give him is beloved HL2 or orange box?
Yes I do have many friend all over the world that I could/would trust to send money to before they make the orders. I'd have to pay extra fees but that is another sacrifice I am willing to make, even if I would be paying double the amount of money reuired because of that ;)
On the topic of Paypal, you don't need to hook it up to your bank account in order to use it. You can use credit or debit cards, people can send you money and then you can spend it in places that accept it, or you can even add funds to the account by check supposedly. And because they pay on your behalf, the people you buy stuff from never see any of your financial details and if your Steam account is hacked your card details won't be at risk.
I'm sure you're set in this already but, just thought I'd throw that out there ;).
It is my choice to not have the benefits that come with it, wether my reasons are valid or not is not even on debate here. Maybe try re-reading that line you quoted untill the end?
For the last time ... your replies do not help me any futher at all as they reveal nada that I did not know allready. :(
I will simply ignore your posts if you continue like this, just so you know.
Canti,
The last time I checked paypall, it is indeed possible to open an account and receive money in it, up to 100 euro's, however before I can spend a single dime I gave to give them the number of my account to see if I really am wo I say I am and not some terrorist looking for funds.
These are new-ish laws made after 9/11 and the funding of the actions that occured that day ... I am very sorry to bring up this, for some more than others, painful issue up again and here but that was the reason to implement these laws.
I will check again to make sure but I am pretty sure that the texts I read were very clear on this.
About that sensoring of games ... I will check what exactly is sensored and who knows maybe I can live with what remains available. ;)
The other german friend that does online payments does have Orange Box and Garry's while living in Germany.
Thank you very much for your help.
I have some options now.
I do hope someone from Valve itself can provide me a (luxembourgois) IBAN acount number where I can transfer via that postal order (or even wiring directly from my bank) into my steam account.
Read: I do not mind sending money from my bank account to online services but simply do not want said services to be linked to it in in any way at all ... I am paying not receiving as with paypall when buying games.
Also It is not eg. Steam or other services I do not trust it is the things that can go wrong with any personal info available online. ;)
Just like Paypall does not trust me for as long as they can not send me a few cents and verify that I am not a terrorist.
And yes mind made up. ;)
Delph,
Only the USA ... I really do hope you are wrong ... not biting any bullets.
I'd rather go to Game Mania here and ask them to order me boxed versions, even if it takes weeks for it to arrive and will cost me a bit more, I will then have to spent some additional money on stamps to get the one of them from Belgium to Germany. Another sacrifice I am willing to make.
I would even open my friend box and mail him his codes so that he does not have to even wait longer to start playing.
Thank you for your reply also, much apreciated
As for anything else, Valve will not accept any other payment method than those listed because the Steam system itself is entirely automated, the time the spent assisting individuals in this way is worth more than the purchases they are likely to make.
Also I will have a look what the censoring is about with the german versions of games, like I said maybe I can live with it.
Thank you for your time peeps.
Also to whoever moved this topic in the correct place ... thank you for doing so, I was not sure where to post this. ;)
I know you Valve peeps like thinking outside of the box, I am a person that rather rips apart the box and turns it a different kind of box ... while only adding value to that box, not getting rid of what was inside to begin with.
Here goes another wall of text to deter people replying that have nothing to add to the conversation (Me too I have better things to do then reply to them; I could be playing right now):
Steam is an automated service, good and let's just keep it that way.
I also prefer peeps having a massage while thinking on the next great ting to do, instead of doing the boring task of transfering money into people's account.
I agree it would a waste of resources, who cares about the money it costs ... Valve is big enough and would be able to do that.
I do all kinds of payments which are processed autmatically and are not linked to my bank account in ways I do not want it to be linked neither.
How ... buy adding a reference to my payments towards you/them (or anyone else for that matter).
For example I send money to my ISP each month manually but I can hardly imagine someone sitting there and waiting for my transaction to pop up on his screen and link it to my client account.
