Steam client! net limiter

[Blim }[]{LINUX}[]{]

The steam limiter needs to be turned off. I know steam uses it to slow down our downloads but its causing problems with my computers connection and provents me from doing anything.

How do I know this, because when I start up a steam game then flick back to windows and restart the downloads the packet loss and latency spikes stop and my download goes at full speed again.


EDIT: Be it what even it is, if a enthusiast like myself can work it out or not. This problem only happens when I use steam and with this account but only this account. I'm no rocket science but logic is logic.

Oh yeah sorry, I forgot to add. I also found the registry key.

[Blim }[]{LINUX}[]{]

I'm sure game developers would love to know how the steam client makes customers computers unstable and also provents customers from getting online due to its instability and it's inability to sustain a connection without being problematic. Or how running steam can render the customers computer useless when certain function are in use.

Yes I'm sure that will be a great selling point.

Bump

[Ineffable Anathema]

Bumping is against the forum rules, why so hostile?

[Ineffable Anathema]

There's no one here who *can* help you with this, you would have to send in a ticket to support to discuss it with them. We're all just regular users, mods and a few odd developers here on the forums. There's no need to be hostile to anyone here.

[Satoru]

Note that 'correlation' isnt 'causation'

A client net limiter has no possible way of actually screwing up your router. Sounds more like your rig is scrweed up.

[Blim }[]{LINUX}[]{]

So I set the limiter to 1mb and start a download and it has the same affect.

You are right, steam doesnt affect my router as my server isnt seeing the last problems.

I have had a ticket open for over a week about this. In that time I've gone from having no idea to knowing that its got something to do with steam and the speed my games download at. By loading a game while download stops the problem and also the choppy download hits full speed (8.6mb/s).

Great if it's my router thats not a problem, its new and can be replaced but I just dont think its that. Nor my networkcard as I've changed that. I dont believe its my isp but I've told them about the problem and if they find anything they will get back to me. My fttc connection is at full speed with no interleaving on. New RT-N56U router with latest firmware.

[Blim }[]{LINUX}[]{]

Remove the net limiter = packet loss

I would suggest removing the limiter or stop enforcing it on people who are unaware.

Maybe you only do it to some of us with a fast connection but anyone with the knowledge will tell you why thats such a bad idea to limit a download from the receiving end.

This is just a heads up, the right people whom it might concern might not be so soft.

A application can not alter the functionality of a customers computer with the customer unaware.

That sed I would like you to remove it from my client sorfware. You do not have the rights to alter my computer or affect the way my hardware functions outside of steams original purpose.

Thanks.

[aiusepsi]

Anybody with knowledge will tell you that you're wrong, and seem to be fundamentally misunderstanding what's going on.

A download limiter doesn't do anything to your machine. It's just going to do one or both of two things, throttle the rate that the download is requested from the other side, and only accept data in from the network stack at the correct rate, which will probably trigger back off behaviour in the TCP algorithm. That's all entirely normal stuff, and it all operates at the application level only.

Also, the download limiter in the Steam client is an option only, for people who don't want Steam to saturate their connection.

[Satoru]

Since this is waht the third or fourth one you've made on this, haven't you realized that your computer is the prboelm here, especialyl given that you're having multiple utterly different networking issues

[Blim }[]{LINUX}[]{]

I'm not wrong but I dont have the full knowledge to explain why, on the other hand I do know a person who can. Will post back later so not to mislead anyone.

[Satoru]

You might want to stop taking advice from that person since, they really don't have any idea what they're talking about.

[Blim }[]{LINUX}[]{]

ok now your just being augmentativ. Your not even being constructive, I'm sure this is against forum rules under trolling.

The person in question is a professional, he/she works for a ISP that has some of the leading technology in the world for QoS and traffic management.

[Satoru]

The net limiter doesn tdo anything spectacularly weird. It's just like any other software net limiter. No application actually has access to the IP stack itself to cause that kind of issue like packet loss.

If it's causing packet loss on your computer, it's your computer that's the problem, not the net limiter. Especially given that you're having all sorts of OTHER network problems. And also given that fact that you're the ONLY person to report this incredibly esoteric problem with the net limiter, despite the fact that lots of people currently use it.

Also you might want to look up trolling. Since you do not have a firm grasp as to what the term actually means or how it should be applied.

[Blim }[]{LINUX}[]{]

One day I'll find a person to have a constructive and sensible conversation on these forums.

[Satoru]

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One day I'll find a person to have a constructive and sensible conversation on these forums.

How odd since myself and other have calmly tried to explain to you why your issues are more likely an issue iwth you computer rather than steam itself. Because said issues make no sense to be caused by the steam client. All people have done is to clarify that your assumptions are incorrect because you have an incorrect view on how your problem is manifesting itself.

If you're going to IGNORE the advice when people tell you things, that's your issue.

Unless your friend has some kind of application dump on how the steam netlimiter is causing your incredibly esoteric problem. The problem, is again, more likely with your system, not steam.

[Ineffable Anathema]

OP, you are being unecessarily hostile and borderline abusive to those attempting to assist you. How is it that you assume you will obtain any help for your problem given this behavior? It seems you do not actually want to hear the truth of the matter, only what *you* consider to be an acceptable response, therefore your post is fairly pointless. No one is going to, or has the ability to give you what you're fishing for here.