Water, gas, electricity, shool bills, etc, etc, whatever kind of bill falls in my mailbox the accompanying letter always mentions 'please us this +++123/146/789+++ for every transaction you make towards us'. Often, if not always, the transaction note (overschrijving in dutch but I don't feel like googling right now for the translation(*)) already has this reference filled out for me so so I do not have to look it up each and every time I need it.
Same for my rent, although that is only from me to my landlord and he has only four houses ... I will still add 'Rent April 2013' in that box, even if it is not needed, before I click the button to make the payment go through. Why? So that I have proof of what for I sent him my money in case I need to prove that I paid at all or in case something goes wrong, eg. me typing the wrong bank account nr. and my landlord not receiving my money; this will ofcourse not rectify my mistake towards him, nor will it get me my money back (the person actually having received it has to give it back to me voluntarily; it is my mistake and not my banks so they are not obliged to intervene and will not do so neither) but at least I can show my landlord that I made the effort and will give me a chance to rectify the situation instead of throwing me in the street which he could do if it happens a few times in a row (me not having noticed; he maybe thinking I have cashfllow problems, again, and assuming I will pay double next month or triple the month after that; it has happened before and it will happen again <- again personal reasons I am not willing to elaborate on).
So yeah, in short, give each and every client of yours a reference nr and let any payments made using that be automatically processed by and old 486 I am sure is still lingering somewhere in your basement.
(*) My time is as valuable as everyone of you and during the time it took me to write in this thread, I would habve bought 2 orange boxes, 1 garry's mod, and maybe a few other games I would like to have. so would have a couple of thousend others who feel just like me.
ps:
If anyone is wondering why I write so many errors,... pls tell me how to make desktop sreenshot in WinXP.
I have another issue this time with the box where I am typing this text in and can not be bothered to re-read because my eyes are bleeding. No I am not 12, nor am I illeterate but I have not used windows for anything other than things that do not run on linux for the last five years. Trust me beside a few games there is absolutely nothing that keeps me tied to windows, in fact steam on linux has recently taken another reason to use it way, for which I thank you. Hmm no wait, It has not... my account I created in 2010 ... linux and that is also where I played and finished ep1 and 2 at that time.
I am willing to explain but I am not going to spend time searching for something I do not care about all that much and will most likely never use anywayand I am really not going to reboot just to take a screenshot. ;)
pps:
I just saw something that will end you misery of having to read my walls of text.
MY FRIEND HAS HL2 AND I DO NOT YET ... me very very very sad once more; for me not for him, I have not yet spoken to him to ask how he did it.
I already spent way to much time in this thread ... so instead of continuing to search for a solution I will just give my friend the money to buy the orange box or whatever he wants.
Me??
Not spending another dime on anything anymore untill I can buy games again, boxed and that do not need online registration/payments whatsoever.
ppps:
if someone thinks that I am cheap or difficult feel free to do so,
I am getting ready to go to the bank donating to three things that are very closely related.
One of my favorite games that is opensource and free of charge BTW ...
I only hinted to have their BANK ACCOUNT NRs once and you know what, despite them having paypall available, yes that is easier for them, I got the nrs I needed within 5 minutes.
Once moe dissapointed now, please make me feel better steam, please, please, please, pretty please.
pppps: I am still willing to explain my issue I have with re-reading the box while typing this post but meh ...
There are countries where people genuinely don't have most of these payment options at all. If they were going to add any new methods, they would do so for these groups of people, not for one individual who is being awkward :P
I want to buy games and give people money to make more games ... lots of more games.
I can not.
Also like I said, if someone tells me how to make tha screenshot I will happily explain my bleeding eyes problem, in a non frustredted way because part of the problem is on my side;)
I just went to check exactly which payment methods they accept and I saw Paysafecard on there. Why not use that? It's just a pre-paid card you buy from supermarkets.
Please also tell what supermakets sell them here in Belgium the netherland and or france.
Belgium is 300 km long an 60 wide at the shore.
I am willing to take my bike and drive in a radius of 150km from my house to get me one of those.
I am not willing to do what I already mentioned